The_Amrien

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I think we are all in for a surprise when PvP is implemented.

"Oh what did you say tanker?"

*short circuit*

"Uh oh! No more toggles? Muhahahahahaha."

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I've already discussed PvP, and I can promise you, it'll be a laughable matter for an eletric blaster to get into the melee range to use Short Circuit. (even with fly, as players will actually jump to perform attacks)

Alright, I begin by apologizing for sounding so condescending. I think that might have prompted your response to be a little more... vindictive than you likely intended.

I'd like to respond to each statement individually,

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States, I hate to be rude, but if you seriously think that an electric blaster's drain can be helpful againest an AV, you obviously have never played one.


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Let's not put words in my mouth here...a SINGLE electric blaster DOES drain endurance from an AV. BUT definitely not enough to make an impact. All secondary effects against AV's are resisted...it takes several electric blasters to make an appreciable dent in an AV (just like it takes many heroes to bring one down).

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I think we both have put words in each others mouths, and unless we're eating alphabet soup, that's a bad thing.

If I may quote you, you said that Electric's endurance drain was "Outstanding". I mearly said it wasn't "Helpful", and neither of us indicated wether it was in a group setting, and apparently, neither of us meant solo.

I too did not mean that an individual electric blaster should be able to drain an Archvillain, such is simply ludicrous, and would make the Electric blaster possibly the most powerful thing in the game, I meant only by my statement that, even in groups full of end drainers (kinetic, electric, and lots of both) I have never seen the bar of any Archvillain ever pass below around 600. The only event in which I could see there being enough drainers in a single archvillain battle to possible make a difference would be againest the hamidon, and I have a sneaking suspicion that he's not gonna be drained any time soon.

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#1 End drain only works if they're fully drained, partial, it's a no go.


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Ooops. That's not true. Some AV powers require an amount of Endurance - so that if the AV doesn't have it - he can't use it. So bringing one down to 0 isn't exactly necessary to have an impact.

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I'd like to begin this by saying I'm not sure of what exactly the cost of Archvillain powers are, but unless they are significantly higher than those of heroes and lesser villains, I can never see an instance of an archvillain draining themselves of 800 endurance to a point of being unable to use powers, even with my, and my friend's assistance .

Perhaps my problem is that I don't have enough drainers, in which case States, I ask simply, under what circumstances have you (as an electric blaster, or kinetic/electric defender) have you in your testing been able to drain an Archvillain, and then, which Archvillain was it? Personally, the most I've ever teamed with on an Archvillain was 5, 3 electric blasters, 1 kinetic/energy defender, and 1 kinetic/eletric defender (uber drainer). The Archvillain was Anti Matter. What exactly Should be needed to drain an archvillain? Not to 0, but to a point of being unable to use their best attacks.

Those are the only questions I ask.

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States, I hate to be rude, but if you seriously think that an electric blaster's drain can be helpful againest an AV, you obviously have never played one.

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Shadowhunter = drained
Nemesis Rex = drained
Bobcat = drained
Dr Vahz = drained
Psychic Clockwork King = drained
Theres 5-6 others that ive seen drained, and kept drained, that i cant think of the name of.

Electric blasters are fine, why dont you try leveling past 16 before trying to sound like youve got a clue.

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OMG

Are you Serious??? How did you do that?? I'm not kidding, I'm level 44, and I've fought all those guys, but I've NEVER been able to fully drain them. How'd you do that? Wow.

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I expect them to rock in PvP though...

If you care.

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Nope, fraid I don't.

But wanna know why they AREN'T going to rock in PvP like everyone thinks?

#1: Our only effective drains are all melee, meaning that againest blasters, we're going to have to chase them down and die, getting into melee with tankers and scrappers is death, and controllers will just hold us.

#2: Stamina, EVERYONE has it, and it negates the effects of even the best drains, I mean, that's why some bosses and all AVs give us so much trouble, we cannot even begin to keep them drained, and while this may make it easier to take down scrappers and tankers, everything else will still be able to do their stuff.

#3: Kinetic has better drains, that not only drain, but buff, heal, and recover end too, and then are ranged. THEY'RE going to be the masters of PvP, while electric blasters will twiddle their thumbs as they excell at neither PvP or PvE, and thus are officially declared "Gimp"

Truthfully, I can't wait for PvP though, cause that's when the Devs are gonna realise what [censored] they've made of themselves and start to actually put in some effort to fix electric.

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I've gotten one up to lvl 32 then lost interest partially due to this.

The 2ndary effect is really lacking with only Short Circuit being my worth while end draining power. I hear power sink and shocking grasp are good but I'm not lvl 40 yet.

I have no problems with its damage though. I just wish the 2ndary effect was as useful as all of the others secondaries.

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Truthfully, I love end drain, I find it very useful... most of the time, I can tank better than some tankers by draining mobs, but the truth is that I can't drain AVs, and I really couldn't even begin to drain decently till level 22, and then, I wasn't as uber as I am now till level 35, and even now, at 44, I'm finding more and more mobs are able to regen so fast and resist my drain so much that I cannot do my uber blapping.

That's probably one of the biggest issues with the electric powerset, everything about it SCREAMS situational, the pet isn't good for much more than that last 40 damage to off that one guy who stunned you, end drain only works if they're fully drained, don't have resistances, and don't regen quickly, the telsa cage only works on lieuts and minions unless stacked.

I don't mind the situationality of it that much, but I kinda wish there were more instances where I could actually be of some help were right now I'm not at all. (Titans, Sappers, AVs)

I sent him a tell saying that even fully slotted for end, I have never been able to ever drain an AV, and that the thought that electric could be used to drain an AV is a bit off

(For anyone new to the subject, he said that endurance drain was "Outstanding againest AVs")

He told me this...

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They CAN...some AV's have resistances, others have powers that enhance their Endurance Recovery.


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Alrighty...

States, I hate to be rude, but if you seriously think that an electric blaster's drain can be helpful againest an AV, you obviously have never played one.

So I suggest, you go to the internal server, role an electric blaster up, insta level it to whatever, and PLEASE just try to drain an AV, alrighty, now that you have debt, let's try it with a team, you can grab positron and make him be a tank, make poz a healer, make lord reculse be a bubbler, and let's say the rest can be 4 kinetic/electric defenders. Cool, your teams awesome now, the tank, healer, and bubbler alone should make you invincible, so you can take ALL the time you need.

Start draining, before the AV reaches 0 end, he'll be dead, and guess what, with the way end works, he'll be firing off his best attacks the entire team, each time his tic of end comes, even if you somehow miraculousy reduce him to 0 end.

You'll have learned 2 important lessons every electric blaster knows.

#1 End drain only works if they're fully drained, partial, it's a no go.

#2 You can't fully drain AVs.



I'm really serious about actually playing one. It doesn't seem like you ever have. (sorry if that sounds rude)

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Hello again all,

In recent weeks, I’ve been paying close attention to the big monster spawn posts on the boards (Adamastor, Kraken, etc etc). Recently, a debate about Jurassik has come up. Currently, Jurassik only spawns in missions; he does not spawn in Crey’s Folly. We plan on addressing this concern soon. Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention!

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Huzzah!

I figured my topic would spur a reply!

Everything I do always does!

I mean EVERY FRIGGIN THING. Look into it, I gotta be the most frequent reciever of dev replies, even if they aren't directly related.