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Quote:Originally Posted by Cathulhu
A bit off topic, but I find this all quite interesting and amusing.
Many PvPers have traditionally made fun of RPers, yet here we people who are PvPing and are getting more into their roleplaying "Fight Police" then most RPers out there. Having been away from the forums and PvP for almost a year the question I have, and I am quite serious is...
Are the "Fight Police" RPers who have discovered the fun of PvP or are they
PvPers who have discovered the joys of RPing?
HP Lovecat
I've always loved PvP. Even before that trying to solo EBs (which was hard with SOs being the only enh back then, aside from hami's which i never bothered to get) was the way i would have fun.
I've only realized RP a year ago, but never made fun of them.
As for your question, they are insane and nobody will understand them, haha. no they are pvpers from the start, and if you call all this RP then that came after. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
As an outsider looking in:
It doesn't seem right for people to go around and purposely try to ruin other people's fun... just because they are "doin' it wrong."
On the other hand, the "fight clubbers" are being a bit too entitled in that they expect, nay, demand to be left alone in Zone PvP... which makes no sense.
So, if the clubbers would just realize they can and WILL be interrupted and stop QQing about it AND the self-appointed police would just cool it and stop intentially pissing people off, all would be good. But I sense that neither is going to happen. Honestly, I think the "police" have the edge here, as much as I hate to say it.
No it only looks that way on the forums. Imagine 30 people trying to duel or watching a duel. 1 fc police comes out and interupts the duel.
Who's the bully? The duelers really out number fc police in real game. fc police just dominate the forums.
Not to mention, i've been dueling in zones for years and barely ever been interupted. Even now with FC police. They walk in, say "no dueling" as if they own the place (espically con, yes i'm dragging you into this) and i usually disagree and attack them.
So, personally, next to never be interrupted i can't "realize" that i'm going to because i know i'm not. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Squidlington
I let fiteklubbers be, but these "fiteklub police" threads make me want to review that policy.
Any fiteklubber who doesn't understand that everyone in the zone not interrupting his duel is doing him a substantial favor needs to be reminded that no one cares what you would rather be doing than as-designed, open-zone PvP.
(Additionally, I usually turn off broadcast before zoning in. If you aren't fiteklubbing in the very few places typically associated with it, I will not be stopping first to evaluate whether I have your blessing before sending you to the hospital.)
This is all i ask. I'm not saying you should stop and ask everytime u see a fight (although i basically always do) if i'm in the train fighting someone by myself, and people are watching (basically it's obvious i'm dueling) please leave me alone. Feel free to attack me if i'm watching (usually bring a stalker to watch if that happens) or just standing around. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
I am the new Zen Shadow.
FEAR ME.
<3 Epsilon
Wow you out multi-posted me. Lemme find something else to comment on. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Why don't the frustrated duelists just join forces against the Man, beat him down and then go back to thrashing one another.
Am I missing something?
Yes. The people who interupt duels use heavies, summon shivans and pop inspirations. Duelers dont. -
Quote:Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I am not sure why I need to repeat what I posted before. It was pretty clear, but I will use one sentence answers to explain the differences between PVP Zones and the Arena.
The Arena was designed from combat with individuals and groups in a separate environment from other players.
The PvP Zones were designed for combat between anyone that can attack each other in that zone.
It has nothing to do with "being polite". If you go into a PvP Zone, you should know that anyone that can attack you may very well do so. Don't expect people to hold their fire because you want to use a PvP Zone in a non-standard manner. I think it is more impolite to expect to be able to use a PvP zone in a non-standard manner than it is impolite to use a PvP zone in the manner for which it was designed.
PvP Zones were not created for one-on-one dueling. If you don't like getting attacked by someone else when you are dueling, then take your fighting to the Arena.
Complaining about being attacked in a PvP Zone by players that you don't want to get attacked by is pointless. The point of a PvP Zone is that players can battle one another on one huge map where everyone can participate.
This is a very basic concept. If you can't understand it at this point, then you won't understand it.
If you want to duel "in peace", then go to the Arena.
Characters are free to attack targets that are available in PvP zones and you and whoever else you are dueling with are both available targets to every other player in a PvP zone. It should be no surprise when another player attacks you in a PvP Zone - as that is the entire point of a PvP zone.
Wow. Took up a lot of space there. Too bad you didn't actually answer the question. I'll rephrase it.
Why can't you hold back your aggressive behaviour for 1 minute to save us 10-15? You don't actually have to answer that. It's self-explainitory. -
Quote:Originally Posted by KingOfStars
But why should i have to make a 1 minute + duel into a 10-15+ minute duel bc some people cant be kind enough not to attack me for a minute?
There is no reason. They just like wrecking your day.
This is the point i've been trying to explain for a while. No luck. -
Quote:Originally Posted by ConFlict
Why should I have to get your permission to attack in a zone that was meant to be open with no such restrictions? Because you are to lazy to got to the arena?
Bad news for you, your laziness and selfishness will never be a motivating factor of how or why I pvp. Sorry you thought you were so important only to find out you weren't.
Yea not like your selfish attacking a somewhat defenseless person for a chance at a recipe and some rep. You seem too lazy to actually have a real fight, you like to kick people while their down and say u win. -
an invul can take a lot of people with unstoppable/demonic and aidself that has 2 interupts (goes thru snow storm).
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Quote:haha niceOriginally Posted by Sabin
I thought this was going to be a Jerry Seinfeld thread.
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Quote:Originally Posted by macskull
Amusing how you talk about "honor" and "coward playstyles" yet you have no issues whatsoever TPing an MM into midair (failing, I might add - oranges help a lot with that kind of stuff) and then TPing away as quickly as possible once you get grounded.
Get wrecked.
i RP all my toons, and agent is as old as the game itself. I play him exactly like the first. Only difference is i don't have a full tray of breakfrees, which i'm somewhat glad they are useless always hated getting them.
Did i TP you out of a duel or something? Last time i checked, TP foe is a power anybody can get and use in PvP. Why did i TP for u in the air? If u were on the ground right away u could run. No Super jump and by the time u hit the ground my snipe has gone off and slug finishes you.
Yea it was funny, when u ran out of oranges i guess u just switched, lol.
Usually when u drop a flier, they super speed away. It's just more frustrating with me because i TP. Perma travel surpression is hard without a toggle on me, so i can TP away from basically anything. Webbing me is basically the same as TPing me into 20 trip mines. I'm not gonna stick around to watch what happens when it's so obvious.
And hey, they got me yesterday. Wasn't actually angry but impressed they got past. 1 webbed, and did ET while another ASed. It's fine because i know to fix that so it won't happen again anyway.
Agent is a weak toon. He can't do hell in a fair fight. Ryu is stronger and can take people out with multiple enemies on him so he sticks around. Also after they go thru all my heals, MoG, IH, demonic and things. It would be rude to just run to base, they worked for probably 5 mins just attacking me. How would running help? Would i get more kills? no. I don't really see the point. But agent can be taken down in seconds and he has a reputation of not dieing. -
Quote:Originally Posted by KingOfStars
Why do these guys just have to be so rude? I was trying to duel and i tried about 5 times with 2 different ppl and they just interrupt. Why cant we just duel?
See billy....in life, jerks exist. And they populate the forums.
The fight club police like to interupt duels because they can. They also like making a joke out of the whole thing by pretending your breaking the law.
Also, in a zone full of 30 people dueling, it only takes 1 to mess everything else. They just want the attention. My advice is too send a tell to the person you want to duel and hide it. I get duels all the time in zones when the fightclub idiots are in the zone. -
This is how he's learning to play. By asking us.
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Quote:Originally Posted by macskull
Well that means you're either slow on clicking the heals or you just didn't take them, because I don't recall seeing you healing at all.
Yea the sad truth was i was used both heals and MoG, then demonic and still died. I'm not sure how, i havn't died in demonic for a long time, or eye of the something blue side. Well there were 2 thug MMs, both used gang war, i know u phased for awhile to get ur health back which was a little break since now of the pets or heavies could touch us, but cleo (if i'm correct was the other MM) killed the squishies and then i was in the middle of the entire mess with the heavy. It might have nuked me, or even just hit me with a melee attack as those really hurt.
Again, it was pretty fast so i missed what was happening. So i switched to my Blaster and started TPing both of you :P -
Yea i've teamed with darth ronin, he's a good friend and actually helped me with my warzone toons.
That's when i was on freedoom, and it was easy. With and without him. It was mostly easy because i was playing my SC stalker, who i just IO'd to have an extra +40% dmg buff, which seems to not be adding 2 much, procs are more help.
I used that stalker for about a year straight, no other toons. I know how to play him, or atleast i did. Some nerfs and changes hurt. It's painfully easy for me to play a stalker because i'm paranoid and careful. I once hit phase shift at the black market because someone near me used Build up, it was reflex.
I RPed with Prowler as i do with Ryu.
Yea prowler had a pre i13 SC build when he entered RV. Took a while to learn what he needed, did a few tests. And stalkers will never be so high on the food chain unless they are in SC.
I'm surprised you knew i was prowler, and i'm glad u didn't come out and say it 3 months ago when it mattered. But i started using prowler again because now i'm known as ryu, not prowler.
Yea vince said he went there and killed a bunch of people. I had doubts but after i went there myself, yea i believe it. You could have some of the best players there, but really, 80% are noobs that arn't even enhanced. -
You don't seem to know me well. Did u ever notice me run away from a battle? no, i'm known for that. I would have switched to my blaster, because he's much better at warzone then ryu, but horrible at duels. I didn't log because i was losing, we were losing at the very beginning (i think) and i didn't bother running away.
Really in the situation we were in, i would have made everybody go thru the sewers and attack from behind, we could get a kill that way and if we stayed split up, not get taunted.
As for your tactics of taunting and running/phasing.
I refuse to use tactics like that. It's like poisoning someones drink before a battle. I like to go up and fight. -
Con you can ask anybody, i've never asked people to come to RV to help. I've been alone vs an 8 man team, and i know for sure because some of them were globals, and not called for backup. I didn't hide in base, i went out and fought, i'm used to going solo against huge mobs. In that situation i didn't get any kills, 8 are too many and that was before web grenade....not to mention razor's heat exhaust always goes thru my MoG.And i'm sorry that they keep showing up, but i can't stop them.
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Quote:Originally Posted by macskull
So wait, you're actually Shin Kunoichi playing on one of Vincent Balmont's old accounts? You're the terribad MA/WP that keeps getting wrecked by my Thugs/Dark and RPing in local when you attack me?
Maybe not Zen, but still just as lolzy.
Vince is @UnstoppableJuggernaut He still plays
I'm not MA/WP, i'm MA/Regen, shows you havn't really been watching me at all. lol i love rp pvp. We've never 1v1, so you've never wrecked me. You wrecked me and a few others when u had another MM and 2 heavies, but u weren't alone.
Originally it was going to be Relentless Prowler, but my main was Juggernaut's Fire (SS/fire brute) so i made it Relentless Juggernaut. Wasn't like prowler could solo relentless missions anyway, well, not quickly. -
Quote:Yes please try to insult me knowing nothing of me or my characters, it really shows your true colours.Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
This level is badness makes my head explode.
Lissen kiddo, the players your talking to here, would FC you, and beat you with an emp/rad using only brawl and absorb pain. This entire thread is a troll, a joke thread, if you don't realize that from the start, you need to seek education.
Second, Are you going to tell me that its not fun for me to kill u FC'ing and then laugh at you as you RAAAGE? Get a life. PvP stands for Player(s) vs Player(s), expecting us to do anything less is beyond stupidity into thresholds I cannot describe. Now please, get out of the boards, boards are for intelligent jesting and discussion, I am not saying your opinion is wrong, but the facts that you holds your opinion up with are. Your Morals are not mine, nor Con's nor anyone else's.
This isn't something to joke about. Because real people get the real emotion of anger when their duel is broken up. I know this is a joke, but at the same time everyone who goes on the forums has seen it. You make it seem like u have power. The police can recruit publicly because they are powerful, the mob can't because the police and government controls what can be said or not publicly, and would arrest anybody who actually went.
Anyway, back to it. No you don't have any real power at all. You can't make us do warzone nor can u stop duels. If this thread was for anything, it was to intimidate duelers, and it obviously didn't work, because i'm on this thread posting the duelers ideas. So this thread is total fail. If i'm doing anything, i'm taunting you and flipping the entire thread. I'm showing how little power you have even if ur trying to convince people that you have it.
I understand that you have fun breaking up duels, kind of like how a murder enjoys killing people. But i don't respect either.
Claiming to be intelligent. I bet you gave yourself that title. True proof of the lack of it.
I don't even see any facts that i've posted. So not sure how i could be wrong with them. I'm getting tired and need sleep, and don't have time to scroll up. -
Quote:Basically what's i've been trying to explain the whole time. I've never been one able to simplify. Don't be mean to people, unless they are mean to you.Originally Posted by Forgottenn
This reminds me of the PvErs ageist PvP post. My view is if it doesn't bother me then why care and try to greave for some one who dose. And pz some one try to tell me how fc ruins rv. For me it gives me some thing to do if there are only 2 people on the other side and 8 on my side until they even up again. Don't get me wrong I will kill some one doing fight club once in a wile just for sh**s and giggles but i will never go out of my way to bother them.
And guess who shows up on the same server as me and claims he owns it? None other then Conflict. Will he fight me alone to see who's actually better? Of course not, he tried to kill me with his stalker while i was taking a pillbox without a heavy and failed, sometimes i wish i had phase. He needs hit numbers/inspirations/heavies to help him. I won't deny i started using a heavy after as well, that's what happens when someone corrupts the zone.
Also....Seriously? Some of those "tactics" are very cowardice. Taunting and then jumping around? SS/fire brute with phase? Can't say u took it for an offense power, stalkers are vill side. A lot of people agreed with me and even pointed it out first. On Justice we have honor, and mostly respect for eachother.....we're not super aggressive. You don't own the zone since u never play, nor are you even like a justice player.
Lastly if u consider yourself a good player then hey, my egos back up, because that means i am too
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I won't deny any challenges, because i'm not afraid to lose. I know i'm not the best PvPer nor do i claim to be.
i build most of my guys for melee battles, because those are much more fun for me.
Beating me won't prove your side, and it won't make me feel bad. All it will do is boost your ego a little. Also, i remembered the ignore function, so i don't fear of being bothered when i dont want to be.
Justice Player
@Relentless Juggernaut
Main: Ryu Hayashi
If your asking for a duel, no inspirations, no temps. No leaving the stage is usually one, but if it's arena it's fine, since u really can't. I don't mind melees kiting, although i'd rather die then do it myself. I usually allow accolades, as anybody can get them with a little hard work. Also i don't mind fighting characters who have been slotted with influence bought online, because luckly u can't buy skill online.
As i said before i'm about to respec him. I actually came on the pvp forums to ask for advice but now that i see who would be answering, i think i can handle it myself. The best PvPers i've ever seen don't even touch the forums anyway. -
Quote:I think creating a group is stupid, even making one to protect duelers. If everybody was more mature, it would be more peaceful, and these groups wouldn't exist. The warzone pvpers wouldn't attack the duelers and the duelers would sit there like they always do.Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
BTW Sentry4 I have a pretty good idea, apparently you don't. Also, this is the Fight Club Police recruitment thread, perhaps you should use the Fight club Protectors thread instead to spew your rhetoric.
But instead there are more aggressive children. This is a great example of how numbers don't matter. The entire world could believe someone to be wrong, but if he was smarter and brighter then everyone else, he is right. I don't claim to be smarter then everyone here because i'm not one to judge someone on a few posts. And i have my own opinions about intelligence, but they are long and most suited for a philosophy forum.
The problem you want to solve is to get rid of duelers. But then the zone would about half as usual. Why are we being seperated? It's much better if we would all just get along in 1 zone. Not saying to be nice to eachother, i believe someone needs to earn your respect. And if someone is insulting you by all means go ahead and interupt every duel you see them in. But picking on random people just for the fact that they are dueling in a pvp zone is unfair. -
I'm not Zen shadow. I'm not surprised someone with my views has annoyed you already about how wrong you are. I looked over his posts, personally i take my opinions more seriously then he did.
The multi post is a style, u shouldn't be surprised if more then one person does it. If someone looked all of that in a single post, nobody would read it. Probably wouldn't even fit.
I need some food, give me 30 mins to eat and work my toons new build. -
Not really one of you, see i don't kill people for fun, nor do i make people mad by interupting their duels. Actually, if i gank someone, i ask if they want to kill me in rest for a chance for a pvp recipe their self. Only if i'm carrying an awaken though, i used to play a stalker in SC and got used to never dieing, good ole phase, fly, and teleport.
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Quote:If he did it on purpose i can't complain?Originally Posted by Zanthar
Im not a pvp by trade but isnt 'dueling' in an open pvp zone kinda abusing the system? Basicly all your doing is trading kills for badges. If you want to duel why dont they take it to the arena or pocket D? Makes no sense to me. Both those venues are for 'dueling' pvp zones are open zones for full pvp. Complaining about being killed during a duel in an open pvp area is like complaining that a mac truck hit your go-cart on the freeway..
If he did it for no reason aside to make me mad i can't complain?
If he did when i asked him not too i can't complain?
Ur statement is a little flawed.