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To cry.
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If you add an A, an O and a N to the word cry, you get the word Crayon. I like drawing.
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Heres a question for you:
Why does the Easter bunny carry eggs? Rabbits don't lay eggs.
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Can we have a question not about being punched in the balls? Besides, this questions sucks compared to the first one.
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Mine's something like 130-140.
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No, as in inbetween 130 and 140.
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If they have Forts, that's one less /Rad or /Storm to worry about. Things are looking up! The more /Emps the are, the easier it gets, right? (Unless it gets to a point where they stick aura on autofire, and then it becomes an exercise in futility and we all go home for supper.)
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I'd probably go with this as my team build in an ideal world:
Illusion/Empathy -Moi, to buff everyone's endurance, add fear and confuse to the mix, and if I see you using Focus on someone you wont beat my healing rate.
Gravity/Storm -Lady White, so we can stand in her whirlwind, alot of Slow/Holding power in those sets too, plus toggle droppers.
Gravity/Bubbles -Cherry Drops, Hold and slows again, toggle droppers, Force Bubble and Detention Field, I'd probably get her to focus on a Spines Scrapper the whole match. And just to add - With Force Bubble you can only get in Range for Focus, Shockwave wont reach.
Illusion/Rad -Light Petting, More endurance buffs, -Def -Acc -Res -Dam all in two toggles. Then there's lingering Rad, say bye bye to any Regen Scrapper.
Illusion/Kinetics -Mimic, Speed buffs, Endurance again and ID gives resistance to knockback which to be honest was the only thing the Scrappers had going for them. Again -Regen in transfusion and if he wants someone on your team ain't gonna have much end. Fear and Confuse again.
Stone/Empathy -Lethargy, another healer, more endurance for all and that lovely Quicksand. I've seen how much mez he can stack myself, it's crazy.
Mind/Empathy -Jasmine, for that oh so brilliant Telekinesis, plus more healing power, and more endurance, and more mez resistance.
And if I'd have to take another, I'd take an Ice/Storm, for variety, not like it'd matter much.
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But you have to be in PBAoE range for Vengeance to work - and we already went over the problems with grouping together. Worst case scenario: they get Vengeanced and I SJ/GhettoJump away.
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For a start Quicksand is -jump, a Controller isn't going to lay it down for you to jump on, because you wouldn't, he's going to cast it on you. Grouping together would be a better idea, one Force Bubble and you're out of range to use Shockwave, no AoE knockback.
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Hover ain't that fast any more, and Group Fly is a good way to burn through endurance and fly like a particularly fat pigeon - shooting fish in a barrel. (That said, I wonder how useful Team Teleport would be in the new PvP zones.) I can cycle Focus just about fast enough on its own to keep someone spinning at least 50% of the time, I reckon - more if you add Shockwave in there. Question: when immobilised with a Spines attack, how does that affect player KB attacks on the same target?
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I've always had three slotted Hover on my Controller and even with ED that's not going to get affected much. It was always fast enough for me. Indeed you are correct, a Spines Scrapper's immobilise carries a -fly too, it'd be a bunch of Scrapper's best bet. But there you go again leaving things out - a group of Controllers is going to have Immobilise resistance - Clear Mind most probably, or Increase Density. Unless of course you meant to type -Fly rather than Immobilise.
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Destroyed by what, exactly? And it's my job to make sure I stay away from corners.
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After someone TKs you, you don't decide wether or not you're going to go into a corner - the Controller does. And you'd be destroyed my being Held and taking massive containment damage.
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And that's the Defender's job to look out for themselves - plus, a 'troller hunting a Defender is a 'troller who's not watching out for me.
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Yeah, I'm just going to forget there's a bunch of Scrappers struggling on the edge of our Force Bubble and run out to your Defenders, I wont just get the whole group to move forward too.
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As pointed out by myself, I'm not planning on doing this solo - I'll have 7 other teammates working with me. If all that effort has been concentrated on just taking me down, what the hell are my buddies doing - playing hopscotch?
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They're getting ready to log off because it's pointless trying to get through the Force Bubble.
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So many variables, so many possibilities. To turn the tables, if I could: what would your tactics be, as a Spines/Regen? That's not a challenge, I'm just interested in hearing your views.
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I'd shoot the Force Bubbler, who'd be stood next to three */Empathy Controllers laughing at me. After a few minutes of futile attempts and deaths I'd MoG and hit one with Ripper looking really badass by doing so, then die, then come back and go back to doing step one. -
Yeah, Kaya acted as bait for a Stalker duo
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4. Don't argue with Midnight, you'll never win
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Hi, I'm Syn - we must not have met.
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Can't agree with either of those.
Syn's arguing for a situation which in 99 times out of 100 the Controllers win. In one the Controlers go afk so the gimp Claws/SR Scrapper can tickle the Controllers to death with his highly resisted damage type. -
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Speaking personally? As an SR with Quickness and the possibility of an AB on me - Slow what now? Slow powers that have to hit... have to hit, and look, I have a tray of big farmed purple pills here - how handy - and 2 Forts, plus whatever Maneuvers the Empaths are running - maybe even Vengeance, who knows? As a Claws Scrapper, I have the advantage of an extremely fast-loading Focus and Shockwave - ranged attacks, just fyi - and unless those 'trollers have ID on them, they (and the majority of their pets) are going to spend a lot of time on their backsides. [censored] it, I just can't stop pimping Knockback.
If they start scattering, they lose the effect of Leadership buffs - if they huddle together, they're a static target. I wouldn't like to hypothesise further, because any one of a hundred things could happen from that point, but I'd probably try to isolate the stormies so that my other teammates could get to work.
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Let's list slow powers available to a controller:
All gravity immobs holds etc(Can be highly stacked).
All ice holds immobs etc(Can be highly stacked).
Snow Storm.
Quicksand.
Ice pets.
Lingering Radiation.
I don't remember any more right now.
That's gonna slow you to a crawl, this is after you use three break frees to get out of the Controller's holds, if you're not dead by then that is. What's stopping a Controller from getting big yellows to counter your big purples?
What's stopping them from getting big purples? Great, neiter of you can hit eachother for however long they last. Great you might get forts and leaderhip buffs but they might get those too.
A very good tool for use against Controllers is knockback I agree, but hey - you mention you might even have vengeance - so might they, and Vengeance gives knockback protection. Also, a Controller with a mind for PvP is going to have hover, one of them may even have group fly, which counters knockback.
You'd isolate the ones stopping melee from getting near, do you think they'll let you? They'll just blink in your direction and you will be destroyed, maybe just TK you into a corner.
Before that they might annihilate the defenders looking after you, maybe one Controller for each defender.
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Here's Asain reporter Trica Takanawa on the scene.
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In other news, The Arachnos Base in Bloody Bay = Owned by 3 Scrapapocalypse members \m/.
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Special report - Freyr posts more than one word. World decends into chaos. -
*Puts a "Precision Rangers are BANNED from this thread" sign on the door handle*
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Hey Midnight, they can get through Whirlwind by using MoG! That would be an exelent idea!
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I'm a pvp pro so be quiet.
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[edit: I did say something, but in the interests of not being a [censored], I scrapped (snerk) it. That's my good deed of the day, go me.]
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Why am I a "Dooooom" sayer if I think six scrappers and two Empaths can't take a group of eight Controllers?
A bunch of Scrappers can't do anything to a Controller running Whirlwind, only Spines and Claws. If one's running Force bubble then only one of their ranged attacks are getting through. And if there's a mind on the team then the whole group of Scrappers is going to be stuck in a corner all evening.
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So we're gonna fill this thread with [censored] and our daily lives like that 'other' thread?
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I died because Midnight Agent sucks and can't hold his own.
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Hello arch rivalsjust thought I'd let you know that I have put a cheeky little addition in to my latest story as a post in response to one of Qs... Chives is in it to...
See you on the beach boys!
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And BY THE WAY we do have a base.