Saxtus

Although Lallia and I we were there waiting for rest of you, what Lallia said...

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Not to mention i wouldnt do this if i was with a team as it defies the point of tanking.

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Ah, you're right... Silly me.

I am not impressed. You should checkout my ice tanker (of course only in missions and with team worthy to manage what I am going to bring to them)...

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i shut off all contact with friends as i'm generally too tired

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You will shut us off? We make you tired?
Oh... I got it now! We aren't your friends...

I am offering to bring and exemplar my tanker next Sunday at 14:00 GMT if Chin isn't there.
It's up to you to decide.

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Psht, Xanthus has a crappy Mic/PC/Connection but we had enough people to relay to get it done.

[/ QUOTE ]Before someone thinks that, let me let it clear: I am not blaming Xanthus at all, remember! I was there!

The problem might be the difficulty, the lack of heroes willing to try, their difficulty to follow simple instructions or all the above. Now if we use a global channel for that or teamspeak, I don't think that make a difference if orders fail to carry out or there are not enough people to execute them. I've just believe that teamspeak adds an extra barrier to the above already existent problems.

Then that's means that I am excluded from the raids as I couldn't understood his fast pronunciation. Nice discrimination...

Of course I can't do anything about it, my "divide and conquer" method failed but Xanthus' one with teamspeak, done successfully over Defiant. As I can't offer a successful "counter-method", I will shut up now and be sure that last Hamidon raid I've done was with Lost pre-I8 and will remain a beautiful memory...

Thank you Lost.


P.S.: At least I've tried...

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Thats what makes teamspeak so helpful.

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Teamspeak work only when all participants can understand what is spoken. As I've said, that was the main reason why Xanthus' try failed.

Please don't believe for a minute that everyone is from UK and their ears are "trained" to all types of pronunciations.

As I've said earlier, you was free to suggest changes to the above plan.
I believe now it's a bit late for that.

Plan didn't work as expected, although we managed to get more than half yellow mitos debuffed, took us so many tries that people bored to death and left.

Thank you all for been with us but I am not willing to retry organizing something like this in the near future, although I am willing to participate in organized tries from others.

KNOW THE ENEMY

Each Mito has a PBAoE auto power and a targeted power, in addition to their standard “Resistance” and “Fly” powers.

• Yellow mitos have a 45 foot PBAoE damage/stun that activates every 4 seconds. Their targeted power is a 45 foot AoE damage/stun with 600 ft range. Each blast does approximately 500 points of untyped damage and the stun has enough mag to break through Scrapper toggles, hence the need for Clear Mind or Clarity casters tending to the scrapper teams. Yellows need to be melee’d due to high resistance to ranged attacks.

• Blue mitos have a 15 foot PBAoE fear/debuff power that activates every 2 seconds. Their targeted power is a single-target damage/mez with 300 ft range, 1.87 second cast time and 6 second recharge. Blues have a fear and endurance drain attack. They are also the source of the chain lightning you will see shooting from player to player. The chain lightning is little more than a tickle, but you will see orange numbers floating up from your fellow heroes. The Blue mitos make Dark Defenders with Shadowfall running very valuable to the assault teams for fear resistance. Blues must be attacked at range as they will drain the endurance of anyone in melee range.

• Green mitos have a 150 foot PBAoE damage/debuff power that activates every 6 seconds, but can only affect one target per activation; they also have a 70 foot PBAoE heal power that activates every 7 seconds, healing all allies within the radius for 321 HP. Their targeted power is a single-target heal for 1205 HP with a 300 ft range, 1.0 second cast time, and 5 second recharge. They have an additional self-affecting auto-power called “Regenerative Aura” that activates every 10 seconds and appears to grant capped regeneration (500% HP/ minute) and high resistance to damage; the effects of this power seem to have conditional statement attached to deactivate the effects while held. The base “Held” attribute protection for Boss_Mito class entities is -100. Greens have a -heal attack which will practically cancel out all healing in a few hits. This is the reason Tanks can not be kept alive by healing, they must be teleported out to recover while another Tank steps in. Greens also have a powerful force field that must be dropped by holding them prior to all out attacks. The weakness of the greens is they heal the closest damaged target first, so by assaulting the greens directly, they will focus on healing each other rather than healing yellows.



Hamidons’ AoE attack also has a –heal or –regen effect, which further complicates the Tanks job.

Mito Blooms/Spawns occur when Hamidon reaches 75%, 50% and 25% health. Each bloom only happens once at the specific percentages, so there are a total of 4 mito phases. When a bloom occurs the entire raid must make a speedy strategic withdrawal (run away screaming like little girls). A little tip on getting away faster, the goo provides all within it with Super Jump.

Source


ALL TEAMS

• Each team leader will be invited to a private global channel one hour before the raid begin.

• Team leaders must explain to your team mates that if they have any question, must ask in team chat and not use any other means (like broadcast). This way we make sure of two things: 1) Everyone has someone to turn to in case that s/he don't know what to do, 2) Campers are excluded from the communication channels and thus from our raid.

• If a team leader isn't sure about something, s/he must use the private global channel to ask (avoid tells please), we don't expect everyone to memorize the plan but hopefully we will be able to solve any problems by communicating efficiently through this and if something does repeat a few times, will be less margin for error.

• Instruct your team mates that if they must not go close to tankers, to not aggro any yellow mitos and that if they need to run away to save their lives, they must NOT go close to the hidden debuff togglers, just run for the hills...


THE PHASES
Below "Phase 1" is the part where we place the debuff togglers, "Phase 2" the extermination of Green Mitos, "Phase 3" the extermination of Blue Mitos and "Phase 4" the extermination of the Hamidon.


TEAM 1

Phase 1
• Each Tanker is paired with an empath so s/he can be buffed accordingly.

• After signal is given, the tanker will go and draw aggro of a specific yellow mito until the debuff toggler is hidden behind a rock.

• Then he will scream for TP into safe place.

Phase 2, 3 & 4
• We decide in which order we send each tanker in as they can't go all at once and empaths begin to buff the first one that we will send in.

• That tanker begin taunting Hamidon and empaths begin to buff the next tanker.

• When tanker is completely debuffed for heals by Hamidon and begins to drain, the next tanker goes to continue the taunting work and the previous one is teleported by an empath so he can wait until the debuff gone and patched up.

• This is repeated non-stop to keep Hami aggroed.


TEAM 2

Phase 1
• Kinetics (if exist) buff all each of the debuff togglers then they choose one yellow mito for them and a tanker will assigned to help them place their buff.

• After signal is given, the tanker will go and draw aggro of a specific yellow mito until the debuff toggler done it's job of buffing it and go hides behind a rock.


Phase 2, 3 & 4
• Stay safe behind the rock.

• If for any reason your assigned mito freed for your debuff ask so everyone retreats in to safety away from the rest debuff togglers (that they must not move) so we can repeat Phase 1 only for the failed debuff.


TEAM 3

Phase 1
• Normally you wait in safety but in case TEAM 1 fails for some reason, we will work out a plan while you will work with TEAM 1 until Phase 1 is done.

• Meanwhile each scrapper pairs with one of the empaths to look after him/her.

• When Phase 2 begins, Clear Mind should be spammed on the scrappers as much as possible, and the empaths should Clear Mind each other occasionally.


Phase 2
• Team leader assigns a Green mito, empaths throw their RAs and everyone goes to attack it with extra careful not to touch any of the yellow mitos.

• This is repeated until all Green mitos are defeated.


Phase 3
• Team leader assigns a Blue mito, empaths throw their RAs and everyone goes to attack it with extra careful not to touch any of the yellow mitos.

• This is repeated until all Blue mitos are defeated. Expect special co-operation in that step from ranged attackers' of TEAM X because Blue mitos endo-drain any hero comes in melee range with them.


Phase 4
• Team leader gives signal and everyone begin attacking Hamidon until he spawns next round if mitos.

• Everyone must be reminded not go attack Yellow mitos and when new mitos are spawned, not to go near the debuff togglers.

• Repeat from Phase 2 until Hamidon is completely defeated.


TEAM X

Phase 1
• Normally you wait in safety but in case TEAM 1 fails for some reason, we will work out a plan while you will work with TEAM 1 until Phase 1 is done.

• Team leader will tell you who will be our target designator of the TEAM 2 so you will know what to target each time.


Phase 2, 3, 4
• Target designator of the TEAM 2 assigns a target, empaths of TEAM 2 throw their RAs (and if your team has any AoE buffers they do the same, so be sure that you're next to them) and everyone goes to attack the designated target with extra careful not to touch any of the yellow mitos.

• Controllers help will be invaluable during the Phase 2 as Green mitos shut down some of their attacks while holded.

• Ranged attackers' help will be invaluable during the Phase 3 as Blue mitos endo-drain any hero comes in melee range with them.

• This is repeated until Hamidon is defeated.



It is normal this plan to have holes as has never tested, feel free to correct/suggest anything.

Now I have a lot of excuses if this raid isn't successful but I am not looking for excuses

Of course. You will be in TEAM 1 with me.
Your stone tanker is level 50?

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It might be worth noting this thread on the general forum which implies a Halloween ball going on just about the same time (which might suck away some people.

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OMG! I haven't noticed that!
I didn't realized that this conflicts with another event and when I spoke to Mother's about the raid in game, never mentioned it, anyway it's too late now...
In case we fail to gather enough people, we won't begin the actual raid.

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I have the flu at the mo - and if I ain't much better by Friday I will be able to make it cos I'll stay in with some lemsip.

[/ QUOTE ]Usually at this case I wish for the ill to be better, but now I am puzzled! We want you in the raid!

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Can't see why you don't use the tested post I9 method that allows do the raid in 2 and a half hours though

[/ QUOTE ]Because I was where they tried that and after 3-4 hours of no results, people begun to leave... Now multiply that about 4 times that I went on different Fridays and you can see why I don't want to try it again.

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I think it's rude (or at least not polite) to use the forum for contacting some specific people referred as "the usual suspects"

[/ QUOTE ]I was referring to my friends that usually come to raids, like Mother's and Dave. Sorry if anyone thought I meant him as something bad and repulsive.

I think will be well forgotten when I11 gets out and while more and more people learn about I11 been live at Training room, I don't think I will find anyone by the time we decide that enough time is passed from previous attempt. Of course if nobody appear we will postpone it anyway, I am hoping that this will not be the case.

The people needed =<50
The people I expect to find through forum >=5

You're welcome to come as team leader for TEAM 2!
I will invite you to the Hamidon leaders global channel next time I see you.

Under what global is your fender?

Until now I have more people saying no than yes. Although I appreciate feedback from both parties, I am missing answers from the "usual suspects"...

It is understandable why most people don't want to participate, last few times wasn't the best way to spend your time and to be honest there are no promises that this one will not categorized under those again, but I was hoping that there will be some people that haven't lost their faith.

It isn't about the reward anymore and you all know it. We are trying to prove that everything can be done with good teamwork!

That's why we have the X teams Nightmarer...
Hamidon raid is something that everyone should enjoy.

I decided Friday, because it seems that people used to that day. If we do a successful one, we will see, but until then there is no much margin for changes...

Does anyone been in a successful raid since I9 released?

I wouldn't do that if I had lost my faith.
Hopefully I will find others will similar feelings.

Who is willing to try it again? No teamspeak/ventrilo, no broadcast channel!

Idea is simple: We decide beforehand who will lead each of the required teams and make sure that they know how to guide their teams. This hopefully will avoid unnecessary conversations in broadcast channel. I will make a temporary global channel that only the 6 team leaders will allowed to enter and we will try to co-ordinate from there.

Reply here if you belong to one the two categories:
<ul type="square">[*]You want to lead one of the following teams and you have the required patience to make sure all of your members will know their roles -- Make sure that you haven't hit the global channel cap or you will have to remove yourself from one of your channels to enter ours...[*]You want to participate as a member in to one of the following teams because you fit it's description and you are able to understand and follow the simple commands that your team leader will give you during the raid[/list]Constructive comments are welcome.

Who want to lead each team? It is important each one that s/he will know what is the plan and have the patience to explain it to his/her team members during the raid. This way, is excluded from leading someone who don't participate to this forum.
Who want to be just a member in one of the teams? It is important to understand that not all the members know what to do and be patient while the leader is trying to explain to everyone.

TEAM 1: I will try to lead the hami tank team that will have 4 x tanker (must be lvl50) and 4 x empath.
TEAM 2: One needed to lead the 6 x debuff toggler and 2 x kinetic team.
TEAM 3: One needed to lead the 4 x scrapper with 4 x empath team.
TEAM 4, 5 &amp; 6 (for short the TEAM X): Three needed to lead TEAM X that will have everybody else that might randomly appear and/or won't fit to any of the above teams.
NO ONE WILL BE TEAMLESS!

I really hope this to work. If there is interest I will post the scenario of each team, i.e. what exactly must do, later in this thread. Everything that we will going to do is SweetChilli's idea and described in detail here.

SCHEDULE
All times are GMT (London time)
<ul type="square">[*]19:00 Team leaders meet at the entrance inside The Hive and begin building their teams. If some don't come in time, we will permanently give their place to someone else willing to lead it's team.[*]19:30 We go hunt some DE to make Hamidon to spawn. Although we have EoEs from last time if we decide that after Hamidon is spawned, we don't have enough, we will jump to Peregrine to hunt some more.[*]20:00 We make sure that everyone knows the plan and that all teams are standardized. Hamidon raid begins...[/list]Temporary global channel details will be given to those that are interested to lead the above teams, by PM.
After 6 hours I will be unable to edit this post, so please check below if there are any changes to the schedule/teams.

And, no doubt, we will appear again if there is interested from the right people.
I've counted 41 people btw, I don't think anyone was hiding.

Divide &amp; conquer...

I will come with Iaso, an Ice/Empath troller.