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you can't really hit anything 6+ levels higher than you and do anything to it. They made that change back in the day... the infamous "purple patch"

had the tree of life been forced to exemplar down to your level for the combat, you would have made quick work of it.

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Just to prevent people from quoting me inaccurately...

Hamidon Enhancements boost either TWO aspects of a power by 50% or THREE aspects of a power by 30%.

If you battle in the Arena another hero in a weight class below you (weight classes are five level bands), you will be auto-exemplared to that weight class.

This also means that the effectiveness of your Enhancements are capped to the level of effectiveness of that weight classes' Enhancements. That means that your Hamidon Enhancement is considered at an S.O. or lower level, rather than +50%. You'll still have the advantage because two or three aspects are being boosted, but you won't have the overwhelming % advantage.

This, however, does not occur when fighting within your "weight" class. If you're in your weight class, Hamidon Enhancements are killer.

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States,

What about people who have nothing BUT Hami-O's in their slots. I know of one charcter personally that has done the raid so many times, thats now all they have. How does this affect the guy who actually works all day to pay for your game vs. the guy who does 165 raids day in and day out just to get the power, PvP does not seem so fun anymore when faced with this possibility.

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assuming he works 40 hours a week, that guy who works all day to pay for the game must only be making 37.5 cents an hour. :P

Sorry i'm not statesman, and really i'm just picking on you for a clumsy sentance. just joshin'

here here!

with the new drop system, it will be MUCH MUCH harder for someone to spec out their toon, since less HOs drop and Hami spawns less often, and is a little harder. The real problem will be that most characters will get useless HOs, and may have trouble trading them. so, the problem has been stalled... now it really will take endless farming to spec out your toon.

I'm not sure very many people will be interested in doing that, and thus it won't be a noticable or glaring problem.

well now all those players have to do is leech. i guess now everyones happy.

all enhancements are loot. the whole game already is loot based. this player paradigm that its not has been flawed from the start. The point is the only loot thats relatively difficult to get (i.e. you cant just purchase it) is HOs and 51+ SOs.

well most of that distasteful griefing stuff is gone now.

the rest of your opinion has been expressed by others and ignited a few flame wars. mostly the suggestion that all HO users are PLers or power gamers. i'm sure you can observe the wreckage by reading most of this thread :P

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Okay then. Maybe this forum will be a better place for me as well with me on your ignore list.

It comes down to you do want unconditional surrender. I never started until RocketLegend did. You want me to show respect to him hes never shown? Im not sure I can. But if you want to add me to your ignore, go right ahead.

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you persieved my words as insulting to you, then threw a tantrum and continued to rail against everyone who disagreed with you with the same vehemency you showed to me, the original offender. don't blame this on me, kiddo, you are being a jerk to everyone - not just this single jerk.

hey "casual gamer" if you want to use a different term for yourself go ahead. you seem to take pride in being "casual" and if casual is the opposite of intense, and the opposite of serious, don't get down on me just because you've labelled yourself as such.

how is it better? i was literally using an antonym of casual. an antonym for casual is intense. and antonym for casual is serious. its not better, its opposite.

I'm sorry if you feel inferior, but thats the way the english language works! maybe you can ask the Devs to fix your thesaurus.

well they went live. It'll now take 3 times as long for you casual players to catch up to us intense players, if you where so inclined. (or maybe "serious players," use whatever antonym of casual you want)

This won't matter to erik and all the arrogant casual players that are "above" that, but if they wanted to leech at minimum effort, they now can with no repercussions.

Hooray!

If the changes on test go live, it just got alot harder for the casual player to earn hamidons, but alot easier for them to get them for just being there.

i'm not saying it will take to long, it just sounds like something that would be funky to impliment to me. I have no idea if they wrote the enhc code in a manner that is easy to manipulate like that or not. it just sounds lke a modification to basically every power - for each Multi-O type. unless they have clever coders (more clever than me, which is easy to be)

its not the dropping the uneffected parts of the enhancement that sounds hard, its the rigging each power to determine what percentage of the dropped power applies to the effective power.

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I'd much prefer it if Hamidon Origin Enhancements just didn't exist...

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Makes two of us.

PvP aside, the game's not balanced for Hami-O's -- and, since they're supposed to be rare, it can't be. Except that they're not rare for some people anymore.

It doesn't look like the designers envisioned people having more than a couple HOs at any one time. Unfortunately, that's not how it turned out.

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so because a few people are unbalanced, by your standards, you want to do away with the only end game content's reward?

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Uh. Look at the post directly above yours in flat view. That's not just a little unbalanced. Regardless, there's a better way to fix Hami-Os than to simply do away with them. There's basically two things that make HOs great: multiple effects and stronger effects. Therefore, the easiest way to make them fairer in the arena, while still maintaining their flavor, would be to modify, slightly, the way they work.

First, cap their total effect at 40%, or slightly better than a SO. If something is a 50% Acc/50% Dam, it becomes a 20% Acc/20% Dam SO. At first blush, that might look unfair, because it means the character is running a DO and half a training on each effect, but when taken as a whole (220% base damage plus enough accuracy to ignore 60% defense). If the power can't normally be affected by one of the HO's effects (for example, slotting a Dam/Acc in burn), then that effect is removed, and its points are redistributed to the other effects. In the case of Burn, the HO would act as a 40% damage enhancer, since Accuracy can't be slotted in burn.

This would allow HOs to give a very slight edge in the arena, but enough to still be overcome by skill and a small amount of luck.

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that sounds difficult to code, being that they would have to modify each power to keep track of how much the hamidon effects it or not.

I'm just curious to see what the devs are gonna do. Getting really burnt out on the speculation and suggestions.

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I'd much prefer it if Hamidon Origin Enhancements just didn't exist...

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Makes two of us.

PvP aside, the game's not balanced for Hami-O's -- and, since they're supposed to be rare, it can't be. Except that they're not rare for some people anymore.

It doesn't look like the designers envisioned people having more than a couple HOs at any one time. Unfortunately, that's not how it turned out.

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so because a few people are unbalanced, by your standards, you want to do away with the only end game content's reward?

I think the insanely short line of sight will make stuff like that unviable. you wont be able to jump at moving targets because they'll dissapear when you get to far. I mean 75 feet isn't even the full range of a blasters level 1 attack.

you probably wont be forced to fight those guys camping out the arena.

there should be an option to tone down hamis, SOs, DOs, or even no ench mode. but it should be an optional rule, like the no travel powers setting. It shouldn't be a completely segregated deal.

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Long thread.

My 2cents.

HOs are "broken" in PvP & should either be 1). PvP nerfed to SO(33%) of 1st listed type and / or be classed as "Unlimited". & HOs should flag you. Hidden Nitrous Oxide is not a racecar.

Now can we please stop spamming HO whiney threads and continue posting about why "no one can beat your AT in PvP"

thanks, I knew you would understand.

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I don't think they're broken at all.

well you aren't alone in your thoughts, but i have read some people that want to take on HO heros with SOs and feel that they will win and feel more powerful because of it.

for the challenge?

yeah there should be a no-hamidon class for 45-50 too. I agree.

which is why i support turning off HOs or having a no-HO option. If you don't want to fight me as enhanced as I am (its not a wardrobe or trophy case, RP wise its a part of me... as much as SOs are a part of you) If you wanna take on just my skill thats cool too.

Mind you it will be fun totally throwing down on somebody and woopin their butt.