Omega_Chief

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Originally Posted by Kyzock That's what all stories and RP plots are SUPPOSED to be anyway: Journeys. Currently the Unionverse RP'ers are on a journey to RP their characters within the confines of the established canon of CoH lore, which is fine and dandy to do. I imagine it's quite a difficult struggle, and a balance HAS to be maintained.

No where near as difficult as you'd think, so long as you keep your characters powers and abilities reasonable. But then again I favour mid to low powered heroes myself, might be really good at one thing, but that one thing doesn't come up very often :P

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Originally Posted by Kyzock Also: Yes, CoH is a grand story delivered to us all by the game's developers, yet it's also one where we the players can transcend the story given to us, by introducing our own unique characters.

The best way to think of it is that if we were a comic book continuity, the Devs would be the ones who came up with all the big Crisis Crossover events and wrote the issues for say Superman and Batman.

While we players do the smaller crossovers and write issues for Green Arrow, The Question and Power Girl :P

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Originally Posted by Kyzock To answer Omega Chief's question as to why I'm RPing in CoH: I don't RP in-game very much. As a matter of fact, I limit my own in-game RP activities to Pocket D, mostly watching others, reading the local chat as it scrolls by. I have too many alts to bring in, because I have altitis.

Ahhh, thanks for the answer, it helped

It's just like I was saying, there's a bit of a disconnect between the two styles of RP we have on the two serverlists.

See unlike you over there on the US servers we never had a massive huge community and so it just naturally evolved into a single server community where most people have at least heard of everyone else’s characters or SGs in passing.

(I feel compelled to add I too suffer from Altitis, having two and a half pages of characters, the upside is I have a character and style of RP for almost every occasion :P)

Heck we didn't really even have Open RP threads until just before the forum merge!

Anyhow, I'm rambling now, I just hope I've helped get across some of the differences in our way of thinking and RPing, which is why your ideas for fixing i weren’t quite so well received.

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Originally Posted by Kyzock Well, good luck with the future endeavors of the Unionverse.

Thank you, I wish you good luck and much fun with your RP also!

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Originally Posted by Pistol_EU an actual player-ran Unionverse plot

You mean like the hundreds we've run? Or are in the process of running? Heck I've said it before I'll say it again, Techs Arachnos attack was a great example of this kind of plot.

Heck Open Season was doing just fine until the school incident as many have said, just didn't appeal to me.

If I wanted to strike down creatures of darkness with holy golden light I'd go play Exalted :P

The majority of your alterenate solutions all seem to boil down to "Break down the Unionverse and switch over to the American way of doing things" or at least that's the feeling I keep getting.

Soley good and evil? Not an exploration of how super powers effect people and the world around them? About what constitutes a hero (Especially now GR is around)? Matters of how fixed fate is particularly in city of Villians?

Yes there's lots of heros vs Villians, but how many missions/canon events have you/other heros foiling said evil plots -before- they're commited rather then just ranomly stopping them? To name a common one, defusing bombs, this is a comonly attempted form of mass destruction mass casulty thing, though most commonly you charge in and stop the villians and defuse thier bombs before they kill people.

This is where we disagree, sure there can be good deeds, unless a mugging or bank robbery are atrocious, tragic and/or horrific strikes now? Most of the game is spent investigating various villian groups to stop these plots before they happen which is usually how RP goes as well, at least how I've seen it anyway, so I disagree, you don't have to have the evil, atrocious, tragic and/or horrific strike first, in fact all you need is the villian to plan, prepare and attempt to impliment it, at which stage you foil him.

And that's how you can have a large scale threat without inducing a world changing responce to deal with it.

As mentioned, this works because of your "Every RP Thread is it's own continiuity" policy, os anything that happens in that thread only happens in the 'Patchesverse' as it was, with no influence over any others.

See, we know we can come up with ideas for Dev scale events, but we can't impliment them the way Devs can, and as almost the entire RP set in the Unionverse takes place in the game, this is where the issue comes up. We don't want to relocate to soley foprum based RP just so someone can pull off a Dev-scale eevnt once in a while, which as stated would have to be in another continuity anyway, becuase not everyone wants to play "City of Heros/Villians on a bizarr alternate planet".

Players can have tons of interesting ideas it's true, and I'm not saying they should, just that certian ideas won't work with a shared RP unierse like we have, and it's quite an amazing feat really, and I don't think any of us EU RPers wants to see are community torn up like you're suggesting.

In the end it all boils down to this, CoX is a setting that exists and has in many cases things which are immovable and perfectly defined, teh Devs are like the grand GMs dictating the shape of the universe, while we players make our own plots within this.

If this isn't what you want, the question springs up with "Why are you RPing in CoX then?".

I feel compelled to note that as this is a text based medium and you can't tell how I'm phrasing this, it's not meant to be an attack in any way shpe or form, more an honest question.

Now getting school numebrs would eb silly, as Paragon is a fictional city we don't have the numbers for, all I recall from rading this thread and talking t some of the aprticiapant is people going over to US websites to look up the term dates as there was some confusiona s to if kids would even be in school or not.

Doesn't seem like over analysing to me.

Leaving the Tomb stuff out of course, I'd rather not go near Tomb, OOC or IC.

Inspiriation is good! I myself played CoX before I PnP'd, however if we went off soley game mechnics to be the exact judge of what RP characters were or wern't capable, it'd be silly. Take the MA set for example if we go off game mechnics then every single martial artist in CoX uses teh exact same moves. Always.

And if there were canonicallys everl hundred heros capable of solong Recluse/Villians capable of soloing statesman, don't you think one of them would be impresioned/dead by now?

RPers will always have arguments and differences of opinions, we're all highly creative storytellers who all of our own view on things, which of course leads to lots of interesting debates and quite a few arguments unfortunatly.

And in this case it's not over analysiing! It was a collosal death toll, you know the kind thatrarley happens and has collosal consiquences when it does, CB's initial intentions were to creat such collosal consiquences as Tomb wanted people to go to war with Vampires/Demmons.

But what do I know, my characters exist to do more then forever run IC missions or stand around complainign they're not doing IC missions :P /notaseriouscomment

You know me and you know the characters I was mentioning, they're definatly not 'everything' the Tank is very tough, because tanks are very tough. All but one of my other characters bar one are actually far weaker then game mechenics would suggest, as them beign *** with bullets tends to be fatal :P.

;.;

*Weeps into Word Document entitled 'Tech's Dark heresy Character*

You mean like that time Recluse launched a full scale invasion of paragon backed by the Jade Spider? (He even attacked Croatoa!) Why i sure do remember the massive US counter attack there... oh wait they didn't, because teh heros sent Arachnos home packing.

Techs invasion plot was little more then a surge of activity in PvP zones, which happens all the time without triggering responces like this because things have become just a fact of life for everyone.

It's a bit like characters who claim to be stronger then Statesman really, as he's canonically the strongest hero on Primal Earth, simpley put if we're going to RP in the CoX setting we have to stick by it's canon, otherwise what's the point? We may as well just go and create our own unvirese and so on, why even play :P

Ah but the AE can be abused to make Farm missions, missions be shot down if thier content is too graphic.

And above all player villians can' stand up to the Canonical ones, and as RPers we can't deny Canon, just because we can tell an infinate amount of tories does not give us right to tell infinate stories.

And for the record, this isn't about squimishnes, not for me anyway, it's about how such a thing would require a responce we can't do,a fter all an AE arc is an AE arc, we can't have the world eb actually changed now can we? Which is what the circunstances intially demanded.

Again sure you can -attempt- a big huge world altering plot jsut fine, attempt is the key word though, because it's a foregone conclusion OOC hat you'll fail.

Only it wasn't, CB explicatly had it really happen in the Unionverse real, which is what we were objecting to.

This is kinda why i refuse to ignore anyone on principle really Tech >.>