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How so? A damage spike on the first attack from cloaked?

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Cool.

pssst Fusilier. Accuracy's been nerfed.

There we go then. Thx D_C.

He means when it comes to folks "losing" you. CD lacks the -Speed of Stealth, thus it is technically better. Me, I think having CD be more like Hide (with the total invis with one power, not the damage-spiking thing) would be a trade off for addition of suppression.

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That is because the devs always (not-maliciously) miss something that should have gone in the patch notes.

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True *cough* Trip Mines *cough*, but new issues do tend to bring along a bit of jumpiness. Or in this case (?) some misplaced blame. Instead of seeing an AI change (if there was one) folks see a change to Cloaking Device.

This could very well be the case.

The hostages and the ambushers are two different things IMO. If one can't see you whilst Cloaked or Stealthed or Hidden ow whatever, neither should the other.

Hide, not Stealth. Well... unless you're taking Stealth on your Stalker. CD hasn't changed, as has been stated repeatedly now. Perhaps it's an AI thing. Not saying that the AI's changed, mind you. It might have or maybe the AI's reacting the way it's supposed to. Whether it did before or not's another question. I mean, it makes sense. You go all see-thru, folks shouldn't... well... be able to see you.

It's not getting off track. The OP's talking about tooling thru PI and now getting shot for his trouble. I suspect he's just been lucky up until now.

Nem snipers fire explosive gas rounds.

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The only powers i have active when I noticed was CD and fly. I was zipping through PI as I usually do. That's it for stacking.

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Ah... sounds like sniper fire then.

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Update: Doing a Malta mission, not a safe guard mission: SG + CD (unsuppressed) + Trip Mine = BOOM!. Walking up to a Malta = aggro about about 10-15 feet, which is the norm I encounter for CD and Stealth.

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Okay then. Post-issue "there's a nerf behind that rock! And that one! And that one!" jumpiness? Or is this only going down during escort missions with different mob AI, "ambush" AI?

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In Safeguard missions the mobs may be working like ambushes.
If Cryptic could trigger and ambush to go after Jimmy Hoffa they'd find him in a minute.

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Only if he was a */Dev Blaster

Beats me. Like I said, I don't mess with CD anymore. Maybe Malta got a +Perception bump? Hate it for toe-bombers. Now, instead of CD+SS or SG, you need CD+SS+SG.

Ah, maybe they could see thru a 2-stack of -Perp but not a 3-stack and CD was brought inline with other -Perp powers? Technically, this wouldn't be a "negative" change in that CD's not worse than Stealth, in regards to -Perp, but now at the same level as Stealth. Just a guess. Someone with more experiance with Stealth or CD or similar will have to check things out.

There you go. Which brings us back to the questions of stacking. Are you stacking? Also, there are certain mob-types (in addition to snipers) that can see thru your cloak. Are you doing things you've always done against mobs you've been fighting before TheAedile?

Pretty sure rescued hostages lose you when Cloaked. Can't really say as I stopped bothering with CD. I know they lose me when I'm running a Stalker. It might be the same with CD, but since it's not total invis, like Hide, it's hard to say. As far as non-snipers taking shots at you, are you stacking CD with Superspeed? Are you stacking it with Smoke Grenades? CD doesn't give you total invisiblity and needs to be stacked otherwise mobs will fire at you when you get too close.

That isn't to say that there wasn't a CD nerf. There've been nerfs to powersets (including to Devices' Trip Mines nerf of I3) that don't get announced in the patch notes.

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More then likely, other plans are in the works too, possibly good or bad. Hopefully, not bad, as Castle did post some of his ideas here first and should they bad, the mobs will likely look to burn blasters at the stake first

*Straps on his helmet* Luckily, I am prepared for the worst should it happen. *slams door on his underground bunker* CLANG!

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*mutters* Dam it Fusilier, locked me out AGAIN! *finishes setting detonation cord* Hope you like the new door chime I installed *sets timer and runs for cover*....*waits*....*waits* Damn Timebomb takes forev..*BOOM!*

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*Pops head up from his bunker* What the heck is all that racket?...*sees a plume of smoke a short distance away* Dam it Outrider, do you really feel it was necessary to blow up my garage door?

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*Helps Sgt_Paine "liberate" Fusiller's supply of Spam and Funyuns and SlimJims*

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Worst abuse of the Global Frequency, ever.

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Largest Quote Pyramid I've seen, ever.

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Meh, seen bigger.

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More then likely, other plans are in the works too, possibly good or bad. Hopefully, not bad, as Castle did post some of his ideas here first and should they bad, the mobs will likely look to burn blasters at the stake first

*Straps on his helmet* Luckily, I am prepared for the worst should it happen. *slams door on his underground bunker* CLANG!

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*mutters* Dam it Fusilier, locked me out AGAIN! *finishes setting detonation cord* Hope you like the new door chime I installed *sets timer and runs for cover*....*waits*....*waits* Damn Timebomb takes forev..*BOOM!*

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*Pops head up from his bunker* What the heck is all that racket?...*sees a plume of smoke a short distance away* Dam it Outrider, do you really feel it was necessary to blow up my garage door?

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*Helps Sgt_Paine "liberate" Fusiller's supply of Spam and Funyuns and SlimJims*

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We'll get them to use countermeasure beta one of these days. Wonder what that'll be.

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I think it involves pushing the boob-slider to eleven.

PhoenixKnight, don't worry yourself. These are just theorical tweeks that may or may not ever see the light of day. Folks are simply thinking thru the small shiny object that was thrown in here to distract us.

Blasters: Rawr!
Dev#1: The Blasters are revolting!
Dev#2: Tell me about it.
Dev#1: No, no. Look, they've got torches and pitchforks and everything. They look quite upset.
Blasters: Rawr!
Dev#2: I see. *presses button on desk* Deploy Countermeasure Alpha.
Redname: We're looking into improvements for the AT... soon.
Blasters: Joygasm!
Dev#1: There we go. Now they're focusing on what changes we may or may not have in the works that may or may not happen anytime soon.
Dev#2: Works every time. Let's go get some Funyuns.
Dev#1: Mmm... Funyuns.

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Like I said, I understand your point, but if the Devs balanced this way for all AT's, then they missed quite a bit in the process.

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Exactly. If they "balanced" Electro-Blaster drain based on the fear that multiple Electro-Blasters on a team would be overpowered, yet allowed "Buffer Overrun" to exist I'd be even more pissed about their handling of Elec than I already am. I don't think team stacking was a major consideration Night_Fyre. Hasn't been for any other AT or powerset.

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Didn't you get the memo? Blasters will get nothing because they're afraid to ask.



Castle called devices "gadgets" mistakenly, and people have been ragging him and the other rednames in general for it since.

They'd probably rather stay in silent apathy rather than talkative apathy.

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Where does this leave "gizmos" and "whipsy-doodles?"

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Aisle four.

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Okay, I can understand why everyone's not getting all excited about this. I know where the skepticism is coming from.

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Or as the Bard once said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me fourteen or fifteen times and we're talkin' a Lifetime made-for-tv movie."

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What?!?? No, we're talking Jerry Springer.

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No, no. For that to be true the players and the devs would all have to live in the same trailer park or housing project and/or be related.