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I miss having Trez around, tbh.

He's usually 100% good natured until a spike comes in, then he's like RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH .
I won't lie when I say I sometimes skipped healing him just to see what his rage would be like. >.>

A:Show him a series of The Tick comics/TV shows. Then go back to sipping chamomille.

A: Because we'll win, now fetch me the newest Hockey News, forsooth.


A: Send him to the Gulag Archipelago, get a new dungeon guard after dinner.

A: Then you can rot in that cell. One less self-entitled, tiara wearing socialite in the world will do us a WORLD of good.

A: I slide down, kick them in the face and push them off the platform. Afterwards, a helicopter throws down a rope ladder and exeunts me to my secret lair (with hidden helipad, of course).

A: No, I'd rather you think about what this is about. Meanwhile, I have addictive sodas to sell to young children and hope to sell to the dazed and gullible populace.

Couldn't agree more, I've been having a blast with our team.
Exit's been carrying us, but Peril's been Obi-Wan Kenobi dispensing wisdom.
Joe's been more like Han Solo shooting stuff, while I've been one of the extras sleeping in a corner. We won't even get started on Philly, she's like the rookie that keeps it fun for us all.

Update your roster on the boards, as the rules state you need to, and there will be no issues right?

Seriously Bud. Be the bigger man, take your good PvP skills and mentor your team and others here. I know you can do it, I've seen you bring PoN and the Champion server together for tons of events in the past.

Look at it as a point of pride. If you can take the high road, your SG will respect you and everyone else on the server that has had rocky histories with you will at least gain some additional esteem for you.

GL in your matches.

I don't think there's a vote Bud, though I'll gladly be corrected.

You volunteer, run events and try to grow PvP interest.
Kat is running this, and overlooking other server events.

I don't think there is a dichotomy in your last statement (well put by the way). I think if people are having fun (I'm not sure on this, I know we are...dUmb are...GDHRT seems to be, along with Exile) then the points are only mattering for e-swagger and the prizes.

Lite, I know what you are saying on peering eyes. I have held my keystrokes on several issues...I've really tried not to get drama get in the way. I've played everyone that has shown up so they have fun competing.

I just want pvp to grow. Do I want to win? Hell yeah. Did we try playing for a tie? Yes we did. We talked about it on Vent in our second match against 0utcazt and Peril wanted to try a 2 Emp/TA lineup. It didn't work and we benefitted it from it, oddly enough.

Guys, it's critical we just keep fighting and put our best foot forward.
No one knows who is going to win this. I have my own thoughts on who th best 3-4 teams are, but we'll see.

Anyone who was in the Freedom ladder, remember the D6 teams? They were for new players/non-vets. dUmb picked up Pixel, Smallzies, doyler and a few others from that.

Treat this as your "D6" for Champ. Train the new young guns in evasion, give them good builds, answer questions, help them out.

I've been PvPing here for who knows how long; I've always helped people out, goodness knows there's no room for ego where my performances are concerned. But I still plug at it, hoping maybe one person out there wants to play an Ill/Emp or support and gets good at it.


Agreed...against Broken Chains they brought in a Tanker for two of the matches to lower kill counts. We managed to get some kills in, luckily. We don't want to play for ties (yeah, I know what I said above) and we'd much, much rather get 12 points than 6 or win a closely contested game or even get rolled rather than having a 0-0 score after 10.

<3 <3 <3

TY Kat, well said and let's move on.

Bud, it's not a seeding/W-L-T system, it's point based.
Stop looking it at as WLT. If it were, dUmb would be way ahead of us.

You get rewarded for losing and tying and you get doubly rewarded for winning.

Myself, I'm more concerned with the favourites and keeping up to them (Looks at Psoma/Lib/Pixel/Mebs/Sir >.> )

This, please.

Kat, please limit captain proposals to one per league month so that we get past the trivial/discussable stuff. Pretty much the important stuff has been covered:

-Stalker Limit
-Map selections
-More points for wins


Yes!
People:

YOU WILL WIN GAMES. Sometimes you'll steal games, sometimes you'll be on your game, sometimes you'll lose. The gap isn't that large. Just play to win.

The last place team can go to 24 points with 3 wins next week. If they keep winning they'll be in contention.

Let's not re-do the point system and tie system every freaking week because people aren't happy with their placement.

Seriously.


No way on starting over, from A&C.

Did you not see how long this season is? It could end around the December holidays. Is anyone really going to stick around here on a Saturday during that 3-4 week period?

Besides, even if the season did restart, what will that do? The teams that have a lot of practice together and work together will do well, the teams with less practice and so on will need work.

You want to do things right?

Win.
It's the only way to get where you want to be.

^^^^

100 times this.

Does anyone not remember the old Test Ladder, teams were 0-0, replay, 0-0, replay and so on. Then you keep playing on and on and on and on and on and on...

Just say no to match replays on ties. If you can't get your win, you get two points anyway.

Also, enough votes people. If you have something that you feel needs addressing, send PMs or tells to people.
There really should be a one proposal per captain per month, or a limit on votes proposed.

Kat, I know this is really annoying for you...but please set a limit on voting for stuff or the league will never advance.

No no no I'll have none of that.

MLB example:

After 4 games, the Toronto Blue Jays led the AL east with 4 W 1 L.
Toronto residents should have planned a parade right?

Except that 100+ games later, they're in fourth.

Clearly though, we should throw away the current point scoring system and find a new methodology?

I suggest:

http://www.brianmicklethwait.com/edu...ves/Abacus.gif

Or:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

Performance rating = [(Total of opponents' ratings + 400 * (Wins - Losses)) / Gms]

Of course, the Elo system DOES rank points gained/lost by the skill of the player...but I'm sure no one would ever rage over having their team be a lower ELO score because an arbitrator looked at each team fairly and either assigned them a base 1600 ELO or favoured certain other teams or individuals.

Or we could have used the old Freedom ladder point system...which gave (I think) 750 (W) 500 (T) 350 (L). Kat can correct me on this. Which would just be great...and you know, that ladder's first place ranking wasn't decided until the very last week of the league, was it?

People, just PvP. If you win the gold titles and forum titles, awesome. If not, just take it as a learning experience in playing against different people.

It's a bit of an overreaction to think you're out of it this early. I think we have 28 points, but dUmb is a single point behind us, two other teams are within 4-6 points. Even the lowest-seeded team has what...12 points? If they win their next three, they go to 24 points, striking distance from the top.

Also, say we retrochange all the scores, what's to stop someone wanting to change the point system again and in circles we go.

All of the teams in this League have decent-good-very good players.
Give it time.

IT'S WEEK 3 PEOPLE. 3. The final standings won't be known for at least a month or two more.

Wait...dUmb has hats? I was not informed of this...

I like this idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Let's see how it goes and we can vote this in if it's needed.

World of Confusion in Psi epic isn't it?
That can take Coercive Persuasion.

A MM Blaster might be able to take Confuse, Aoe, Range, Melee, KB and so on as well. Add a set like AR for more AoE goodness, or perhaps Fire (Inferno is a pbaoe?) for those sets.

Good luck!

It's really sad that Oz's team has left, they're very fun to fight.

The silver lining, though, is that 7 teams means no more ties in votes...there will always be a 4-3 majority.


I'm not going on Vent to vote on anything. If there is a vote required I'll consult my teammates, period. Any other team captains can feel free to send me tells with their concerns, but I'm unlikely to be swayed by any statements by teams higher in the ladder; my concern rests uniquely with my team and how best to advance it in the standings.

If an issue becomes of concern to all teams, I'll gladly consider it.
Until then, let's do our best to keep this league afloat and to make fights much closer. Any egregious line-ups can be examined as captains see fit.

Therms have a self AoE Heal, as do emps and pains. Therms have a single target heal, as do Emps and pains.
Just saying...Therms are more likely to be used for their debuffs though and buffs, making them an attractive hybrid AT.

I'm sure if this kind of discussion arises again (hopefully not!) it will be nuanced.

Woot!

Hope this makes everyone happy and looking forward to the fights.

Here's what happened.

AFTER we played our three matches against you, not before, teammate goes:

"Kara, teams fielding three emps/therms/pains is crazy, it'll just end up in draws all the time. People will not be able to score kills."

Me: "Are you sure? We won't be able to play me and Philly together then, since she runs a Therm. Or Peril's Emp and my Emp wouldn't be able to team together."

Other person: "Draws are bad. Please vote this in."

Thus my vote. To be fair, I didn't really think too far past that. I certainly don't want anyone to not play, heck I've always encouraged others to PvP .

I just want to avoid situations where teams play for draws by loading in 3-5 Emps/Pain Doms/Therms.

Sigh.