Necronom

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Holy necrothread Batman!

My highest level hero is a TPer. I have no problem with this fix. Want to know why? Because it was obviously a bug/exploit! I do think TP needs some serious loving but come on... whining about a bug fix serves no purpose other than flame bait.

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Apprently you missed the point of the post entirely. I have no problem with them fixing the camera distance so that it can no longer be used as an exploit. The problem I have with this is two-fold.

1) They didn't fix it, they just broke it the other damned way. The camera distances needed to actually pull off the exploit people were using were EXTREMELY high (well over a million yards). It isn't possible to perform this exploit at a million yards, let alone a thousand (which had been recommended to the devs as an appropriate fix btw). I personally would be more than happy with it set to 700 or so, as this is still useful and also fixes their initial problem. Hell, I'd happily compromise if they set it to 300-400 yards, at least I can see some point to CHANGING my camdist then. At 120 yards, I'm really no better off than I am at the max default mouse-scroll distance.

2) From what I have been able to glean reading the various threads that touch upon this topic, the camdist fix was intended to stop people from exploiting a hole to get underneath the map (which was possible in almost every map ingame btw). While I suppose this fix (overkill or not) does take care of the majority of the problem, there are still a rather large number of places in-game where people can STILL get under the map, over the war-wall, and that's AFTER they nerfed the camera down.

Essentially (and not for the first time this update), they've overkilled something that was usefull to a number of legitimate players in order to stop a few bad apples from doing things they shouldn't have been. Once again, they have pretty well failed to do much more than harm those legitimate players. Those few people who are wandering outside the maps to get hassle-free kills still can, just like the powerleveling goobers in the world will still be able to powerlevel like mad (PLing will be even better, some have gone so far as to say) after the Chapter 4 updates.

Meh...

April Fool's didn't have anything to do with it. The fact is that the information was relevant to the topic. Obviously I'm not the only TPer around who feels that this may end up causing them some grief and I thought this thread one of the better places to catch the attention of those most directly involved. Don't like it, skip it. Nuff said.

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You are forcing paying costomers to play the game your way, which really defeats the purpose of an MMO, One of the big draws of an MMO is how open ended it is, that each of us who pay out every month can play how they want to play. I know it was mentioned the Taxi-Bots, who sit in the train station for hours at a time TP people to the train station. That certainly isn't the way I want to play the game but I'd never force these people to play the game the way I want to play.

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Exactly my point. They're ripping the game apart and for nothing. It's just bringing the rest of us down. As for the Taxi-Bots, watch out, your days may be numbered...

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Well..it's much better than before..but STOP TRYING TO STOP POWERLEVELERS! umm..please Don't get me wrong this is much better..but nobody really cares about powerlevelers..this is removing freedom from the game, and adding stress by making you be close to your team when hunting..then again usually you are close when hunting. Sometimes people hunt in spread up groups..but this is better than the other idea...
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ok, this actually looks like a very good idea..nevermind what I said about stopping powerlevelers...this is not a perfect idea, but there is no possible perfect solution, good job statesman

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I've duscussed my thoughts at length so I'll be quick and simple this time.
Just drop this. It's harmful to the entire game simply to humbug the PL crowd. The controllers and defenders who don't deal damage with many of their abilities will be hurt the most.
The death timer is lame, because in a heated fight it can be over a minute before someone can rez you, and without someone like that, you must wait until it's clear to rez safely.
Just drop it States. PLing will still happen, and this will make people want a PL EVEN MORE as xp slows down even further.

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/beginrant

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I just wanted to toss in my 2 influence and agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with this... It's really getting to be too much. I really don't understand how some cretinous idgit choosing to PL a character and missing out on all the actual _joy_ of the game affects any of the rest of us in the least. Furthermore, the constant efforts to contain the powerlevelers by gimping the game (removing a lot of that joy factor in case you hadn't noticed, while upping the stress, strife and general dissension tenfold) and screwing it up for those of us who are really just doing our best to come together and have a good time.

I don't condone powerleveling.
I don't flame people for doing it, it's really their perogative in my eyes.
It's not for me, in fact I spent most of the time playing my first level 50 soloing, only teaming when I really needed to or was asked to assist someone.

Now that I feel I've come to truly begin to understand the game a bit, I'm putting myself out there and _really_ joining the community. Many of you have probably seen me running around Virtue as Necronom, Freedom as Blue M 'n M, or Justice as Debtmonkey or tEH nEWBIE...

I still don't see just how in the hell people powerleveling ingame has EVER taken any joy out of the game for me, at least not until you good people decided to take it upon yourselves to do so on their behalf.

Really, it makes so little sense to me. Please, dear players, explain it to me. We're cutting off our nose to spite our face, and we're doing it to try and force people who DON'T want to really PLAY the game to PLAY the game. If they don't want to truly experience what City of Heroes can be, to hell with them! It wasn't affecting me in the slightest, and I for one just want to get back to having a good time. Several of the recent changes seem to be making that a difficulty for a number of us. PLEASE try to consider the entire community here, not just the random gits who tend to clog the Internet anyway.
Thank you.

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Grrrrrrr.... Just wanted to call your attention to the new camdist fix... I've started another thread elsewhere, have a look since it may well concern many of you.

The Recent Camdist Fix