Nabiki_Koki

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I'll take that bet.



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Okay, but if I win, you have to take your armour off and run a lap around Steel Canyon while the Benny Hill theme plays in the background.




You.....DO realize that if he takes off that suit, antimatter will mix with matter, and there'll be a huge explosion. Right?

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hhmmm Mr Anti-Matter + Mrs Matter = explosion that would be a interesting wedding

Nabiki Koki Virtue Server

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alot comes down to play style and are you having fun. i have a blast with my set up. i like playing a pure support class and have loads of practice doing it. as for Mrs. Erattics bet on me coming back a whineing in the late 30's early 40's hes basicly already lost since i was lvl 42 when i first posted to this thread . and will most likey be doing hami raids by the end of the weekend

air was just way to get fly. more to personal choice since i usally keep fly off in combat unless out doors or in a fast moving group.

having all 4 leader powers fits in with the build and the concept (RP). as for slotting end in some of the leader powers. thats more for my SG groups then anything. running around with 4 or more fire tanks means alot of healing since we prefer to take on purples when we can.

as for getting aggro thats soley from the new heals draw aggro since i tend to use direct heals since the fire tanks have a tendency to break the leashes. about the only time i can get them in one place is when i call time for RA's >_< .

i find that leader pools have alot more effect the many give credit for. now admittly i have not played with many who have maxed the hamis. and i would not be surpised that my buffs will become less useful at that point. but as of now they are very effective.

many of my selections for my char are RP based. but my contention that a pure support build is just as useful if played right still stands even if my reasons for the selection were RP based

in fact thats my main and only real issue with many of the posts in this and other threads is that. i have found out through the yrs of playing MMORPG's (have played all but Anarchy , warcraft and guildwars) that way to many peeps automaticly think there is only one best way . and that not aimed at you

as for the lvls i blew throught. it was pretty much 14-42 that i blew by. Nabiki was not my main to start. i only really started playing her around X-mas. and i spent 2 months off line due to cash flow issues and i would say about 2 months to get to 14

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Now, anyone want to take odds on how long we have to wait for Mr. Pure here to come whining back to the boards like so many other "Pure" types before him complaining that nobody wants him in a group as he hits the late 30s and early 40s?


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umm you do read my posts right? i am lvl 42 1 1/2 bubs from lvl 43 and still having no issues. and even if you did not read previous posts the one your first quoted listed a epic power???

are you one of those peeps that just scans a post and assumes your know whats being said based on certian key words? i logged on earlier to get my build and got 2 blind invites in the 4 mins if took me to get the lists. and thats without the LFG tool on

i said not enuff slots for me to go around. also you do relise there is a place to type a message in the team tool now? about 3 full lines. mine lists that i am a pure emp healer with maxed RA's adren boost and leader pools.

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That makes absolutely no sense. Unless you were doing just stupid things with the powers it is hard to imagine (a) doing sufficient damage to get aggro from someone who already has it and (b) taking the entire team with you.

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a) it does not take much to kill a defender b) if your the only healer in a group and you die its not abnormal for the rest of the team to die. even more so at the lower lvls which is where i played with the combat power. i do not remember when but i switched to pure healer/buffer before 14.

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in which case you're not having troubles finding groups, you're waiting on a small crowd of people you know to invite you to accept.

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again wrong. i do have several i play with. but i get invites from lots of different people. you really do seem to have issues with making assumptions.

and many who i have only teamed once will seek me out for a group but normally i am already in one. i also get lots of invites while in a group to join another. but unless i am in a bad one i tend to stay with a group till it breaks or i log.

as for the LFG tool you have logged in since I5 right?

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Honestly, I think you're making a serious mistake through your total neglect of your secondary. Since you're /dark, you can provide a degree of crowd control as well as damage mitigation via your secondary - in addition to doing some damage.


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tried that actually back when i first started the char. died alot and took my team with me most of the time. also was alot harder finding groups. when i switched over to pure heals/buffs i not only had no issues finding teams i shot up in lvls real quick. the only thing that has really slowed me down lately is badge collecting and exemping down for TF's which i love to do.

thats one of the reasons i say alot of the "Can't Find a group" is play style. its quite appearent that many share your opion about secondary's. yet by going completely against the "Forum" line of thought i have no issues finding teams. everyone loves to have me even more after seeing what i can add to a team.

but for me thats not a surprise i have always gone against the grain. from everything to a melee ranger back in the day in EQ1. to being a combat , projectile using JE in Earth & Beyond.

i would point out that in any game the % of people that post/read official forums is quite small. some times they do speak for the majority but normally not. in this case i am thinking not since as the Devs have stated they see no problems with Defenders. if a large portion of players disagreed with that the devs would know based on the numbers IE more and more people not playing defenders.

actually as i have mentioned i have all 4 leader powers and 3 of them are 6 slotted so thats 15 less right there not counting the 3 free ones. add travel powers which i only have flight and air sup. flights 6 slotted since i do not use my combat powers any way . plus stamina(6 slotted) which of course requires 2 extra nearly useless powers to get that brings me down 5 more slots right there so thats only 2 left from the 22 your talking about.

and except for absorb pain which i do not have and res which really needs no slots i am nearly 6 slotted on all my primary powers. i do have TP friend only one slotted of course but almost required to have for a high lvl emp defender. i took mass hypno. as my epic power.

heres my build

Heal Aura 6 slotted all heals
Heal other 6 slotted all heals
recover aura 6 slotted all recharge
regen aura 6 slotted all recharge
adren boost 6 slotted all recharge
fort 1 slotted to hit buff
res 1 slotted recharge
clear mind 1 slotted recharge

dark blast 1 slotted dmg
gloom 1 slotted dmg

brawl , sprint , rest , swift and health all 1 slotted misc.

stamina 6 slotted for end recovery

air super 1 slotted dmg
flight 6 slotted speed

assult 6 slotted for end recovery
tatics 6 slotted for to hit plus
vengence 1 slotted to hit buff
manuvers 6 slotted 3 end 3 defense

TP friend 1 slotted recharge

mass hypno 3 slotted recharge

so you see other then mass hypno and fly all my "Free" slots are taken and since i do no dmg anyway why bother wasting them on my 2 attack powers when i can move faster and get off a occasional emer hold.

i am sure some of our local math majors can provide the actual pluses of having me around but i bet hey are rather huge

EDIT funny thing is in the 3-4 min it took me to log on and check my build during off time hrs i got 2 invites without seek ion

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I've heard this mentioned a few times. Are there really that many Defenders without slotted Secondaries out there? Seriously, the thought would never occur to me. Despite the few 'True/Pure Healer/Emp' people I see on the boards and on Broadcast, and admittedly despite some people that seem to think that every Defender should not only bring their Primary Buffs/DeBuffs but also the Teleport, Stealth and Leadership Pools to the table I just never saw the point of not having any proper offence.

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depends on your play style i guess. i have 3 attacks all one slotted at lvl 42 , dark blast , gloom and brawl . but i have all leader powers and except vengence which i just got they are 6 slotted. add Both RA's and Adren boost plus stamina all 6 slotted as well plus fort and clear mind slotted hvy but not 6 , and i really never had spare slots to add to my secondary power set.

i never really have trouble finding teams except when i play at off hrs.

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A defender without slotted blasts is handicapped.

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i beg to disagree. having combat powers can be quite fatal for a defender , even more so now with the recent changes that make healing cause aggro.

my SG is Fire/Fire tank hvy and we often take missions that are 5+ lvls higher set to max diffuculty. normal group is 3-4 tankers plus me. and even without attacking i can often draw aggro off 3-4 burn tanks with powes slotted for added taunt. if i were to attack and actually hurt something it would be quite fatal.

i am quite surprised that most people seem to think a defender without slotted attacks is gimped and i think thats a major part of the issue. since by slotting attack powers you are splitting your slots and drawing away from a defenders main job which ironicly is to defend. if you got spare power slots and enhancement slots after taking all your defense powers cool go for it. but choose to take even more defense powers IE leadership and TP friend.

in a nut shell anyone who thinks a defender without slotted secondarys is gimped should play a few mish's with me. you will change your mind

Well my 2 cents give or take. as a PURE emp defender lvl 42 , IE no dmg powers at all , with a maxed out leadership pool i only have issues finding group during times that there are not many peeps on. i do not have or need for that matter hasten. my stam on the other hand is maxed.

THO this may be due to my rep on virtue .

as for the perception i would say it does exist. i find myself in many groups where people other then the person that invited me are wondering why i am there. after about 5 min or less of playing with me the find out why both RA's plus adren boost alone make me a catch. add the fact i have the leader pools , heals , TP friend and fly. i can easily double a groups effectivness .

i personally think alot of the perception comes from the fact there are alot of half-hearted defenders out there. finding people whose main is a defender is rare. finding people that enjoy playing a support class and can do it well is even more rare. that and the fact many defender powers go unnoticed hurts as well.

we are quite useful and really do not need any dev loving. defenders having a hard time finding groups at the upper lvl need to either check their play times or look at thier play style.

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This technically isn't possible with our engine. It would have to be a huge animated texture refreshing at 20+ frames per second.

We did think of it, but the engineers' eyeballs popped out of their sockets when we suggested it.

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reminds me of the looks some army engineers in my old unit gave the soon to be canned butter bars when he said we could put together a 100 ft wide radar dish and 4 semi's of electronic gear to gether with nothing but leathermans . the LT had forgotten the tools trailer about 1000 miles away.

funny thing is we did pull it off