MunkiLord

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The recent Nielsen study seems to indicate something similar; that a lot of people play games that are, well, outside the retail-in-a-box model.

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I don't remember the last time I bought a game from a store.

Half Life?

I think it was Half Life.

[/ QUOTE ] I still prefer boxed copies myself. I like being able to take a PS3 game to my brother's house. Probably the biggest reason though is Warhawk for PS3. When my brother(and roommate) bought it from the Playstation Store you could only play the game on one profile! That means we had to share a username and stats. But if we would have bought a boxed version we wouldn't have had that problem.

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B_I, am I a member of the Forum Cartel?

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No, you post actual discussion on a regular basis and seem to lack the Pack-of-hyenas-mentality so necessary to enter that clique. We don't always agree, but I can respect that.

And that is exactly what comes to mind when they get going: a bunch of cackling hyenas.

I'm not going to post a list or say anything else to clarify who they are; any notariety is good notariety to them; not interested in feeding that.

[/ QUOTE ] I wasn't actually expecting an answer, but thanks.

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The devs will do what they will, and in the case of Going Rogue it looks like they opted for the easy route: Repeat what they did with CoV (add a new city, despite the player base being spread out as is and ignoring the fact we have empty, content-starved zones going to waste) and do a feature that's fairly easy to execute (side swapping).

Now, I have to assume those plus pistols and demon summoning are the major features otherwise they would have hyped what was. That may change as the hype machine operates.

But at this point in time, in my opinion, Goign Rogue feels very much like an overhyped issue 16 they padded a little so they could slap a price tag on instead of a full blown real expansion and instead of something proper to answer the upcomming other super hero MMOs with.


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I think you're judging the expansion a little early. We don't know all the stuff that is gonna be added. I'm not claiming there is much more than what has already been announced, I'm just saying we don't know.

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And they have every right to tell the devs and the community how they feel about it.

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B_I, am I a member of the Forum Cartel?

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People like you contribute nothing to the community because apparently if the majority disagrees with something initially, it is always wrong.

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Pot... meet kettle.

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Minus the fact that it is me vs. all of you...look up the saying and understand it.

[/ QUOTE ] You vs. everyone? You're making stuff up in your head. Plenty of people came in and offered suggestions and didn't insult you.

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On the flip side, I still see people sometimes who claim that X character was "retired due to ED" or is now "unplayable due to ED", which is hogwash.

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I have a character who 'retired' after ED, my AR/Dev blaster.

The combination was great fun with six-slotting, was a boring mess without it.

That boredom, a direct result of ED, destroyed my motivation to play him.

You can drag anything to 50, true, but that doesn't mean they're "playable".

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Ok seriously, this' the second time I've seen someone knock /dev. What the crap? How is AR/dev even remotely unplayable?

[/ QUOTE ] It doesn't fit with his playstyle would be my guess.

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I like to power level when I am bored of the content.

What are you gonna do about it?

[/ QUOTE ] Beg to join your farm.

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That's very arrogant and short-sighted as it implies that that person knows what's best for a new player.

[/ QUOTE ] Isn't that what the entire discussion is about?

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Once again, how many Farm builds/PvP builds can go without stamina?? Regen Scrapper? I think not, especially when you are facing off against a really sturdy brute. Fire/kin trollers with transference? Maybe if u are io'd out and slotted for some major rech, tried it before without stam, it sucked terribly. Give me more terrible builds to play without stam please.

[/ QUOTE ] Farm builds are an entire different animal and I dont think is really relevant to the discussion. The entire goal of a farm build is to kill at extremely high rates, and getting stamina goes a long way to accomplishing that.

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Well, but wait a minute. The argument I see all the time [not necessarily from you, just sayin'] is that "no one needs Stamina and only lazy/greedy people pick it up."

As Samuel said, I think the definition of "highly functional" is the problem. I think some people are calling being able to fire off three attacks in a row while teamed, "highly functional." That's not my definition.

My definition of "highly functional" is "able to stand there for ten minutes straight pounding on an AV such as Romulus + his Nictus pals, or the entire Freedumb Phalanx at once, without huffing, puffing, begging for blues, having all my toggles dropped, or any of the other bad things that occur when END bottoms out."

I am not here to fire off three attacks and then have to Rest while my team mates pick up my slack. I am here to act as a one person Weapon of Mass Destruction; this is my function and it is very high, admittedly. High function means I need a lot of Endurance and this is just me.... +End power choices are nice, but they nowhere near fill the bill that Fitness does. +End powers are grace-notes, not the foundation of my build. And these powers are almost never, or never, avaliable to me as a lowbie under level 20.

I think a lot of people, especially people blueside, don't see function that way. They're thinking those three piddly little attacks are all they need to do, so why would they need Stamina?

[/ QUOTE ] Well under your definition then I believe Stamina is needed. I wouldn't consider going without it on my AV soloer. Perhaps high functioning was a poor choice of words on my part. My point is that stamina isn't always needed for every character, which some people(not talking about you) claim.

Now obviously if somebody wants everyone of their characters to play at the level you describe then stamina is probably needed on most of them(although it is never needed on a Warshade post level 22, never).

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How much pie do you think you could fit in a mini fridge?

[/ QUOTE ] Some if it's Apple Pie, enough if it's Cherry. For anything else the answer is three.

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Most intelligent thing any of you have said all day. At least here I understand your logic.

[/ QUOTE ] LOL @ you.

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How much pie do you think you could fit in a mini fridge?

[/ QUOTE ] Some if it's Apple Pie, enough if it's Cherry. For anything else the answer is three.

That's not what the OP is asking. OP(and me) want to be able to select the exact level of the enhancement. I'd be willing to pay 30 merits per roll if I could do that.

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But, a top of the line gaming rig is really damn expensive and most people can't afford to buy something like that.

[/ QUOTE ] While that is true, you don't need a top of the line machine to play most games.

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Once again, how many Farm builds/PvP builds can go without stamina?? Regen Scrapper? I think not, especially when you are facing off against a really sturdy brute. Fire/kin trollers with transference? Maybe if u are io'd out and slotted for some major rech, tried it before without stam, it sucked terribly. Give me more terrible builds to play without stam please.

[/ QUOTE ] Farm builds are an entire different animal and I dont think is really relevant to the discussion. The entire goal of a farm build is to kill at extremely high rates, and getting stamina goes a long way to accomplishing that.

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It's easier to pirate PC games than console games.

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Ah, good point - would be interesting to see if there was a corresponding uptick in pirating activity to go along with the drop in sales.

Don't think anyone (besides the FBI, of course) tracks that kinda thing, tho.

[/ QUOTE ] That depends who you ask. In response to pirating some companies add restrictive DRM to their games. That is the reason I(and others) didn't buy Spore. In fact, the horrible DRM caused a huge spike in pirating of the game as a protest.

Some people claim(foolishly) that every pirated copy of a game is a lost sale.

I would love this. /signed

I would really like to see a /Fire defender.

Zek(can I call you that?), I think it depends on what you're looking for out of your gaming. I very well could manage with just a PC(which I'm doing currently). But I very much prefer games like NBA 2K9, Madden 09, and Rock Band/Guitar Hero from a console so I can play with my friends sitting right next to me.

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You can make a highly functional build without stamina.

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Ok, let's take this ball and run with it. What build is "highly functional" without Stamina? On what AT? And don't say regen; tell us something new. After all, the canon argument is that no one needs Stamina; one of the real thigh-slappers I remember was that people who picked up Fitness are "greedy."

[/ QUOTE ] Warshades.

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And even if you can think up a build, how does that address all the others that cannot move three steps in any direction without it? Rhetorical question only, there.

[/ QUOTE ] Rhetorical or not, I'll answer anyways. Oh wait, I already gave some suggestions on that. Which you ignored.

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Guess im gonna just play warshades from now on...

[/ QUOTE ] Plently of powersets give end management tools. She just asked for an example and I gave the first one that came to mind.

I'm not saying going without stamina is the best option, I'm just saying its a perfectly viable way to build. Unless you make a Warshade, then going without stamina is the best option(IMO).

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Except that after PLing there's -nothing- to do.

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Even for you this is a comical argument.

There's as much to do "after" you PL as there was before you PL'ed, or if you didn't PL at all, or if you just hit 50 after 5 years because your morals only let you use brawl on green minions.

The content is still there however you get to 50.
If you PL, all the better- the less you see on the way up, the more you have to explore once you get there.

[/ QUOTE ] I admire you for trying Nethergoat.

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You can make a highly functional build without stamina.

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Ok, let's take this ball and run with it. What build is "highly functional" without Stamina? On what AT? And don't say regen; tell us something new. After all, the canon argument is that no one needs Stamina; one of the real thigh-slappers I remember was that people who picked up Fitness are "greedy."

[/ QUOTE ] Warshades.

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And even if you can think up a build, how does that address all the others that cannot move three steps in any direction without it? Rhetorical question only, there.

[/ QUOTE ] Rhetorical or not, I'll answer anyways. Oh wait, I already gave some suggestions on that. Which you ignored.

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By leveling "normally" through content, you have plenty of time to get adjusted to each new power and use it enough to gradually get an over-all view of the interaction of your powers.

[/ QUOTE ] Most powers in the game don't need time to adjust to. For example, Blaze from fire blast isn't a tough power to figure out. It does more damage than the other blasts. There are many more powers like that.

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This is to say nothing about missing out on actually "teaming" with other people in order to learn to play cooperatively with various groups of players and archetypes.

[/ QUOTE ] Teaming isn't important to everyone.

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I'm not even going to go into the one-tactic mindset or just considering yourself uber knowledgeable because you have a 50 or a epic archetype character due to the fact you were power-leveled.

[/ QUOTE ] Maybe its not uber knowledgeable people and maybe this game is easy to learn. The basic mechanics are not rocket science.

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By power-leveling to 50, you undermine what it means to be a level 50. Being level 50 or having a Epic Archetype character doesn't mean what it used to.

[/ QUOTE ] All it ever meant to be a level 50 was that you put in time. That's it. It doesn't take any skill. Play the same character enough and you'll get there. Now if other people getting there quickly ruins or diminishes it for you, that's your problem. Nobody elses.

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Luckily, we can look at other people's badges and see how long someone has played. That is the only way to have even a somewhat accurate estimate on how familiar someone is with game play.

[/ QUOTE ] Saying that is equivalent to saying a forum user should be trusted because they have a high post count. It makes absolutely no sense.

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No one should be power-leveled or should power-level.

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You can move fairly fast through content while playing it. You don't prove to anyone that you are a great Hero or a vicious Villain by being power-leveled.

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You are a cape-rider and a wannabe.

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You may have the power of a 50, but that doesn't prove anything to me.

[/ QUOTE ] And you are somebody important?

OK, I'll wait to join the cool kids club

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So it isn't just me? The same people which you referred to as "forumistas" are following me around agreeing with one another regardless of how idiotic it is? Hmmm.

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Yes. In fact, the entire Forum Cartel has made it their goal to drive you from the game by contradicting everything you say on the forums. And also cutting your brake lines.

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Hey that reminds me, I can't make the Forumites meeting this Thursday. If I could get a copy of the agenda Friday morning, I'd appreciate it.

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Has anyone else noticed that every time it's TonyV's turn to bring the food and beverages to the Forumites meeting he calls in with an excuse for not showing up?



[/ QUOTE ] When do I get the pleasure of being invited?

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Challenge?! If they are looking for a challenge go play Halo or go fight GMs solo lol. Personal experiences proove otherwise. Team wipes generally mean half the team is quitting. When I said buff I didn't mean like perma build up, I meant slight buffs, to ease the leveling.Also, please help me with not needing stamina lol. I play everything but stalkers and pretty much all of my toons need stamina II have discuessed this in-game with multiple people and it would appear that most of us need stamina, maybe not at lvl 50 when we IO out but at those important levels while leveling, i'd say it is a must have.

[/ QUOTE ] To go without stamina you generally have to make sacrifices elsewhere. Instead of sticking a recharge enhancement into your fifth slot on an attack put in and end reducer. Accuracy is also important, because a missed attacked it wasted endurance.

At the lower levels be selective about when you use your toggles. If you're fighting an enemy that does smashing/lethal damage then turn off your shield for energy/neg resist.

Now by not taking stamina(and in return getting other powers), you probably won't be as effecient for a while. Which, IMO, is just a matter of what's more important to you. Taking other powers, or better endurance management.

The other thing I'm a fan of is cheap frankenslotting. You can get much better than one SOs worth of endurance reduction if you use a mix of various IO sets, and it doesn't have to cost you an arm and a leg in influence/infamy. Sets like Thunderstrike are good for this. Buy the two cheapest you can find and put them in the same power and you have an additional 2% recovery. If you use the other three or four slots with other cheap IOs you can easily have your power slotted much better than SOs or common IOs could ever manage.

If you shop smart, you can frankenslot a build for less than 50 million. But that will require patience and planning. Mid's is a great tool for this.