Miss_Kitty

More info on digital hair!

This is a quote directly from a friend who does 3D modeling for a living. He even played this game for a short time, but doesn't plan to ever come back. Copy and pasted from an instant message for accuracy. Please remember that he does this stuff for a living.

Him> What I should have mentioned, is 3d hair is incredibly easy to make, and hard to style. It depends what form you make work with.

Me> What do you mean exactly?

Him> There's two forms of 3d hair. One which is a prop, an object that's posable and easy to work with but which is comprised of one big object which looks like a hairdo. Or you can make every strand individually and style it that way. The latter is better, it can give impressive results. Like be animated to blow in the wind. But it's hard to style.

Well! There you have it folks! Now we know a little more about what goes on behind the scenes. If anyone has any 3D modeling questions I would be happy to pass them on.

Edit: Apparently both techniques are still "not easy", but the first way is slightly easier to style.

Anime inspired can me literaly anything. From historic samurai armor to incredibly awesome special ops uniforms and whatnot. We might even get some more plain cloths for heros currently not on the job.

Even if you don't like the costumes... Body sliders alone will be worth it.

Ah.. This is the first thread I managed to jack.. if only for a breif time.

I say we start a petition! Also an in game demonstration! Everyone add kitty ears and a tail to your characters.. or make a kitty alt! We will HAVE our cute furry overlords one way or another!

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We really need more Kitten based evil in the game.

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Hear hear! What kind of world is it when adorable kittens can't hold up civilians with SMGs and rocket launchers? A world of kittens WITHOUT access to cute eyebeams of death?

It just isn't right..

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Now I know your lying.

Everyone knows the AV will be Tealeafs Kitty of Doom.

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You caught me! Ok.. I lied about the details, but there are going to be cute and furry bringers of DEATH in the near future! I swear it! The Hell Kittens will be at war with the Space Pirates too.

Gack! Now I have said to much..


Yar..

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Kittens ROCK.

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I trust you to keep this under your hat, but the next big villian group that is coming to CoH is going to be the Hell Kittens. Regular sized kittens talking and walking on two legs. Bosses are supposed to have lazer eyes, fire breath, and subsonic purrs! The AV is supposed to be some sort of giant cat.. or a bunch of cats glued together to make one uber Hell Kitten.

Seriously though.. I figured I could relate some things about the art of making good hair after my first post. Of all the things on a human, hair is the hardest to get right. Sure you can draw HAIR, but making it look real and appealing can be difficult. You can draw bangs all you want, but there is a way of making them look appealing that can't be described in a ridgid set of guidlines(Meaning you are just going to have to practice till you develop a sense for that type of thing).

I can only imagine how much more difficult this becomes with doing a 3D model. I am stuck at 2D art at the moment.. so I won't try to guess how much more complicated it gets.

They could still use a little work, but I thought I would make it clear that I am not condeming anyone who made them. Though I wouldn't mind if some of it was smoothed over..

And everyone knows a little more about digital hair!

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I'd like some new hairstyles as well. My female heroes are on strike because they're tired of the same four options.

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Couldn't resist reading the rest of the thread before replying to this one first.. so sorry if someone has said this(Then again.. I seem to be the only person with this beef)

I would love more hair myself. I will admit.. I have an obsession with hair. The wrong hairstyle on my hero just sort of ruins the whole feeling of the game. Just about all of them are wrong though! Anything with bangs just looks freaky when veiwed from the front. Sometimes I forget and see a lady hero from behind. I think "Hmm.. nice hair", but then she turns around and I am reminded of how badly the fronts of most hairstyles are done(For the women at least.. Never cared to try making male hero). I don't know.. they just look wrong sometimes. ONe of them looks like these big clumps of hair were glued together and stuck on the side of the head.

Maybe I am being overly critical. I am an artist myself.. and I get hung up on the hair I draw. All that I can think to describe it is that some just aren't smooth enough.. or something. They are jagged and spiked in a way that just isn't appealing. I can't bring myself to stick some of the hairstyles on my heros..

If you can't already tell. I am the type of person who spends forever in the character creator.. just trying to come up with the perfect outfit for my newest hero. I recall trashing one concept because I couldn't come up with something that satisfied me.

I actually have a way of getting on railings without the use of a ceiling. I do this with buildings sometimes too. You put the cursor right on the upper edge of what you want on then click. Immediatly start to press forward after that. When you come out of your motionless hover you will transfer onto the ledge.

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Actually, that's one of the things that I said I could still do.

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How do you do that? I wanna know!

In all honesty.. the only reason I use teleport is for character concept. Otherwise the power makes me ill. I didn't know you could teleport like that though. Honestly teleport needs a boost. If the devs aren't willing to do anything more than remove the transfer of motion then I want to have the useless ability of teleporting out of bounds.. I don't see how this harms anyone.. not like it allows you to do anything other than retreive whatever spawned outside the map in the first place.

I am so getting flamed aren't I?

Yep.. CuppaJo is a she.

Jo is usualy used for females

JOE is for males.

Edit: For the person above dwimble.. Red names are for devs and moderators.. and.. well.. Anyone that works for cryptic on CoH in one way or another.

Do we realy need to start up this tired arguement?

You could consider the portals to be like... Sky Raider Enginers.. They are a mob all the same.. they spawn from time to time in specific places. When spawned they create other mobs. If you destroy the portal before it can create any mobs then all is good! As far as I can tell it can't create an unlimited supply. I ran across one in Skyway and when I attacked the portal nothing came out. Last time I did that it would pop out a few Rularuu. I thought it was defending itself. I guess I was wrong.

Those portals are damn tough though. I wonder if they have HP and defense on par with an AV. Maybe between a boss and AV. It can't hit back, but it took a long time to defeat one that was a few levels below me. I burnt through focus chi two times.

Sadly I don't have a tanker high enough to do a full amount of testing, but recent experience shows me that the status effect problem isn't effecting EVERYONE. I have talked to a lot more people since I made my last post and it seems like being held through your status protection is a bug because it doesn't happen to everyone.

Some regeners say intigration fails every time. Some say not.. Intigration hasn't failed me as of yet(I have to keep it on a hell of a lot more now though.. no big deal though). Maybe there is a bug with status effects? It is possible. Still doesn't change the fact that anyone without status protection is now.. well.. :x Doomed!

Oh well.. I can deal. Not like any of my alts were soloable in the first place(except for those WITH mobile status protect).

I don't know about you guys, but as long as this "scouting" is still going on I am smacking these things around a bit!

I will be roaming the streets on Champion with Kitty Dawners taking down ANY invaders level 20 or below! If it is still happening when I log on after this I will hunt down a controller to hold the portals so that nothing can come through anymore(if the rumor that a hold will stop it is true).. then clean up a bit.

Been taking on level 16's solo so far.. pretty easy if I am carefull. Kitty is level 20 now... If I do take on even cons you better believe I am bringing a full team for street sweeping these SOBs

Edit: For those of you reporting being held through your status protection(Intigration.. US.. ect) it hasn't happen to me yet. Which leads me to believe this is a bug with the game if only certain people get it while others don't. I think this makes me perfect for protecting those lower level zones.

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And yes, the Damage Increase is welcome, but the Tanker/Scrapper build discrepancy remains.

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Agreed.. never said it dissapeared myself. Anything that helps.

I should note that.. I can no longer perform the dance of joy. I danced on over to the updated game and broke a leg. Why? Update 2. As it stands these things wont help tankers any bit. Spoke to a few tankers(one was a 29 Inv) and he says that he has suddenly become the first to die on any team mission. As it stands I refuse to play anything but my MA scrapper. Why? It is the only thing that seems to be able to keep up with the changes in issue two.

*Sigh*

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Apart from aesthetics (which admittedly are important), why would someone choose a Tanker rather than a Scrapper

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This is a very good question. Asthetics is one of the very few reasons to pick a tank over a scrapper right now. I personaly believe this is the REAL reason why scrappers and tanks can't combine any melee and defense sets. More on that later though. Statesman is currently trying to do what he can to make it so that isn't the only reason. As States said they still need to do the code for all of this. They are probably buisy trying to make these changes work.

You speak of dumbing down tankers. Sure it does, but I don't personly like the idea of having to pick up a power pool just to perform my main function though. There certainly are diffrent(and MAYBE better) ways to fix that, but I think this is better than nothing.

Same goes with the damage increase.. Better than nothing at all. I personly like both changes just fine. So I will keep rejoiceing!

*Performs the dance of joy*

Oh! Yes.. the real reason scrappers and tanks can't both use any melee and defense set. States claims it is to perserve AT flavor, but I say it is because there would no longer be any reason to play a tank if both sets could use any power combo. Even if it is for flavor.. the fact that there would no longer be tankers around(well hardly any) speaks volumes about what is wrong.

Now all they need is teen models and a tank might become my favorite character!

*Dances*

YEAH BABY!

This is so weird. I just mentioned the provoke on all attacks instead of taunt just a few days ago. I said it made a whole lot of sense because basicly guys would go..

"Hey.. He is beating the snot out of Joe! Lets get him!"

Someone else spoke up and said they have been saying the same thing for a long time. I think this is great!

Slowly building up steam makes sense to for any number of ways you put it. As for everyone wondering how and when.. don't bother.

You should know that devs are sneaky sneaky! They won't give us the exact date. Not untill it is already completed anyway. I doubt they are sure as to the "how" either. As someone else said.. Probably still in the development stage.

Yay! The bubbly side isn't usefull for me, but the gravity side deffinatly is.

Having a bit of trouble in hero builder though. Mostly on what I should take and when really. This an Atomic Kitty's guide helps, but you both have diffrent secondaries than me.

Having loads of fun with repel though..

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Hear hear! Super-Reflexes is for people who don't want to get hit. Resistance and healing is for dumb palookas.

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Nu uh.. It is also for people with no attention span who give up after 1 minute of trying to make a SR build in hero builder. *Sniffle* Not my fault brain no work.

Tis called mind over matter!

Intel.. exactly! Inv Tankers have that weakness because they are all about body.. not mind.

I think what we should be doing first is wondering what the devs are WILLING to do. We could throw all the ideas in the world and it might not matter if the devs aren't willing to make room for them.

I sort of love/hate how that works. On one hand this stop whiners from screwing the game up. The devs won't do things at the drop of a hat from what I have seen. On the other hand it makes them slow to fix what really does need help. That or they might skip over it completely.

Personaly? Just make it two toggles and two passives. I could care less what they replace it with. Just reducing how many REQUIRED powers there are would help so very much.

Not to say that I don't like the ideas. Of all the suggestions i have heard from diffrent threads I like the damage resistance and counter attack powers the best. Particularly the counter attack