MBarUK

Barrage: Quick, Fury builder and about 20 times more Endurance-efficent than Brawl. HJac uses this on Auto-Fire, for all your Fury needs.
Energy Punch: Decent little attack.
Bonesmasher: Gettting into the big boy attacks now. It is a good thing.
Whirling Hands: Not enough damage for me, got it on the Tank, not for the Brute.
Stun: Never had it, never seen the point. There's enough Stun in the other attacks already. Probably more use in PvP.
Total Focus: Big damage, big End cost.
Energy Transfer: Bigger damage than Total Focus, lower End cost, less animation, just a brilliant power. The health chunk taken to fuel it can be dangerous when you get it first of all, but as you're level increases, the percentage of health it takes each time drops, making it more and more viable.

In conclusion, Energy Melee is a single target set. I've taken all the single targetters except Stun. Whirling Hands and I really don't get along, but if I didn't need an AoE on MBar (mainly as an aggro-grabbing tool), I'd probably not have it on him either.

Positron and Synapse have been left in indescribable awe. Next comes that strappy-costumed, red-head Sister Psyche, and her long, repetitive TF. Information here and here.

The level requirement is 20-26, and we need at least 5 people to start. I'd expect it'll take us 4 hours, maybe more. If anyone's done it before, please advise how long it took.

Sign-up below to reserve your place, or just turn up at the lady herself (beside the Trainer in Independence Port) at 2pm on Sun 26 Feb. Multiple teams (if needed) will be arranged then as usual. Any questions, ask away.

Grats to both teams again for successful completion of Synapse's TF. Clockwork King mullered double-style.

Task Force Dexterity invades Clockwork Central and knackers that King fella
(L to R)
Sammeal (Scrapper)
Longbow Colonel (Controller)
Ailwen (Controller)
My big arsed self, according to Zorch (Tanker)
Shadowcaster (Warshade)
Zorch (Blaster)
Arrowsmith (Defender)
Katianna (Scrapper)

Memorable moment:
Heard over TeamSpeak: "OHSHITCYSTCYRSTAL!!!" as I walk up some stairs and straight in a Shadow Cyst Crystal.

Thanks to Tundra for leading Team 2 as Absorbicon, other members where:
StormingPhoenix (Tanker)
Jacob Hell (Scrapper)
Moondog (Warshade)
Force of Will (Controller)
Yuki Kitano (Scrapper)
MidnightThunder (Scrapper)

Sister Psyche (Yes, I'll learn to spell it right eventually) is up for kicking next week. Sign-ups here .

Task Force Cerberus ftw, but in all the rush to get to the Onsalught I didn't get a group photo, and having lead 2 TF's today my brain is too fried to remember what day it is, let alone team make-up. There was two guys who looked similar and ... er ... me ... and ... um ...

We won though, I remember that much.

You didn't sign up in the thread, m'lady ... Warshading again?

<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]Storming Phoenix (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Pinkinatrix (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]Li Sensei (Scrapper)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Moondog (WarShade)[*]Shadow (WarShade)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[*]Force of Will (Controller) or Moonlit (Defender)[*]Leika (Scrapper) or Ailwen (Controller)[*]Longbow Colonel (Controller)[/list]
Ok, remember the plan is to meet at Synapse himself (Skyway City, beside the Trainer in the area) about 2pm. I and a couple of others are running in another SF from 11am, so hopefully we'll be done in good enough time.

I'll sort teams out when we're all assembled, as people have yet to decide what alt to bring, and some may not show, have decided to miss it etc.

<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]Storming Phoenix (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Pinkinatrix (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]Li Sensei (Scrapper)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Moondog (WarShade)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[*]Force of Will (Controller) or Moonlit (Defender)[*]Leika (Scrapper) or Ailwen (Controller)[*]Longbow Colonel (Controller)[/list]
Stoming Phoenix in, Silent Edge out (informed me he couldn't attend).

<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Pinkinatrix (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]Li Sensei (Scrapper)[*]Silent Edge (Scrapper)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Moondog (WarShade)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[*]Force of Will (Controller) or Moonlit (Defender)[*]Leika (Scrapper) or Ailwen (Controller)[*]Longbow Colonel (Controller)[/list]
Thats two full teams signed-up now. Can always have more.

Yes, if your considering Defenses only, Invuln's gonna be End heavy I suppose, with Ice no doubt being worse again. Its the Damage/Taunt auras in the other sets which are the End heavy toggles.

Invuln is worse than Stone (which I see you have at 50) for End?

I consider Invuln to be realtively light on end, as other sets either have more toggles, more End heavy toggles or expensive Damage Auras.

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Are you mad?

The joys of working the night shift, no doubt ...

Edit: Er, no, I'm not coming/going. Thats far too early for me.

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I read this as implying that Brute attacks have Punch-voke in PvE. Agreed?

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Psssst. The thing you quoted issued PVP, not PvE.

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Yes, I know. The taunt effect on Brute attacks was removed from PvP therefore implying that punch-voke on Brute attacks in PvE probably exists and hasn't been changed.

I may be a Brute but I ain't thick.

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I'll be there with either my lvl 17 scrapper (Leika) or lvl 18 empathy controller (Ailwen), I'd prefer to use the scrap but if your short on healers I'm happy to use the cont instead.

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Nevermind the healerness, the controller would be most welcome as only one has signed up so far, and he might be Defending instead. But, as ever, the decision is entirely yours.

<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Pinkinatrix (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]Li Sensei (Scrapper)[*]Silent Edge (Scrapper)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Moondog (WarShade)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[*]Force of Will (Controller) or Moonlit (Defender)[*]Leika (Scrapper) or Ailwen (Controller)[/list]

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IIRC the difference is that the Brutes' Punch-voke is single target and the Tanks' is AoE.

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Yeah, I had assumed that Brute punch-voke would be at least not as effective as Tanker Gauntlet. Still, two inherents for Brutes, grumble, grumble ...

Super Update 2 Turbo Alpha Ex:

<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)
[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Zorch (Blaster)
[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)
[*]Force of Will (Controller)
[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]Li Sensei (Scrapper)[*]Silent Edge (Scrapper)
[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Moondog (WarShade)
[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[/list]13 so far. And it's only Tuesday.

Because of Prize and Chaplain's Reunion Tour, attendance by myself and one or two of the other people already signed-up may be delayed.

As discussed in the above thread, the first CoV TF is planned to be finished in time for the start of my little Synapse run, but if I'm late arriving or anything, don't worry, we'll get there eventually.

Send questions etc. to @MBar in game if you so wish.

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The thing I guess which annoys me is that Brutes get Punch-voke and Fury.

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Are you sure? They get access to the taunt power, but no-where can I find any reference to them having gauntlet/punch-voke or causing more agro than any other damage dealer in the team.

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Aha. Found it:

Patch Notes for 17 Nov 2005
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Several Brute attack powers did not have their Inherent Taunt ability disabled in PvP. This gave them a substantial advantage in group PvP encounters. These powers should no longer apply Taunt to PvP targets:

Dark Melee
Shadow Punch
Smite
Shadow Maul
Siphon Life
Dark Consumption
Soul Drain
Midnight Grasp

Fiery Melee
Scorch
Fire Sword
Cremate
Incinerate
Breath of Fire
Fire Sword Circle
Greater Fire Sword

Super Strength
Jab
Punch
Haymaker
Knockout Blow
Hurl
Foot Stomp

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I read this as implying that Brute attacks have Punch-voke in PvE. Agreed?

If Bridger's out there, could we get some official word on this? It's not the first time I've questioned (or been questioned about) the existance of Brute Gauntlet/Punch-voke.

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Does any one have an idea of what they could change it to? and what do you think of my idea.

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Your idea is good and one thats been proposed before. Depending on the magintude of the Resistance increase as you lose health, it would seem workable, but I honestly don't think we'll see any Tanker love any time soon.

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The plan is to get this finished before the MBar Synapse TF run begins.

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Thanks for the consideration, guys.

Dare I go after 2 TF's in one day? F'ing right I do.

Seethe (lvl 40 Fire/DA Brute) will SMASH for the old boys, if you'll have 'im.

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But nearly every tanker power set has tuants and there is also a power pool with tuant powerers so it dosent seem nececary also tankers are suposed to be damage absorbers, that is what their description says.

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Exactly. As I say, the higher in level you get, the less use Punch-Voke is.

Gauntlet is definitely noticable.

... until you get a damage/taunt aura, then its usefulness declines quite a bit IMHO.

The thing I guess which annoys me is that Brutes get Punch-voke and Fury. Two inherents, including a mind-bogglingly good damage booster, while Tankers get something that decreases more and more in worth the more powers you get?

Meh, the devs don't like Tanks. And while my main is a Tanker, and I still consider myself a Tanker, I've already got two high lvl Brutes. I know which AT I prefer these days.

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If you still have room it would be great if my warshade could join in the fun . He's level 16 at the mo but should get a bit higher by the weekend.

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As with the previous TF, don't worry about the fact that more than eight people are already signed up. We'll get multiple teams going, and I'll balance them as best as I can.

Updated:
<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[*]Silent Edge (Scrapper)[*]Force of Will (Controller) or Moonlit (Defender)[/list]

Thanks for the quick responses, folks. That's 10 so far.
<ul type="square">[*]MBar (Tanker)[*]a @Jumanjimon alt (Blaster)[*]Double Shade (WarShade)[*]Warhead (Defender)[*]Lady Yatta (Defender)[*]Jacob Hell (Scrapper)[*]a @Tundra alt (***)[*]Arrowsmith (Defender)[*]Zorch (Blaster)[*]a @Velinia alt (***)[/list]The people I've *** have expressed that they can bring one of a number of alts. Thanks guys, it may come down to what we need on the day, but if you want to bring someone in particular, thats fine too.

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Ta for organising these MBar - I remember how much 'fun' it can be balancing teams...

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Aye, the teams seemed to work fine on the day. Team 1 were a little behind but I blame that damn squishy Tank that we had.

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Will be there next week as well Mbar trying to keep your [censored] alvive and speed bosting you to hell and back.

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Not to worry, I should have some powers with which to keep my own [censored] alive this time round.