Lord_Apophis

Thank you Devs for a fun night I had stopped playing as much as I usually did, but this weekend was fun for me I loved the event and it also showed that something a lot of us have talked about on the forums (random glowie doors) might not be such an impossibility.

Anyway I liked the casual feel about it, where everyone who could invest a few hours over the weekend could have fun with it all

Thank you guys good work

As for you guys who automatically cry wolf (exploiting calls) well I would say something, but I think States said it all, so move along now I'm sure there are a lot of other silly things you can claim are exploits and cheating.

If you chose to specialise in 1 area of expertise, will you later be able to respec, if you regret your decision??

And if so what of the people who have allready used there 3 respec trials??

It looks good though, Its good to see that you guys in Cryptic are developing more content all the time

This whole clearing of debt is fine, the thing is it only works if you got debt to clear!!!!

Not all people die constantly from sucky gameplay, but actually manage to die only a few times over long periods of time.

Giving influence instead, hmmmm tbh. we all know how bad lvl 30+ people need influence so yea great idea.

The only thing it's good for is getting your TF badges (when thats fixed) and mission badges you didn't get early on.

Ohh and offcourse to hang with your lower lvl. buddies and have fun.

As for making it worth it xp/debt removal/influence... no its not worth it. Unless your one of those players with constant debt that can't do a gameplay session without dying a few times.

Yea Gravewalker you definately madea good argument for your cause I loved how you threw in the definition of Websters there as well.

But lets go with it and say that being on a team meen you gotta bring something to the team. Issen't an SG a team? and dosen't your character bring something to the SG? So by sitting idly by the Train, gaining lvl's you and your partner/s are actually working together.

What I'm after is the degree in which you have to work together in order to be called a team, and how longsighted or shortsighted do we calculate this over?

Issen't it team work helping to bring up your weaker SG members so that they can fully participate and contribute to the grp?

you might [censored] well argue that if a person on a team goes to the bathroom for 2 min he is exploiting becuase he issen't bringing anything to the team in those 2 min. That is offcourse nonsens and none of us would do such a thing.

I simply prolong those 2 min, meaning that since my fellow SG members won't be very helpfull to me with his training enhancements and few slots I/we help our SG team, by bringing his character up in lvl.

if that issen't teamwork. I don't know what is. But then again I haven't looked in websters.

Besides where is it that websters state that in order to be on a team you have to take any action beyond accepting to be on that team?

I know your not working together (accoridng to webster) if 1 partie is passive, but I would just argue that PL'ing is another form of working together bettering your SG, 1 person might be doing the majority of the work atm. but because you don't take part in all aspects of the teams work dosen't meen your not on that team.

Anyway I'm completely off track here, repeating myself making half asss statements ect. but you gottta admit it's fun, and if you have read all of this and especially all of this thread you really need to get a life heh.

Uhh I have another one ok lets say you gotta be a"working together to be on that team ok. So 1 you accept being on the team (working together) you then kill 1 mob with your teammate (working together) get a naccute case of the runs (not working together cause that would be disgusting) go to the can come back 3 days later and disband the grp (working together).

Yay me, now on to the next topic. How to make silly threads go on forever.

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1.) PLing just cheats you out of gameplay fun. City of Heroes is not about just being level 50.
2.) You need time to learn about your powers: their advantages, disadvantages, and which situations to use them in. Also, you will not appreciate your powers if you did not earn them.
3.) I think PLing is only OK if you're using an alternate character. BUT! If you're making an alt, you did it to have more fun with the game again and PLing isn't fun.


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Ok I read the last page now as well hehe, as for the above statement, well fine thats your opinion good for you and all respect to that.

Now could we agree to disagree on those issues? I meen is it possible that out of the 180k people who plays this game some actually.

1. Think being lvl 50 is what CoH is all about and they don't feel CoH has any real content to offer anyway?

2. Using your powers is only a matter of pressing the right button, reading up on mob strength/weaknesses, strategies, powers ect. while being PL'ed will give you a better insight how to play your character then blindly learning by trial and error. Also appreciating a power has nothing to do with earning it yourself or by gaining it through PL'ing, you appreciate the power for what it does, not for how you got it.

3. I totally disagree with you on point 3. I meen when your lvl 50 or 40 or 30, perhaps you find that you want to explore other builds and powers, but why wait 1 month or 2 weeks or whatever before your lvl 30-40-50 and can fully test those builds and powers? Stating that you make an alt simply to redo the same missions over again is just silly, stating that PL'ing is no fun... well thats your opinion.

Ok that was just to show a different view. I fully respect the guy I'm quoting and his Views, but they are his views alone, just like mine are mine alone.

Saying that a thing should be done my way or his way alone is simply stupid, stating something as the only way to do things takes away what MMORPG's are all about, freedom and the abillity to enjoy and have fun exploring that freedom.

Why do some people get a bone up there but.t whenever they see someone not playig the game the way they think it should be played?

I guess it's the same people who are always yelling and screaming about equal rights and freedom in real life, but when you cut down to the bone, you learn, that by Equal rights they meen equal for people like them and by freedom they meen freedom to do what there told and believe what they themselves believe ect.

sad sad sad sad. just let it go. you don't like PL'ing don't do it and don't take part in it.

as for the rest leave it to the individual player.

I am not a PL'er, but only cause I'm the highest lvl in my SG so I PL others and not myself.

Why? well because I'm the highest one there is I'm 10 lvl's ahead of the second highest so in order for me to grp with them on missions I have to get them up there. They are my friends and I want to play with them.

Other then that comparing PL'g with stealing from work is silly. I will comapare it with someone getting help at work vs. someone who dosen't. The guy who gets help might be done with the work sooner, but he will most likely not end up being as good as it as the guy who dose it the "hard" way.

Anyway calling PL'ing cheating is plain nuts. Pl'ing is nothing more then optimal xp gaining for your or that given character at that lvl. How is it done you get help. Now getting help to accomplish something is what MMORPG's are all about.

Thats why you form SG's in the first place to help eachother and have fun together. I buy SO's for my SG members and have spend well over 15 million doing so. Is that cheating? I meen without me there is no way in Hell they would be able to get a full set of SO's at lvl 22. Or get all there SO's at lvl 27 (I have done the class origin quests).

What we do is just having fun helping eachother out lvl'ing getting there enhancements. This has nothing to do with you and saying it reflecs bad on the community is just lame.

I know this post has reached its 8+ page, I haven't read anything but the first page however. I simply had to respond to the OP.

This is a game we all play if for 1 reason only and that is to have fun. How we have fun is up to the individual. some have fun racing for lvl 50. Some have fun exploring every piece of content there is taking it slow. Some have fun chatting, dancing, ect. Others have fun playing with "The Perfect Build".

Its all up to the individual and they all do it for fun. Helping your SG members out is part of that. Helping them Lvl. so they can grp with you is part of that. its friendship its fun.

ok enough rambling, just relax and have a beer, you sound like you need it... or try pulling that stick out your a..