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No TG THAT remark wasnt supportive. Nor do I pretend it was. This however still doesnt take away that I had supported Hammi raids very recently and very publicly. Its last few days I lumped in the feelings I get with community events alike. But I even oddly enough spoke to a new level 50 just minutes ago and said he should go to at least one. So there you have it.

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I dont have anything, what i really got is a whole thread with the purpose of people signing up for a community event and a single individual using that thread to indicate that the community events are a drag and that he might or might not appear depending on the mood doing the community a favour. Thats how it strikes and its the single post in there written like this.

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No your forgetting the fact my PC needs to go back and so is a bigger factor than how I feel on the day. No PC no attendance. THATs what I meant by maybe maybe not. Look at thats post again and you will find I made the feeling about community events as an after thought. Easy mistake to make so well done for pointing it out and giving me the oppertunity to clear that up. I was refering to the unstable PC for which I am posting to you from.

No TG THAT remark wasnt supportive. Nor do I pretend it was. This however still doesnt take away that I had supported Hammi raids very recently and very publicly. Its last few days I lumped in the feelings I get with community events alike. But I even oddly enough spoke to a new level 50 just minutes ago and said he should go to at least one. So there you have it.

But where I was going with that was SO was alledging I said no one else liked Hammi Raids and I said nothing of the sort.

Bye there. All the best from me.

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Thanks for being a shining example of the type of behaviour Im referring to.

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No problem. I'm happy that I could provide you an example of what you are talking about. Now you actually have something to base your accuastions on.

But what else can I say? I haven't noticed any of these things you keep talking about. Community seems to be as nice as ever if you ask me. Lots of great people like TG and Xironia who try to keep the community going. Organizing events like parties and Hammy raids. And even if you don't like them (and I can't understand why not) doesn't mean that others don't.

Theres always going to be few annoying people around and few of those who keep taking things a bit too personally.

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Where did I say others dont like Hammi raids? Where? Tell me please. Im sorry Conjecture Operator... sorry Smooth Operator slip of the tongue there. But if all you can do as you have proven on all 4 of your posts is manipulate (very badly I may add) facts so that info you dont like is ignored and make as much nnsense on my character I suggest you yourself have no case.

I have suppoerted Hammi raids in recent past even on Evo chat just a few weeks ago saying I hope bad run of luck hasnt put people off. Even saying to people Hami raids arent really about HOs (I dont rate them anyway) but about hanging out. Get ypur facts straight instead of looking at my posts, throwing what you dont like put or cany beleive in your closed mind hasnt happended to you. And quit making things up from my posts and making slanderous accusations about me and my character. You know [censored] all about me and my intentions. Bye and thanks for coming.

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you are making the mistake of others readng this and missing out tht I have seen a steady decline.

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You are missing out i have seen a steady positive direction since day one. Whats your point?

I am out of this thread and this is my last post as its obviously going down burninating.

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This isnt a flame I just saying if you been reading this then by now you know my point or should.

You even say yourself its npt what it was 6 months ago so I wouldnt say thats a constant improvment since day one. So I missed it beacause it wasnt clear what you were saying. No insult intended.

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err dude, lodestar, u think that it is just maybe that u r fed up with playin the game so u find a reason to give up?

or maybe just something about the day u feel fedup?

hmm?


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Im a straight forward guy who is very self concious. I often reflect inward not out. If I was to go to a party in a bad mood and not enjoy it then I couldnt blame the guests. I cant honestly think after reading this you would think Im making excuses for being fed up with playing or I would have posted something to the effect of Im leaving as I think I have outgrown the game or wish to try new things. Not blame everyone else who plays it.

That said you dont know me so maybe that was a fair question from your angle and as such Id say its more constructive than one or two others have been.

Again though you are making the mistake of others readng this and missing out tht I have seen a steady decline. And a few things recently have made me sit back and sigh "figures". So while readers of this would still choose to beleive its a hissyfit post on the spare of the moment I gave it alot of thought for 2 weeks or so even after having the feelings I had for months. But as I say. People will read what the choose.

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And the testimonies of my friends mean nothing? You use only the forums as a way to determine the state of play? Id look beyond where your gettin your info. Repeats annoying you? Well no point doing them is there?

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You keep referring to these friends of yours... imaginary friends? Maybe you should get them to write in this thread too instead of just putting words to their mouth. I could also say that I have lots of testimonials from friends who think that the situation is not as grim as you make it seem to be... oh hey just noticed! You CAN read them in this thread.

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Im afriad you are a prime example of the situation Im speaking of. You have done nothing but prove my pint and be insulting at the same time.

We all have something to add to this discussion. What I think you should bring is silence.Flaming has helped your case none. You have continually tried to snipe at me and make unfounded allegaions as to my character for which you have no grounds at all to do. Not a single constructive comment has come from you regarding this and its nopt the first time I have read obnoxious comments from you on these boards.

Thanks for being a shining example of the type of behaviour Im referring to.

And oh wait. I even said I agree that they should post here but you clearly missed that along with the reasons by which they have chose not to.

Well done. Actually met you through Elerith months ago. Huge gratz to you.

Well done Harkat

I too have said they should speak up. That we do agree on. As with most people its just a feeling of fencing in and such. Not on thing but a general thing you cant decribe but you know there. Like when a kid cant get beer as he looks underage. Few years later he is not even challenged. 10 years ferom that he still lokks the same but its clear somehow he is fully mature. Hard to describe and I admit myself it makes it hard such a case. But I think we have all had a simiar situation of it in our lives where something feels wrong. And so to avoid paranoia I asked others. Or they approached me.

As for change well I see little change. I have been pushing for new content and such. Im for change. What I see is stagnation. Its not change Im afraid of at all. As for time on server well. since beginning of April I think is fair long enough and not much shorter than your time. No its not relevent but you brought it up on another forum is all.

Well I guess its all a case of take two of these and call me in the morning as the doctor joke goes.

And the picking at one point of my post continues. So once mor round the block I'll try and take you another route to see if it helps.

The matter of people on my friends list being ignorant was the straw that broke the cammels back and made me think there was something wrong with the community. The months leading toit slowly made me see it that way. Along with other peoples assesment of it all. Was not one incident it has been for some time a growing feeling of constant decline ending in this example. No more true emphesis should be placed on it than any other point made here by anyone.If you think that is the be all and end all of my need to post think again. It was simply an exclamation mark at the end of it all nothing more. And so my post is not speaking of something out the blue. Its been a creeping crack.

If you continue to focus on that example then you are going to think it was out the blue. Its just going to make you feel better about your opinions while no less valid than anyone elses seem to be disregarding details that may alter your standpoint if you were to accept them if only to a lesser degree. As is trying to use excuses like "I have been here for a year with one month off and you have had lots of time off so Im not in tune with my surroundings. Get a clue. Its clutching at straws and the longest time I have had out at once was a forced two weeks. Not long enough for me to become a stranger again. People still recognised me.

Its clear by now Im not backing down surely? And as to why are some of the people I speak of not saying anything mostly its due to reprisals as Im told or that they agree but couldnt waste their energy on this debate as its a lost cause to mkae the tribes change their ways. And thats really sad.

And the testimonies of my friends mean nothing? You use only the forums as a way to determine the state of play? Id look beyond where your gettin your info. Repeats annoying you? Well no point doing them is there?

Its true more will be lost for long standing members id the community goes downhill. But when ego trips kick in rationality goes out the window. Well known fact.

Didnt flame no but some of it has been borderline.

Im afraid TG I am convinced of my claim. Although the title "Whats wrong with defieant today?" is about the numerous problems and was an open invite to air them all as I know I had covered just a few. You STILL zoom in on one part.

Out rhetoricing me really has done nothing other than give support to those who agree with you. And if ths thread is fast degenerating in a war of words then I think that would undermine my view point. In the end dont want to listen? I dont want to talk. Im sick of repeats back and forth. Its getting nowhere.

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Lode posted originally because he was feeling less a part of things on the server as a whole, mainly because people he thought of as in-game friends are actively ignoring him and his requests for teams. The discussion has wandered off topic I feel.

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I think personally the OP created a community issue when there wasnt actually one and overdramatized to a doomsday situation where there is some short of salvation necessary.
Thats my opinion.

And feeling less part of the server cause your global friends ignore means is time to change the global friends list and not blame the community as whole.

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Im sorry you feel that way TG. But it seems you havent taken in much of what I said at all. That other people are getting this worse than me. And some have posted here expressing this feeling.

Also I grow tired of the one example I used as a ignorance tactic as the source of my OP. I felt the need to clarify a certain situation that was being over looked and being compared to situtations where its busy player or just an innocent lul in communication. As I say that was one syptom of what I have been seeing and was not the sum and total of my complaint.

Im not some neurotic drip suffering from hissyfits. If that were the case I wouldnt be talking about it for months with other players. Rather than ranting at first sign of minor hassle (or at least I assume I would do that). I actually thought this through.

Also from your stand point I can see where you thought there was a contridiction in the quotes you took. If Ican simplify I mean I am seeeing the presence of cliques and even clique contests (of a sort) in open events. Not only that but also Ive seen a "get a load of me" from some to get our attention but still manage to exclude the rest of us. Its hard for me to enjoy community events when this is happening. (Yes I know your going to say you cnt see it and some of us can so stalemate again). I would feel better if the regular day to day biz were more open as public events are pouring perfume on the proverbial pig in some cases.

When I see a bit of lift in the stonewalls maybe then Ill feel more at ease. If you dont agree I hope you at least see my postion.

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Many a time now someone asks if they can join us and I have to say 'sorry SG only'. That's not to be spiteful, I am just happy with the close group I have, and know them all so well and know they are great players, like a little family.

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I think you'll find this is the very definition of "clique."

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No a Clique is a group of people that don't ever allow anyone else into their fold. A supergroup is a group of people that expands over time as they meet new people, make new friends.

Supergroups expands, Cliques don't or at least, rarely. Many times I go out on organised supergroup events, supergroup missions, to collect prestige for the group, and this usually consists of a full team of 8. While waiting for one of the group to get a mission from a contact you get someone saying 'can I join your team' to which I reply 'sorry but on a SG only team'.
One, most of the time there isn't room and two, even if there is it defeats the point of going on a 'supergroup' event if your letting other people into it who arn't in your supergroup.

Cliques are not supergroups, supergroups are not cliques. If i'm not on an organised supergroup mission then other people can join, but if I am on an organised supergroup mission or TF and someone wants to join and we say no sorry SG event only, does that make us a clique? No.

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I would no call you or any of your SG cliquey. I do not know you that well. But I do know that both you and Gen have gone above call of duty in helping me out with a matter off game (*cough* DnL).

I myself can be quiet with new people and warm with people I know better. That said Ill just have phases I come out and yammer at anyone. Im no different in RL.

It is noce when you get a regular team SG or friends but I have even then often met someone I didnt know before on team. As you can immagine comfort zones are great eve for me. But maybe because I have unusual times of play or because I didnt team much with one of my first SGs as I managed to out level most of them I am used to making my own way. I still appreciate groups and comfort zones. Having some great SG teams lately myself. But then when does the line between comfort and clique begin? How many of us have done this and not realised? Many would like to think not I. But one must be self aware. Yes societies equal cliques. That doesnt mean we shouldnt try to raise awareness.

Well when all is said and done Im looking at some post and it just seems alot of talk about "I havent had it so its not there" or "No one has complained but you so its non existant". I think back early in this thread you will see one or two and one says he sees a big diff after a long break. Fact of the matter is Im familar with statistic and fact juggling to pretend the crime in the UK and unemploymen are alot lower than they are. Im seeing a situation of that here regretably. I wouldnt mind if people said "I havent had this are you sure?" or "not seen this but maybe others are getting this".

A fact is a fact and no need to throw it out because you dont like it. Lets be honest posts of people who noticed all that I said are being left by the way side. If all the people that spoke to me in confidence or those who beeen telling me well done for speaking up yesterday, came and stood up there are people posting here who would still refuse to see it. Well rose tinted specticles dont suit me, never did and never will. As I have said more than just me here and Im getting it lightly compared to others. I dont beleive Im doing wrong trying to raise awareness and sticking up for the little guy. That aspect of my personality drew me to this game after all.

I forgot to mention in an earlier post Cynic said he hoped people on his friends list didnt think he was ignoring them as he hadnt spoke to them in a while. Well if you are thinking that then chances are you dont come into the ignorant classification. You are being considerate for thinking it. If that makes sense.

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Like I said earlier, I'm an introverted kind of guy.

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Dude Im looking at your avatar and thinking of other outfits I seen Gen in. Somehow I dont think "introvert" is quite the descriptio that fits.

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Supergroup invite spam. A lot of newer players to the game will accept blind SG invites, and learn what passes for normal ingame from people who can be less than polite. Not meaning to be up on my high horse, but I used to think SG's that invite blindly deserve people that accept blind invites - changed my mind lately, however, as many new players simply do not know what basic courtesies used to be present server-wide and are now resigned to established SG's and private channels. There ARE good players coming into the game, of course (TANC has had the good fortune of coming across several of late), but oh so very many are snapped up by supergroups which simply do not deserve the title and are either put off the game or pick up bad manners.

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Good post and spot on Wilf

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I have people on my global friends list I havent talked to in weeks. Why? Because they havent bothered to talk to me. I dont mean the ocasional friend you just dont get around to talking to. We all do that. I mean the people who have put me on global friends and see my chat on two public channels. Most noteably Evo chat and coaltion.

It came clear to me that I was the one intiatiting chat. When I stopped talking not a word was said. Teams were getting formed and mutual friends of mine were getting on those teams and not a word to me. My tells were getting ignored and on one occaision within seconds I saw the recipent of that tell chat away to someone on a public channel. And wasnt long ago I was solo and needed to get on someones team. I asked on coalition and not a word.

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And not once it occured to you that it might be your fault they are not talking to you or taking you to teams?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I still have good time here. Lots of friends and nice community. Sure there are few bad apples around but nothing says you have to eat them. Get the good ones and ignore the bad ones. And for the love of god don't take things so bloody seriously! And that goes for everyone

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Ahain one aspect that can have a dissmissive comment. FFS I just said alot are having this trouble in any case. Just cos you dont have that trouble it means no one elses is?

And to clear somehing up i am here for fun. Not elite groups and ego boosting like I know some do.

And truth be told just cos you dont like my drive doesnt mean I must be at fault. I am describing actual things not figment s of my immagination. Im smart enoguh to see what is baltent what is shyness and what is a possible misunderstanding.

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Same goes to you too. Just because you have problems doesn't meant that everyone else has.

You are here for the fun? So am I. I wouldn't be here if I was having a bad time. And what's that comment about "elite" groups? Making vague innuendos like that is hardly going to lead to anywhere constructive.

Whats wrong teaming exclusively with your SG? In the end everyone tries to get around bunch of people who share similiar intrests, humour etc. SG's are not that different than your friends list. It sounds like you expect people to team/talk what ever with you because you share a friend list? Maybe you just picked your SG/friends badly? And hey! It's not too late! You can always make new friends! Although with that general attitude...

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Talk about the Pot calling the kettle. You jsut came on and insisted there was no problem cos your all cosy. You just wont read the fact I gave exampes of my own heights of bad behaiour. The kinds of things people pull to make themselves feel an elite. And I stated also Im in discussion with a growing list opf people who have taken issue with that aspect of my observations. How many times do I have to say? If it was just me this thread wouldnt be here? Of course that clearly doesnt suit what you would like to think. So off you go picking at a corner of my statements you can manipulate.

Sweet Fa wrong with SGs. Nor do you have toteam with only them. My bes tinmes in this gam have been the late night crowd who make up teams form mixtures of all ATs and SGs.

Not too many seem to have come through pure SG teams first toon. Come second the net draws nearer. I can get this with an elelment beyond out control. But I am not going to say best keep it in the family. I enjoy meeting people. I also solo too if I can as a break. Its about mix and variety. Im not saying stop teaming with your SGs it bad blah blah. Im saying once in a while take a break. Even if you team with other SG members friends that you havent teamed with much thats something.

I have the temprement Ill bail on a team alot sooner than I did when I forst started when I saw things go south. But even after making 50 I made friends not even my leve through Loitering in Atlas and chatiing to people. Exemplering for others just cos I have nothing on.

And this is what I mean. Nothing you may care to manipulate so as to make you have a case. Im talking about giving more people a chance. Im talking about I am actually getting off lightly and Im being told some rather unpleasent stories. I just decided to be the one that spoke up. Im ont an only one. I assume nothing. You will just have to accept it or dont.

But even so just supposing I was for a minute the only one to notice something wrong. That does not make me wrong. Check put the sig I have had for months. Thats the moto I live by. I dont dissmiss or show attitude. That seesm to be the department you work in. Such as [censored] aboput I think a friend list means an automatic team. I said nothing remotely like it. So I dont know what innuendos you speak about. Exept for you own. And dont try flip it back top me and say Im doing it because 1. Your wrong and 2. it does not vindicate you doing it.

What Im trying to say here is its all about balance. Too much of anything can be bad anyway but back on point lets try this angle. How about giving something back to the community that gave you so much by helping others. By looking for keen new players and shpwing them the good side of he community. Some of you did it for me after all. And I have no qualms passing it on. Remember you dont even need to team just chat.

With regards to those being snubbed as I have given an example and I know others of you have ahd your issues. Well like I said. Whis to say its the snbees fault? after all if there is an issue. Shouldnt it be aired instead of sat on? Isnt that the respectable thing to do?

Aerie made a good point. I know myself I asked if I could merge teams and I got a sorry SG thing only. Was a real shame certainly for me thats for sure. But I respected and understood. It was plain and straight. My opinion of Aerie and Generalissimo has not gone down at all if that is what any of you think. But I do think the more we close urselves to our neighbours the worse it wil get and with all respect I dont agree with this way. But I am not dictating to anyone. Hell I chat to them with no probs and I hope this will continue.

Tonight was a great example. A new player came into the SG and we chatted about the basics of the game. And I watched her play with binds and the emptes and she loved every second of it. It was a real pleasure and it reminded me of my first wow moments and also one of my faveourite passtimes as I advanced in level the second time I got into my 20s (Lode has been restarted 3 times before the one we have today) I would take new players to Steel canyon and exp0lain How contacts worked and about Double Origin and Single Origin enhancers in the early hours of the morning. And hopefully a nice spot of exemplering with them.

I hope all of you get the chance to enjoy yourelves with a new player the way Ihave tonight just one more time. It couldnt have been a more fitting night for it.

I dont hate this community. Im very fond of it. Im the one calling a more open community the way it was when I first started. Im the one trying to convince you to find a team once in a small while to see who is worth chating to. Making coalitions with their SGs. I see noting wrong with what I say. I fail to see how I get branded with the attiude. Im wanting a more open and friendly atmosphere for all. Not just me. Still think what you will and twist it how you please. If I lose all respect I had for taking this measure so be it. It was worth it. And at least thise of you who took notice properly can make your minds up what you really think about me and decideding where you stand with me. That I can accept as consoleation.

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I have people on my global friends list I havent talked to in weeks. Why? Because they havent bothered to talk to me. I dont mean the ocasional friend you just dont get around to talking to. We all do that. I mean the people who have put me on global friends and see my chat on two public channels. Most noteably Evo chat and coaltion.

It came clear to me that I was the one intiatiting chat. When I stopped talking not a word was said. Teams were getting formed and mutual friends of mine were getting on those teams and not a word to me. My tells were getting ignored and on one occaision within seconds I saw the recipent of that tell chat away to someone on a public channel. And wasnt long ago I was solo and needed to get on someones team. I asked on coalition and not a word.

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And not once it occured to you that it might be your fault they are not talking to you or taking you to teams?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I still have good time here. Lots of friends and nice community. Sure there are few bad apples around but nothing says you have to eat them. Get the good ones and ignore the bad ones. And for the love of god don't take things so bloody seriously! And that goes for everyone

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Ahain one aspect that can have a dissmissive comment. [removed] I just said alot are having this trouble in any case. Just cos you dont have that trouble it means no one elses is?

And to clear somehing up i am here for fun. Not elite groups and ego boosting like I know some do.

And truth be told just cos you dont like my drive doesnt mean I must be at fault. I am describing actual things not figment s of my immagination. Im smart enoguh to see what is baltent what is shyness and what is a possible misunderstanding.

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I have noticed all the things you have pointed out but to let them get to you is just wrong,you can't controll what goes on in this game nor should you try to, instead do what I do,team and chat with friends dont hang around places where the n00bs spam and talk **** (not that I know you do that but you know what I mean) and if someone says somthing you dont like or acts a certain way just remeber that you dont like them and try and avoid them,even the most experenced members of this comunity can have a bad day or two and seem like they have really bad attitudes.

The only thing that really bothers me about this community atm is that when ever Lui speaks about 20 people jump on his back insulting him and telling him to shut up,which is really out of order no matter what he has done.

Aphex says eat a bannana!

PS:try some rose tinted glasses,they work for me

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I dont think singularly any of it would get to me its when t lumps to gether and well degrades as it were.

I honestly see the off days becoming off weeks and the bad elements getting worse.

I hear you on the blaster guy thung but can I ask you to edit to get rid of his name please? But yes thse who go for him are at least as bad as him. And to me worse really.

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as in real life a difference of a freind an a asossiate often gets confused.

i've have a few real freinds ingame ,i've plenty of people who think global freinds list ="team plz" and use it as a cross over from COH to COV depending whos on.

the other problem is as in real life freinds move on they make new freinds.
apart from avin fun when i log on , i expect very little but am more often supprised.
if i had great expectations i would be more often disapointed.

they cant hurt you, you can only hurt yourself.

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Oh quite true. I am after all a man of the world. And also a buddhist so hey preaching to the converted on that one.

In real life I have peoples numbers I havent called in months and vice versa. Its not big deal thats not quite what Im driving at. Hell some of my closest friends havent seen or spoken to me in some time.

While this is clearly cause fr discomfort for me in particular and yes it is rather personal buit its incredibley insulting also to take one point that I had to make clrea as it was missed and suggest that was my sum and total greivence. Im not such a drip that one thing would bother me and have it put me off playing the way it has.

I merely clarified on thqat aspect as it was continually being skipped over.

Absoloutely good and valid point s to be fair from many of you. I disabled arena months ago on all toons. It also got on my nerves seeing some real suck ups get away with murder and worm their way into decent peoples good graces. I knew then if we accepted that worse was to come.

I find it ironic that in late summer someone sent me a tell saying CoV would be a new start and would bring lots of greatness. I laughed my [censored] off im my chair as I predicted the very thing Im seeing posted al over here. and that was well enough before CoVs release.

Yes some real crotch goblins have got in. But there was assclowns before. Just more of them and they are new. But I have to say I dont think the answer to avoid them is stick to SGs. And in some cases only certain SG members of their own SGs. Is that really what we want? Stick in groups and form tribes? I sure dont.

No more people are teaming with SGs and such because they are being forced into it as a responses to people being tribal. And that worries me greatly. But sums it up. And that is another thing to be wary of.

All said and done I have refered to people that I know for a fact are ignoring me and invite friends I have well before me on an all too regular basis and yet dont say a word to me. Dont answer my tells and cant even be bothered to explain why they cant or wont help me or invite me to team. And if this was just me that was having this problem. Being passed up for teams and not being spoken to. This thread wouldnt be here.

I dont call people who have SG only teams cliques as such though techincally they are. But those arent to what I am refering are blatent us and them groups set up not for cover from fart knockers. Albeit a conveinent excuse.

Im as rational as the next person but I am not going to excuse ignorant behaour. Especially when its all too common. Its tradgic that people will extend a hand of friendship when its not even intended as genuine. These are the real problems Im seeing. And the worst is its from people who been here a while. And its a problem a few have discussed with me in game and some interesting PMs Im getting.

Of course the PMs are actually a mix of differing opinions. But one PM made a valid point which I will answer here. That is that CoX EU is a very good community and playing other MMOs can bring home how lucky we are. Yes true in fact hell with playing them look at their forums. I was filled with dread on Dark and Lights forums. Some very bad characters on there. But the fact is such people are making their way here. And what we have is being broken. and the answer seems to be let it happen and make it worse by fences. And being extra picky. Not that I think that explains alot of what I have been experiancing. I think it would have happened anyway with regard to the arrival of a dampening element of a new crowd.

I should probably cl;ear up one quote that is beiong misunderstood and missused. Now thats not anyones fault. Its me I left a word out being the [censored] I am. When I say I have pointeout cliques on these forums I mean. I have posted on the forums about INGAME cliques. Thats my error entirely.

Sadly some of you are missing the point or forgetting a long running thread that I made about my problems with my PC putting me out of game for days and weeks at a time since xmas. I couldnt plan more time off if I tried. And ironically I notice upon return as I did tonight after a week of being out due to PC issues it grated on my nerves right off the bat.

Since the weeks running up to xmas and now Ive had well over a month out in total including a two week break and when I came back from that did I see a difference. Let me also point out Sars return thread in which he states after being away for 3 months he can see the community gone a bit South.

I have people on my global friends list I havent talked to in weeks. Why? Because they havent bothered to talk to me. I dont mean the ocasional friend you just dont get around to talking to. We all do that. I mean the people who have put me on global friends and see my chat on two public channels. Most noteably Evo chat and coaltion.

It came clear to me that I was the one intiatiting chat. When I stopped talking not a word was said. Teams were getting formed and mutual friends of mine were getting on those teams and not a word to me. My tells were getting ignored and on one occaision within seconds I saw the recipent of that tell chat away to someone on a public channel. And wasnt long ago I was solo and needed to get on someones team. I asked on coalition and not a word.

As I say not nice or polite. But worst of all in my eyes not honest. I have more respect for a certain blasters behaviour than this. And as Im increasingly finding out. Its not just me. Thats not to say my experiances are not forced to be the same as everyone elses.

All I can say is that if people have problems wih a certain player its surely best laid out clearly. We all know where we stand then. Or is it time for the men in white coats to start shouting "Doctor, hes getting out of bed and walking around again. Quick more sedative!"?