LivingHellfire

Oh, so this is more about manners than the actual topic.

Well, since it's about manners, I can see your point. However, I think you'll agree that a certain issue can only go on for so long before the people involved become irritated, can't you?

I'll try to be more polite.

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You also didn't say that you were upset about the change. But I can read between the lines.

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No, seriously... that's not what anyone said, you're making stuff up in the hopes of proving your point.

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Man, I had a friend who was always complaining that I would sign my e-mails "arrrrrr maties!", and I told him I do it cause pirates freakin rule. He said he didn't like it and I should stop. I said I'm sorry, and I'll look into the issue. But that doesn't give him the right to tell me off because I choose to write MY e-mails in a way that's pleasing to me. Same logic applies here.

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Yah, 'cause that's the same thing...

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Yes, welcome to you being angry about them not fixing something that would require altering code in the pipline, thus destroying the entire concept of a pipeline.

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Y'know what, buddy? The pipeline failed. Again. Either they did it accidentally, which I doubt, or they did it purposefully for some other reason. Regardless, the outcome is the same.

I'm sure Jack is happy that you're sticking up for him, maybe if you keep it up long enojgh he'll invite you to dinner or something...

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I call [censored] on that one. I think its about a million times more likely that the Balance Vision thread will be abandoned first. Even if they said that, you, and everyone else who thinks that because you pay money for this game, you get a say in the development and upkeep, would all continue to complain. Period.

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Never said that, again, you're making stuff up in attempt to fortify your position. if you're going to argue with me then at least try arguing with the stuff I've said.

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I'll say it again. He came out, and said they're aware of it, they're looking into it, and he apologized for it. The only thing the devs actually do owe us in terms of communication, might be that they're aware of it.

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If he's only aware of it now, then he hasn't been paying attention, like he says he does. If he was aware of it before then he released it knwoing it was screwed up. You pick.

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Y'wanna know what would make me shut up? If people could have the slightest decency in dealing with the devs. Treat Statesman the way you would treat anyone else you don't know, in person, and I'll leave you alone. But anyone who thinks that they're owed an explanation, or a change, or a list of when changes may or may not be coming needs to learn a thing or two about reasonable expectations.

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Where were you a year and a half ago when I was defending them and giving them the benefit of the doubt and forgiving everything they did? I did that, it got me nowhere and now I'm fed up.

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Either say it or don't say it or just have the balls to tell us "Hey, this is our game, we're gonna do what we want with it. Period". If they said that I'd shut up.

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I'm giving 10 to 1 odds that you wouldn't. Any takers?

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My big issue is that they do one thing and they say another. If they did what they said that I couldn't complain, could I?

Of course not, all you have to do is queu up another attack. The whole 1% thing is pretty pointless, imo.

It certainly won't affect the frequency with which I PvP, which is to say... little to none.

Whether you share his level of annoyance or not, you are A; a paying customer B; paying for testing and C; paying for careful analysis. These are things that you ARE paying for.

Whether you think he's right or not, his statement is accurate. He is saying what HE wants and then stating, quite truthfully, what we are all paying for as we all pay the same rate.

And he's 100% correct.

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Oh boo freakin hoo. I've been playing defective sets since I bought the game, and I never once came on to tell the devs how they better fix it or I'm gonna be mad.

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Nobody said any of this.

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Most of the time, forum goer frustration is due to lack of response on part of the devs, and in the case of I5-6, feelings of mistreatement. So States takes the time to let everyone know that they're aware of the problem, looking into it, and even apologizes, and he still get's flamed for it.

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I have a friend whose late all the time. He always has a good reason and always apologizes, but y'know what? After a while it stopped mattering to me how good the reason was or if he apologized, he's always frackin' late and I got sick of it. Period. Same logic applies here.

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Guess what. It's software. There's a complicated pipeline, and you can't just pull something because there's a balance problem. It's not a bug, it was an intentional change with side effects that negatively affected some players. They never said they wouldn't fix it, they never said they wouldn't look into it, the never even said it was going to take a long time.

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Hey, how ya doin'? Welcome to the topic.

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Just because you're a dedicated player doesn't mean they should stop to consult you every time a change is made. With the responses that they get, regardless of how open or cryptic (no pun intended...maybe) they are being, I don't know why they should bother being open at all. It's not like the amount of flaming that goes on is lessened by it.

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Nope, but it woudl be nice if there was some damn follow through once in a while, or if they actaully said something now and then, instead all we get are equivocations and half-statements like "maybe" and "soon" and "we're looking into it" to shut us up and occupy us with the naive as they insist that we "Wait until they've looked into it" and then when, inevitably, they do nothing about it those same naive people scream about how they "never promised to fix anything" (which is an... interesting choice of words).

Either say it or don't say it or just have the balls to tell us "Hey, this is our game, we're gonna do what we want with it. Period". If they said that I'd shut up. The thing that irks me is the feigned concern about our opinions.

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We live and breathe the tiniest details in your creation for hours on end.
We rejoice in every new experience added.
When you cut off our legs, we will not celebrate when you later sell us a wheelchair.
We are your dedicated players.

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Signature here I come.


EDIT - Damn, too long...

But awesome anyway

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So what are some of your ideas, oh great and wise LivingHellfire?


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How about just reducing the cost of the attacks of the certain mobs that were running out of endurance so fast, hmm? After all, they did say that they made the change to fix certain bosses and EB's, right? So why not fix just those by giving them and end discount?

Nope, couldn't do that. See, if they did that then it would only fix the strawman problem and wouldn't actually accomplish what they're after.

I'll make you a wager, right now. This minute. I'll bet you that when they do "fix" this issue it will be to increase the end drain capability, but that when they do it won't be back to where it was. They'll bring it back just slightly so that it's better, but nowhere near as good as it was. Know what that means? It means it was nerfed. The game is exactly the way it was only a powerset is now less effective, is basically the balance.

I'm betting that they wanted to nerf it, and this kills two birds with one stone by solving the end problems on the bosses, as well as nerfing the powerset, with the added benefit of being the heroes at the end of the day for "owning up" and "fixing the problem". It's classic spin-doctoring, man.

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No, it was a move that had to be made for other reasons that unfortunately affected endurance draining heroes and villains.


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There were other solutions. Take off the blind fold.

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But, carry on. How would you like Statesman to rectify this situation? What would be better for you than a verbal apologize? 40 lashes?

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Heh... right... Better to ask forgiveness than ask permission, right? Know what's gonna happen? They're gonna boost end drain ever so slightly. It won't fix it to where it used to be, to where it should be, it'll just bring it back JUST a little bit so that you and the rest of the Cheering Section can point out how good they are to us.

Meanwhile, they still nerfed us.

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Let's not forget that it was on test for like, 6 minutes before it was jammed through to live.


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I know being an irrational ranter is your schtick, but the patch that included the changes to endurance for bosses and LTs was on test for over a week, actually longer than most patches have been on test that have included far more than that patch did.

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Heh... right on time.

Fine... have it your way. For over a week blaster were posting about it and we were ignored... again...

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He didn't say he didn't see it. He said they're looking into it. And he even apologized.

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EDIT- Removed - No point in arguing this one, it'd be like loading bullfrogs into a pickup.

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2. We'll be putting in a check that prevents "one shotting"; if anything occurs within a fraction of second that brings a player from 100% Hit Points down to 0, we instead give the player 1% Hit Points.

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What about DoT caused by that one attack?


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1. We're looking into the tweak to Endurance for mobs that's affected Endurance Drain abilities. Sorry about that!


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Dude... you can't tell us that you didn't see everyone screaming about it when it was on test. You either didn't read the forums, you didn't listen to _Castle_ or you didn't care. And if it was becuase you weren't here (congratulations, by the way *hands cigar* ) it still doesn't matter 'cause you're the boss and the buck stops with you.

Let's not forget that it was on test for like, 6 minutes before it was jammed through to live.

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Huh, I always imagined CJ with longer, darker hair too. Weird.

But, more importantly, I hate all of you. I actualyl tried to get a few people that were there (logged in CoH for a few minutes) to yell really loudly "Anti-Cat says he hates all of you!" But no one would So I'm saying it now: ANTI-CAT HATES ALL OF YOU! *cries* The worst part is, I found out that Gilgamesh was there. With him, CuppaJo, and Arctic, the room must have been filled with enough aweosme to rival my own. Alexa and Awry.. ehh I'm jsut gonna be here... srying in the corner... don't be alarmed if I'm here for a few months... crying... until Origins, when i get to meet them for myself. Revenge is sweet.

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When/Where is Origins?

I'm thinking road trip...

It was nice to see those picutres and put faces to names.

Aaahhh... the pretty people.

It was also fun to be passing messages by proxy to people like Cuppa. Also, very cool to get phone calls from friends that I'd only ever talked to online.

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I think this sums up my opinion on thread necromancy.

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You're terrible!!

Also, my white/red deck would [censored]' PWN yer *rse!!!

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"There's not enough good chinese restaurants in Paragon City. It's odd considering all the cat girls running around." - Unnamed Tanker roleplaying.

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I thought everyone knew... the catgirls ARE the chinese food...

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It's funnier if you remember that the catgirl meme came from Japan.

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Honest to god, I don't see the appeal of Catgirls, I never have. Anytime I look at one I can't help but picture them sitting on the floor with one leg straight up in the air while they lick their own butts. It's gross.

Catgirls!=Cute.

At least, in my opinion.

My favorite quote from the forums was in a private message from someone with whom I was arguing about blaster squishiness and he said

"If you're on a team and are less survivable than a scrapper you're on a bad team"

I laughed so hard that my brother came into the room to find out what was so funny. Then he laughed for about ten minutes.

From a movie, i don't really have a favorite, but the one I'm thinking of right now is from Fight Club.

Tyler Durden - "[censored] it, man, [censored] Martha Stewart, she's polishing the brass on the titanic, it's all goin' down."

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My Synapse hero beat Arctic_Sun's Statesman hero last night while playing the CCG with about 5 other people. Synapse is a blaster, States is a Tank.

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So, basically what you're saying is that the CCG is absolutely nothing like the MMO?

C'mon, you knew it was coming...

Anyway, that sounds fun. If I get a chance to try it I will, and to be honest, I'm more interested in it now after having read that than I was before. Thanks, Cuppa.

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WHERE ARE MY KILTS????

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/signed

My main is Scottish, in fact.

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Maybe Jack should get off his tukus, and achieve formal F.C. status in the forum by posting his request. Parking at 9999 posts is just wrong.

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He thinks it's irritating people to do this, so, naturally, that's what he's doing.

More than anything else we just miss him and wish he would come back. The only time I see him is the rare occasion when I log in to the game.

.... maybe I should just play more?

I would be remiss to my Lord, His Empireal Majesty of Justice Server, JackZodiac, if I did not mention our desperate need of heart boxers.

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I do like having War Witch in Pocket D though...

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"It's okay...I'm not the designated driver..."

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Bah, she sure is. Hang around her long enough and she'll tell ya she's drinkin some hippie crap chai tea.

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No man...Chai Tea LATTE. It's all in the latte.

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Hippie crap chai tea? I'm in the Army (i.e. I beat hippies for breakfast) and I drink Chai Tea Latte's. Now be nice about beverage insults or I'll club a bady seal and blame it on you!

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Really?

I drink coffee. Black.

'Cause I'm not, y'know... a girlie.

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I think it was a Blood Widow. I was doing a door mission in Bloody Bay with a couple other people and we ended up with a Blood Widow boss - a claws/something stalker-type boss. I was playing an ice/energy blaster. She was +3 to me, +2 to the other players.

When she stealthed and I lost targeting, I hit an insight and retargeted her, ran up, hit build up, hit:

Bonesmasher
Energy Punch
Power Push
Ice Blast
Ice Bolt
Freeze Ray

in no particular order. One of those attacks hit...I have two accuracy DOs in each attack, I had an insight for +25% to-hit buff, and build up for another +66%, and as far as I can tell, my accuracy was floored. She then turned around and two-shotted me.

What's up with this?

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Sorry, more details to follow doesn’t really satisfy my curiosity.
Any rednames who post with a definitive answer will earn 5 cool points.

Thanks

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Heh... yah, right. Same as the cool batman wrap-around capes.

You can find them right here next to the SSOCS.

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I get to kill farting monkeys


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*YOINK!*

Thank you!