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I changed the Saboteur's inherent and I like it. I think it works well for the AT.
Quote:Yes I realize it takes a lot of work but I don't think these set would be that difficult or time consuming to make. The assault and melee sets are already made so those wouldn't be a problem. The debuff sets are mostly made up of current powers, a small portion are unique and wouldn't be that difficult to complete.Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Take a look at the AT list, excluding the EATs only one AT has a truly unique powerset type and it has the fewest powersets of any AT (Manipulation and Assault sets are technically unique but they draw heavily from other powersets). The devs made ATs reuse powersets as much as possible because there is a LOT of work that goes into making a new powerset so it makes sense for as many ATs as possible to be able to use it.
The command sets would probably be the most work but still wouldn't be that bad. Five of the powers in all the sets would require little effort because they are either already current powers or could reuse an animation/effect. The upgrade powers would be fairly simple as well. The only powers that would require a bit of work would be the pets but overall I don't think they would be difficult if they did it a certain way.
I had several ideas for the pets that wouldn't require much work, for example: the companions could use similar costumes like Phantom Army with slight modifications based on the set (ice, fire, etc) or they could actually be elemental beings and reuse certain pets (jack frost, fire imps, etc). These are just a couple ideas that could make the companions fairly simple to make. The sidekick on the other hand I would want to be unique (see my original post) but they could do something similar to the companions if they were lazy. -
Quote:I didn't really want to make the Commander too similar to MM, I wanted to make it unique. I know this would require more resources but I think if they reused too much for a whole new AT, it would be really boring and not even worth making it a new AT.Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Interesting ideas. Some general thoughts:
Commander:
I think this could work reasonably well. My only real suggestion here would be to make the pet sets variants of the MM sets rather than completely new. From a development point of view the pets in these sets are very resource intensive to create (which is why there are so few sets relative to the other types) so I would say MM bet sets where the three blast attacks are replaced with appropriate buff/debuff powers would make more sense.
Saboteur:
Again this has the problem of needing unique sets, admittedly like manipulation and assault sets they would draw heavily from other sets (therefore reusing art resources). However from a balance point of view I don't really see it working. Melee sets are all paired with armor sets for a reason. Melee characters take more damage and are subject to more mezzes. Note that both Dominators and Blasters (who have both ranged and melee attacks) get at least limited mez protection.
I have been trying to figure out how to give the Saboteur max protection. One idea I have is to make it so that whenever the Saboteur debuffs a target, a short duration, low mag protection buff is applied to the Saboteur that can stack a few times. Basically working it into the inherent power, have it give Hold, Disorient, and Sleep protection but I wasn't sure how to explain why this happens.
Those are basically damage attacks that happen to be in the form of a pet, I want another AT that revolves around them like the Mastermind but still unique enough to not be a copy and play differently. The first tier pets are mainly there to help keep you alive and support you. The sidekick is your only true damage pet.Quote:Originally Posted by Vel_Overload
I like the idea of a Debuffing/Melee Archetype. Dominators almost have that niche filled, but it would be nifty. I don't like the Hero idea though. There are plenty of ATs and even powersets that gets pets (Or Psuedo Pets)..
Electric Blast (Voltiac Sentinel)
Dark Miasma (Dark Servant)
All Villain epic pools have a pet.
Storm Summong (Tornado, Thunderstorm)
All Control Sets bar Mind Control
Warshades (Dark Extraction)
Masterminds
And the list goes on to include Traps and Devices.
So ba humbug to you pet-lovers. I eat puppies. -
Commander - Hero AT
Medium Damage (Damage Scale: Melee 0.8, Ranged 0.7), Medium Hit Points (Base HP: 1070.9, Max HP: 1606.4)
Inherent Ability: Tactician - Grants a damage and to hit bonus for the commander and pets for each companion (1st tier pets) set to aggressive. Grants a defense and resistance bonus for the commander and pets for each companion set to defensive or passive.
Primary: Assault - melee and ranged attacks
Secondary: Command - summon and support powers
Assault:
• Earth Assault
• Electricity Assault
• Energy Assault
• Fiery Assault
• Icy Assault
• Psionic Assault
Command:
• Earth Command
• Electricity Command
• Energy Command
• Fiery Command
• Icy Command
• Psionic Command
Basic Layout of the Command sets:
1(1): Call Companions - Summons one companion at level 1-9, two companions at level 10-23, three companions at level 24+. The companions are always one level below the commander's level. The companions have limited damaging attacks but excel at buffing/debuffing and controls.
2(2): PBAoE Debuff/Damage Aura Toggle - Every command set gets access to a PBAoE debuff/damage aura toggle.
3(4): Tactical Training - Toggle: PBAoE, Team +def, +dmg, +to hit, +perception; Every command set gets access to tactical training which buffs the teams defense, damage, to hit, and perception by a small amount. I am thinking around 3% def, 7.5% dmg, 5% to hit.
4(10): Companion Training - Every command set gets access to companion training which grants the companions and sidekick more abilities.
5(16): PBAoE Defensive Toggle - Every command set gets access to a PBAoE toggle that grants a defensive buff (res, def, regen, etc), mag 4 mez protection (stun, hold, immobilize), and additional effects based on the set.
6(20): Confront
7(28): Call Bodyguards - Summon temporary bodyguards that take a portion of the damage for the commander. They can't be attacked, they can't attack directly, and they can't move but they stay by your side for the duration. When you are hit they disperse a small (10 ft) nova blast of damage with secondary effects based on the set (5-6 second cooldown). The commander also gets temporary knockback protection (4 pts) while this is active. Looks like two floating orbs of energy (effect based on the set) that orbit around the commander. 30 second duration, 2-3 minute recharge.
8(35): Call Sidekick - The commander calls his number one fan and apprentice to come and fight alongside him. The sidekick is always one level below the commander's level. I would like to include the option to create the costume for the sidekick or maybe do some sort of doppelganger feature but make it the opposite gender.
9(38): Companion Upgrade - Every command set gets access to companion upgrade which grants the companions and sidekick more abilities.
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Saboteur - Villain AT
Medium Damage (Damage Scale: Melee 0.8, Ranged 0.5), Medium Hit Points (Base HP: 1204.8, Max HP: 1606.4)
Inherent Ability: Affliction - The saboteur loves to cripple enemies and watch as they suffer. The saboteur's mind is cleared and focused on his victims, their suffering empowers him. Nothing will keep him from enjoying it. Each time the saboteur debuffs an enemy (with a primary power), the saboteur gets a damage buff and protection from holds, disorients, sleeps, fear, and confuse. The duration is based on the duration of the debuff and gives 5% damage and 2 mag mez protection, stacks up to 3 times. Cannot get more than 1 stack from a single power, using the same power again while the buff is still active will reset the timer for that buff and not grant a 2nd stack.
Primary: Debuff
Secondary: Melee
Debuff:
• Radiation Emanation
• Poison Epidemic
• Dark Enfeeblement
• Thermal Debilitation
• Cold Desolation
• Sonic Dissonance
• Gadgets
• Mental Debilitation
• Energy Siphoning
• Electric Discharge
• Pain Emission
Melee:
• Katana
• Broad Sword
• Claws
• Dark Melee
• Electrical Melee
• Martial Arts
• Fiery Melee
• Dual Blades
• Ice Melee
• Energy Melee
• Spines
• Kinetic Melee
The debuff sets are all debuff/control (no heals or direct ally buffs). I made powers for all the sets I listed but I am always going back and tweaking them. The final power in most of the sets are short duration extremely powerful debuffs with long cooldowns.
The numbers are of course not set in stone and I actually go back and tweak the ATs all the time but I finally decided to just post them anyway for feedback. -
Stay in bodyguard mode! (defensive follow/stay)
Bodyguard provides amazing protection with the damage split between all your pets. It can be dangerous and less effective in the early levels but it still works pretty well. -
Maybe they could keep the original aspect of TP Foe but have it teleport the player as well. The player selects a spot for both the player and foe to teleport to. The foe would get a -Fly, -Teleport, and possibly something else to keep them in place shortly: slow, immobilize or disorient. I'd suggest lowering the endurance cost, cast time, and range as well with these changes making it more combat friendly.
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Here's my suggestion for improving Defender's inherent power Vigilance. The current vigilance gives defenders no benefit when soloing and rewards them for not doing their primary function. They get a bonus for allowing their teammates to get injured. Although the endurance discount is nice when the team gets overwhelmed, it should not be the main focus for the inherent.
First off, when soloing allow the defender to be included into the calculations for the effects.
Adjust the endurance discount a bit, slightly lower so the max effect received would be ~60%.
To encourage supporting your team and keeping them healthy, include a small damage bonus (10-20% range) for the defender which scales with team health, the same mechanic as the current effect but reversed. The defender receives the full benefit when the team is very healthy and the bonus degrades as the average HP of the team drops.
The reasoning behind this is that the defender's moral is up when the team is healthy allowing him to focus and do more damage. When the team starts to get hurt, moral drops but the defender is able to look deep within himself and rise to the occasion. The defender saves the team and boosts moral again.
This same concept applies to soloing as well, the defender has high moral when he is healthy allowing him to focus. When he gets injured, he loses moral but is vigilant and able to activate powers at reduced cost. Allowing him to recover and boost his moral. -
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_Castle_ ? Wish list? Puleeeeeeze....?
I want an archery/archery blaster. Plain and simple. So I can use my secondaries and not put away the bow, which looks incredibly stupid.
Or make it so that the devices animation is synergistic with archery. You throw grenades with one hand, why can't you just keep your bow in the other?
But I really, really, really want an archery/archery blaster. Until you give me one, I'm going to continue playing my gimped TA/archery def, slotted and played like a blaster. So, there. [whimper]
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I went with your idea: New Blaster Secondary: Bow Mastery