Jade_Warrior

True - doesn't mean we speak for everyone, and doesn't mean we should refuse to listen / ignore those people who feel they have an opinion that need to be aired.

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Complete lack of structured argument to support OPs original demand/suggestion.


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It was a demand

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In your opnion.

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That is the point of this thread - we NEED either a server transfer service or a server merge.

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You might, I don't. See ya.

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As i said - thats the point! Those of us who want out can't get out.

This is a request thread - please can we have a server transfer tool.

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Errr no, As NC are legally required to separate the servers in the first place it seems highly unlikley

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Errr - so what about the transfer of toons from the US to EU?

That happened. Therefore the reverse should also be possible.

Jay - there is a body of evidence that is showing a decline in the number of users logged into Defiant during "peak" hours.

And are you saying that some of use arn't seeing a decrease?
So all these "goodbye" threads that have been started in recent months - are they ghosts?

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That is the point of this thread - we NEED either a server transfer service or a server merge.

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You might, I don't. See ya.

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As i said - thats the point! Those of us who want out can't get out.

This is a request thread - please can we have a server transfer tool.

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Send me on the way to get me away from you lot. If you refuse to see that there is something wrong then I am better off away from you.

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OK, bye bye

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That is the point of this thread - we NEED either a server transfer service or a server merge.

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Point in fact, if the EU numbers were low enough to justify a server merge then it would either be in the pipeline and up on the announcement threads and the updater, or already been done.

It hasn't.

One question, do you have exact figures including people on hide for any consectutive period of time?

I'm not talking logging on and checking at 1pm every day for a week, I'm talking average numbers and hours played over a period of 3 months.

Your answer - No, you don't.

NCSoft EU do have those numbers, those numbers tell NCSoft EU that a server merge is not needed, nor is a transfer to the US.

Querto Ergo Sum - It's not neccessary, it's not needed, and you are wasting time demanding it.

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Pure assuption and guess work.

Only the Devs have the figures. And they aren't sharing them.

We can only go by what we can see - and some of us see a decline in acutal players logged into the game. Fact.

We don't see the figures - Fact. Fact - you're assuming. Assumptions lead to poor choices, and are not a good place to make your stand from.

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Send me on the way to get me away from you lot. If you refuse to see that there is something wrong then I am better off away from you.

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OK, bye bye

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That is the point of this thread - we NEED either a server transfer service or a server merge.

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Edit: Please do not change the title.

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Make me.

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I think the supervillain death ray ultimatum was better

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I don't think the OP did.

Rapthorn - you are too aggressive. Please tone it down.

We are all entitled to a point. Some people may not like / want to hear the point but it must be said.

If we all stick our heads the sand and pretent the game is the same as in issue 1 then nothing will ever change.

Why?

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That's a demmand, not a suggestion

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And your point?

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That it should be in the the "Player Demands" section, not the "Player Suggestion" section

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There is no "demands" section - so this will have to do.

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Well, it could be written more as a suggestion than a demand

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Why?

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On Freedom, quite possibly - on the others, not so likely. Freedom is not a typical American server

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And what is a "typical" server?

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The nine other ones that aren't Freedom or Virtue

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But then - I would guess that some of those servers are under populated - therefore they could not be considered typical

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That's a demmand, not a suggestion

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And your point?

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That it should be in the the "Player Demands" section, not the "Player Suggestion" section

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There is no "demands" section - so this will have to do.

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On Freedom, quite possibly - on the others, not so likely.Freedom is not a typical American server

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And what is a "typical" server?

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We've had this discussion before:

Freedom and Virtue are anomolies, most US servers are comparable to the UK ones. Peak time numbers on US servers are irrelevant to the majority of EU players, as they don't play at US peak times.

And I personally have very little trouble getting teams, on Defiant, which if you listen to some people is empty.

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Not said empty. Just not as busy. Merging all servers together would benefit the player base across all servers, and reduce overheads for the tech people.

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If your going down that road, lets take the time difference into effect shall we..Here on this side of the pond we are getting into the peak time of play for this game, while over the other side we talking 5+ hrs behind so middle of the work day or earlier depending on coast so why not check back on those numbers when its Pinnacles peak playing time!!

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Good point!

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You'll have to be up all night to be around for the American peak-time period

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And if we were what sort of numbers would we be seeing in the US? 900+??

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That's a demmand, not a suggestion

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And your point?

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If your going down that road, lets take the time difference into effect shall we..Here on this side of the pond we are getting into the peak time of play for this game, while over the other side we talking 5+ hrs behind so middle of the work day or earlier depending on coast so why not check back on those numbers when its Pinnacles peak playing time!!

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Good point!

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And if Pinnacle has 117 on right now, does that mean Union is twice as good as an American server?

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Could be. We are British after all. But - numbers don't lie (unless you spin them) and the some US servers have more players then ours for long periods of the day.

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Well, you're not actually trapped here, you know

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Yes we are.

We can't take our toons with us - therefore they ARE trapped.


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Well, sacrifices must be made on the way to paradise

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So I'm expected to lose 4 years worth of Vets - Vets I've worked & paid for.

Sounds more like castration.

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At this moment in time there are 531 people on freedom

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And Pinnacle has 117 right now

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So you have a US account.

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Well, you're not actually trapped here, you know

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Yes we are.

We can't take our toons with us - therefore they ARE trapped.

I await your apology.

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Question: If there was nobody about to hear a door slam, would it make a noise?

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Only the people in the Forum it seems.

How about - lurking in the forum all day.

Earns you the following tiered badges:
"Gossip"
"Hot air"
"Windbag"

Nice answer - very Yoda - and a good point.