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Originally Posted by Cold_X

I enjoy watching people judge others on their own internal definitions of morals and fairness.

If you don't like people running AE to level, don't.

There is obviously a clear majority of folks who don't, so just team together and shut up already. "I think you make too much exp running missions, and would like the same exp for standing chatting with friends. Because someone passed me leveling while they were slaving away in missions, and frankly, that just has nothing to do with me, but thoroughly bothers me."

What a bunch of retards.

Originally Posted by Slax

No.

dUmb is running it's own league.

Originally Posted by aliona

yes, the double account to escape a bad situation is legit.
Using hiberquit to leave the game and get a fresh 20 second countdown with unrestricted movement to escape your **** beating is an exploit.

Originally Posted by pixel

they should make it work like phase shift, where if an opponent logs out, then you can log out, and beat their *** on the login screen.

Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic

I posted over here in regards to this :: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...04#post2767204

It's pretty clear that the Exploiters have more man-hours to putting into finding exploits than the DEVs have to stop them.

Cutting XP doesn't solve the problem - just the leveling problem.

Based on your comment here ::



I can see why you are defending "ticket farming" and the exploits related to that.

Well, "ticket farming" is exploiting the system, so if you really want to stop the exploits then it should be done across the board.

To stop "ticket farming" from influencing the rest of the game, ticket sales of all non-AE related items needs to be stopped. This means that tickets could only be used to purchase unlockables and badges.
I'm all for that.

Now back to the "farming" issue.
I am against "farming". You can't separate good farming from bad farming; there is just farming. Farming just for salvage, enhancements, or recipes isn't any better than farming for xp and most of the time level 50 farming involves xp farming for lower level characters.
Farming is an exploit issue that has plagued this game probably from he very beginning (it was around in issue 1!)

I would like to see a system implemented that curbs all rewards for missions repeated during a 24 hour period. Much like the merit system for taskforces, this would "convince" players to run varied missions rather than allowing exploiters to find "certain" missions and run them ad naseum.
Diminishing returns seemed to be the Taskforce merit solution.
I'd be all for seeing the first run being at 100% rewards (all rewards), second 50% rewards, more times gain 25% rewards. This would be for XP and all "drops".
I'd make this regardless of who the mission holder was. If a player (account, not character) runs the same mission more than once then this system would kick in.

I'm not trying to take away anyone's right to "get stuck in a time loop" and run the same mission over and over again if that is REALLY what they enjoy doing in the game - but I am against the excessive rewards that the exploiters that do this gain.

And yes. Farmers are exploiting the game. Missions are not "intended" to be run repeatedly for some increased gain. If you are doing something that "is not intended" and/or to yield "excessive gains" then you are exploiting the game. Since the sole reason that farmers are farming is for the gains and and missions are not "intended" to be run multiple times in succession - it seems pretty obvious that farmers are exploiters - pretty much the first and foremost exploiters of the game.

Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic

Or maybe you should pick on someone that has a chance of defeating you rather than beating down someone that apparently can't defeat you?

In my experience in PvP Zones often times those that are nigh-invulnerable won't fight with others that are in the same position. It appears that they would rather "beat down" those that have no chance of defeating them.

It seems like a very good balance to allow those that have no chance of defending themselves - let alone defeat their opponent - to get away.

It's a risk versus rewards issue.
Obviously, some PvP toons have "very little risk to no risk" to gain their rewards.
Other PvP toons have "little to no chance of been anything more than rewards for other players" (aka "they are all risk and no reward").

If you want to drive even more players from PvP, then fix this "exploit". I think there are hundreds more exploits that need to be looked at and fixed before this one - that includes others exploits in PvP zones.

Originally Posted by Aliona

Waaaaaahhhhh!

Originally Posted by Aliona

Logging out of the game for two seconds to escape defeat is a ridiculous exploit.

Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5

It wasn't a problem with farming but with exploiting, so calling this a nerf (in the pejorative sense of the term) isn't accurate, now that I think about it. A fix sounds about right.