JBrustlin

Chiming in - also cannot order the Origin Pack.

In regards to my previous post...

If I came off as crotchety, I apologize.

Newcomers - please do stick around!

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You also assume that the rewards will go on ad infinitum. How many more perks do you think the devs can actually come up with? Seems to me they're starting to hit the bottom of the barrel of new ideas.

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I already mentioned having the new rewards stop was an acceptable alternative to me, and a bunch of Veterans cried out "No, that's not fair!"

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See, here's where I agree with you in regards to your mentioning the years worked at a company is not an accurate analogy. Some companies do have some limit to employment (i.e. forced retirement), therefore there's no need to come up with fancy watches or somesuch for 60+ years of service.

But consider that - - there's no need for it.

Here in CoX, we have people still playing who were in the beta! And they're still here!! And we're not being forced out!!!

So, really, the only time the Vet Rewards should be cut-off is when the oldest player finally leaves.

But to have them cut-off so newcomers can catch up?? Newcomers who may not even stick around anyway for the entire time??

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"No, that's not fair!"

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A vet reward system is SUPPOSED to be non-inclusive, that's why it's called a vet reward system and not a "we're giving all the rewards to everyone at day one just because you stamped your feet and complained" system.

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I am now far more bothered by the twisting of my statements into "everyone should get everything right now" than I am by the Veteran's Reward system. I never suggested that.

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Sorry, perhaps I'm being dense here. If I understand correctly (and I may not; see previous disclaimer), the feeling is that newcomers to the game will be discouraged to learn there are certain items they won't get for, say, 5 years of play.

But isn't it actually the opposite? Wouldn't a newcomer say, "Wow; that's a pretty nifty 5 year item. I'll need to keep playing so I can get that!"

After all, consider that newcomers KNOW what they'll get. Us old-timers are constantly in the dark - - I have no clue what the Vet Reward will be for 120 months. But I certainly expect to be here to find out!

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If you've played for 63 months and you don't know these maps well enough that you have to use a power to clear fog of war... I dunno what to say.

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I do - - "Welcome to my world!"

Got the 57mo Vet badge, so I just tested a costume change on a character on Pinnacle. Sure enough, it gave me 50% discount on cost. It also gave me the option to use one of my FREE tokens. However, it did *not* give me the option to use one of my ICON Day Job costume tokens (which supposedly gives a 25% discount). I know the Day Job tokens worked before, but now with Abiding I can't access them?? What's the motivation for a 57mo Vet to get the ICON Day Job then?? (aside from the dual-Day Job accolade, of course...)