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honestly i think its more about skill of the players

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No. As my last post pointed out, it's not the makeup of the team that matters. It's how well the team functions together to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses.

"Special Build" teams, merely make things EASIER. But, if you have any of the problems I outlined above, you're STILL likely to be boarding the fail-boat.

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There's plenty of leeway for what's "required". Although I will say that the last mission is still a harder encounter than the STF provides, so there is less leeway.

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the thing about STFs are tanks do it better, a tank can tank better than a brute, its how it goes, problem with the STF is you fight 4 lvl 54 avs at once one that can instant heal from 0 to full if 3 to 4 targetable things are around her, an aoe that almost one shots everyone, a AV that is highly resistant to taunt.

but a tank with buffs has no problems, with higher base hp and higher base res/def its not that big of an issue, if you build a speacial team its a cake walk same with LRSF, we used to do 1 stone tank 1empath 1 kin 3 rads 2 blasters for our 45 min STF than one day me and another guy decided to do WP tank 2 colds 2 sonics 3 blasters, that thing was a cake walk talking 40 min to 35 min average a night.

Special teams make everything easier, but are not required

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is this a serious discussion?

The LRSF and STF are two of the toughest challenges in the game

or along those lines of the loading screen tips

In my humble opinion...the kills should be in this order:

Numina, Sister Psyche, Positron, Synapse, Citadel, BaBs, Manticore, Statesman.

Despite that...after Positron, you can pick who you want to take out next, the 3 biggest threats will be down.

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hell last night we did synapse, numina, positron, citadel, sister, manticore then statsmen.

someone pulled synapse and in the middle of fighting him numina, postrion citadel and sister all came over we beat them then killed manticore than statesmen.

I mean if i can form a team out of who ever is in RV at 12 at night bring zero rads no colds, no stone brute, no shivans no nukes, and be the team leader as a stalker you people have nothing really to complain about.

If you cant do it straight say i cant do it, i been on 7 man teams with no brute 2 mms and 5 corrs i have done it corr less i have been on all mastermind teams i have only failed the RSF once, the longest it has ever taken me is 2 hours.

The stf pug teams i have been on have taken 2 to 3 hours and have failed more than that, but then again my SG used to run them in 45 mins or less, i have a screen shot of us finishing it in 38 mins. Our SG invited the entire Dev staff to join us on one, only one actually wanted to come.

If you fail at the RSF, try harder? i mean bring nukes and shivans if you want but i never do, and when CoR comes out my stone tank will be red side with my WP tank so ill help ya then

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Illusion is such an unusual set even on Controllers that I really doubt it'd end up on Doms in a recognisable form. We've got a better chance of seeing a modified version on Masterminds.

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didnt a dev say they were workin on that

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They might have mentioned that illusion would need changes to go to Doms, I think wording it carefully so that it doesn't mean they're necessarily working on it. They like to surprise us.

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i remember them saying it was going to be for masterminds

honestly i think its more about skill of the players

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Illusion is such an unusual set even on Controllers that I really doubt it'd end up on Doms in a recognisable form. We've got a better chance of seeing a modified version on Masterminds.

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didnt a dev say they were workin on that

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G'day.

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hows life?

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As long as half the team is corruptors, you're fine, right?

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2 kins 1 dark and a thermal

it was who ever was in RV at the time

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'sup

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nothin much

I just finished an RSF with a pug

im a stalker 4 corrs 1 widow 2 brutes neither was a stone brute

0 nukes 0 shivians

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This is the only one that I fully agree with:
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-- Illusion Control for Dominators. Sorry. It just doesn't mesh well with their inherent. And it's just not personal enough for a Dom. :3


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Illusion would be a craptacular set for Dominators, and as soon as the new Shiny Shiny wore off, people would start screaming for the devs to "fix" it.

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I disagree. Phantom Army and Phantasm's Decoy Phantasm would give Doms a means to keep PTOD equipped EBs from killing them.

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too bad domination would only affect flash and blind

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It seems they can't type legibly.

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You are a very mean person

i r confused

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Anniversary doesn't need to mean CoH Anniversary. It also applies to the Anniversary of burying Hero1's time Caspule, which is a plot point of the new TF/SF.

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go away

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Yeah, stupid reasonable people not participating in either the humor or drama parts of the thread. How dare they?!

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exactly!

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Anniversary doesn't need to mean CoH Anniversary. It also applies to the Anniversary of burying Hero1's time Caspule, which is a plot point of the new TF/SF.

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go away

STF is easier to me, only cuz i done it over 100 times and probably failed 15

LRSF i have never failed but only done it about 20 times

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i wonder if the names Lord Mako and Cap'n Recluse are already taken on my servers of choice?
brb

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Dibs on Ghost Scorpion!

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pfffffffft watch out for Lord Ghost Cap'n Black Scirocco

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They should name it Issue 15: MoldyLunchboxx.

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Nevermind. This is a horrible idea.

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I like it


We should call it Issue 15: Bannings on ice!

or Issue 15: I like waffles

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I can never get an ITF started that lasts. The team I had quite AT Romulus pt 2. SOOO PISSED.

Sidebar: how do you get the team mates names different colors?!

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its in options some where

i once did a ITF in 45 mins with about 90 deaths, it was super fun and crazy

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I have been on many STFs before and I have never seen him behave anything even close to how he was this morning.

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not enough debuffs, it happens

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More exploitable than Battle Maiden, yes.

That's the point though - exploits *break the game*. They give an unfair advantage in whatever form (influence to spend on io's, badge accolades, whatever) to people who do them, above those who choose not to.

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Having 20 things aggroed to my tank as my team took them out was an exploit?

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No, having tanks *herd the entire Brickstown map of 5th into a dumpster* WAS.

Having watched that, been told as an emp/dark defender "we don't need you, go away" or merely, "don't do anything, just stand there, I'll take care of this" - both of those are insults.

Both of those were *broken*. that's why that was changed. The glory days of dumpster tanking are over and have been for more than half the game's history now.

We have *better* tanks, now. We have *better teams* now, with powers that a fire/fire tank didn't even dream of before ED and the rest of the changes.

Way more fun powers, and what's more, "fun" includes *everyone on a team regardless of their power choices*.

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I didnt say whole maps, maybe they should of made the AI smarter not just put caps on things? make mobs only follow so far?

my example is not an exploit but was changed anyways

pay more attention

and stop trying to shoehorn your fun into my fun, if you didnt find it fun dont do it, the tank that did herd that much found that fun. Do i agree you should be able to herd entire maps alone jump in a dumpster and put burn with no risk, hell no, but if i had a sonic defender now an empath and herded lets say 50 guys into a room that would be an exploit if i could do it?

stop being obtuse and see it from someone elses point of view

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the best way to fix farming is to shut down the game



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Right: except that it's not farming they're trying to stop, it's *exploiting* something to use in a farm. Big difference.

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Timmed missions, caps on tickets even though i can make more than 1500 in a single regular mission, changes to mobs too many to name, aoe cap, aggro cap, alot of this stuff was to stop farming.

Having 20 things aggroed to my tank as my team took them out was an exploit?

if you think they allow farming as long as its not exploitative you are dead wrong, they just cant stop it

With AE leveling crazyness it needed to be nerfed but don't fool yourself if you think they dont have a problem with farming

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Wow, where were you all those times that people were saying that the Devs never said or did anything AGAINST farming, so they must think it's okay?

[/ QUOTE ] They still haven't done anything against farming, just what they consider exploits. Some farms, like Battle Maiden, have been around for years without a word or action against it. So it is reasonable to conclude that you can still run that one all you want because it is not an exploit.

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wolves and dreck? same thing different mob?

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It took me over 500 hours to get my fifties, and I enjoyed them that way.

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Good for you. Unfortunately not everyone is you. Different people, different desires, abilities, needs and wants.

Newsflash not everyone wants to take 500 hours slogging through low level content to get to 50.

I'll let you on another little secret, If I had of thought after doing it that way once I would have had to do the same again, I would have switched to online battleship immediately. People talk about burnout from leveling to fast, well its nothing compared to the mass exodus you would see from the other extreme.



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I guarantee that if a player spent 500 hours before hitting 50, it was NOT all spent on that character. If by some tiny chance it was, they must have been actually not playing any content. They must have spent the time doing costume contests or something. If you're playing the regular game, on heroic, you'll 50 long before 500 hours have passed.

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or farming retarded badges to get accolades, *cough*born in battle*cough*

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the best way to fix farming is to shut down the game



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Right: except that it's not farming they're trying to stop, it's *exploiting* something to use in a farm. Big difference.

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Timmed missions, caps on tickets even though i can make more than 1500 in a single regular mission, changes to mobs too many to name, aoe cap, aggro cap, alot of this stuff was to stop farming.

Having 20 things aggroed to my tank as my team took them out was an exploit?

if you think they allow farming as long as its not exploitative you are dead wrong, they just cant stop it

With AE leveling crazyness it needed to be nerfed but don't fool yourself if you think they dont have a problem with farming

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Wow, where were you all those times that people were saying that the Devs never said or did anything AGAINST farming, so they must think it's okay?

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i said they never straight up said YOU CANT FARM, they just nerfed everything.

i had a problem with the lack of communication from the devs on the issue

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