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Quote:It was/is also entirely possible to make a werewolf character before this booster pack comes out. You know how I know? I've made and seen 'em in the game.Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I vehemently disagree. It was entirely possible to make a cyborg prior to the booster pack, it was entirely possible to make a mad scientist prior to the booster pack, it was entirely possible to make a ninja prior to the booster pack, and it was entirely possible to make a wizard prior to the booster pack, which I won't bother linking to, since that one has about three kajillion possible permutations.
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Quote:Because the people who made the tail are the ones that fix bugs... right? RIGHT?!?Originally Posted by mercykilling
*shrug* I -am- all for listening to the playerbase and trying to appease, but....when game bugs and glitches that have been around forever (and asked to be fixed for just as long) gets pushed aside just so some people can have a freaking furry tail to add to their characters......it saddens me.
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Quote:Do you honestly thinkOriginally Posted by IanTheM1
I'm also still a little shell-shocked that people immediately praised Jay and David for listening to what they wanted (and that is great, and David's overall level of communication has been top-notch), but they glossed over its presence in a booster pack they otherwise didn't like or were already going to buy. In other words, everyone asked for a "Beast Parts" Booster Pack, and what we got was a single piece tacked onto an unrelated pack. I don't consider those to be the same thing.
a) that the tail was made in about a week, just in response to people complaining
b) that if you believe "a)" they could have made an entire animal part booster pack in time for the pack to go live?!? -
Quote:I have such an amusing image in my head that goes with this post.Originally Posted by Sapphire7
*deep inhale* SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Thank you David! Thank you Sexy Jay! Thank you thank you!
I had no idea I would be this excited about one piece. Yes, I've wanted more animal bits for quite a while, but I thought I'd just be like "yay!" - but no! I am all atwitter over just this one piece! I've had a character idea mulling around in my head for a while but was unsure what direction to go with her, and seeing this, now I know! THIS IS SO AWESOME!
It involves much runing in circles, jumping up and down, and waving of arms/hands...
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Quote:Yes, but I said it with "!!!"s and "ALLCAPS" mockery.Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
That is what I said.
Btw, nice move by Jay and David. Well played...
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Quote:Given that the "OMG teh mutant booster ISN'T AN ALL-ANIMAL-PARTS BOOSTER!!!" outcry is only a few days old, and that it certainly took The Sexxy One longer than that to make the tail, I tend to think that the "Jay hates Furries!" notion is a bit overstated.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Thank you for convincing Jay to get over his 'furry' phobia.
I'm not sure what it took, but, eeh...like I mind? heh heh -
Quote:Davedemona?Originally Posted by David Nakayama
Thanks for saying so, but I've got a new avatar coming, and it's not Statesman. Something cool and GR-related.
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Quote:Originally Posted by David Nakayama
Dude, that's what Beta's for.
Before the actual release, there will of course be plenty of preview material. Remember that you guys are seeing this stuff well in advance of that. But I think your points are well taken.Besides being available in beta, you also get previews via the NCSoft store.Quote:Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
David, if you mean people should log onto test to actually try the parts, then you do realise that the EU players cant, due to Closed Beta for GR occupying are one and only active test server? I know we'd love to test them (and get jump up and down on any bugs we find) but we cant...saying otherwise is kinda...well, yeah =/
I didn't beta the Natural Pack, but I had a very good idea of what was in it before I purchased.
Alpha, we know you're not happy that EU Test is being used for GR, but we really don't need to hear you complain about it multiple times (and on multiple threads). I like you, but it's getting that "broken record" quality. -
Quote:Agreed. i'd really like to have the art department go over all matching costume pieces/sets and make sure that the colors actually match up in transition.Originally Posted by JChaos
This has always been one of my biggest complaints about the costume system... not just for this set, but for LOTS of costume sets. Sets all over the place have these seams with different colors that just look bad if you're trying for a continuous look for the costume.
This would seem a good way to get a lowly minion familiar with how to manipulate the basics of the costume engine. -
Quote:Actually, I would say that statement is most likely true. Many were expecting it. Now, whether that was a reasonable or very limited expectation is another matter.Originally Posted by Elke_Bolt
I think it is a reasonable statement that many were expecting more
animal type parts in the mutant pack. -
Quote:All of whom you can make very reasonable copies of (depending on which incarnation of Beast you're talking about) in the game right now. You don't need any new costume pieces to do them.Originally Posted by Elke_Bolt
And enough with the furry stuff. @@ There's Tigra, Sabertooth, Beast, and even
characters like Wolverine have animal traits that are subtle.
You do need them for many full anthropomorphic concepts, but again, that is not the same as a "mutant". -
Quote:I'm in full support of this idea.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Say, David, can you guys be convinced to add a With Skin version of the Organic Armour chest and legs and possibly make the transition between Bioluminescent legs and monster feet a tad smoother?
I'm not really making demands here. Just asking. -
Quote:Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
The icon should have a DNA triple helix on it.Quote:Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Bwah...triple helix?Quote:Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
As in mutation.Ok... that had me cracking up.Quote:Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Jebus, when you people mutate, I guess you don't mess around.
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Quote:This sums it up pretty well for me.Originally Posted by Xzero45
Mutant does NOT equal furry. Seriously.
Anyways, I can dig the costumes. The Bio set looks pretty cool and useful for reptile/aquatic themed characters. And the Organic looks like it'd fit for a wide variety of characters, depending on how far your imagination goes. I could see it working for fire, earth, spines, maybe even ice related characters, which are all common mutant abilities. Too bad everyone's going to end up using the whole set at once and won't even attempt to be creative with it. Also digging the new costume change emotes.
The term "mutant" has far greater scope than just "furry" in the sci-fi/super-hero genre, which is what CoX falls into.
With few exceptions, like TNMT, mutant has nothing to do with anthropomorphic.
I can already see dozens of potential applications for some of these parts, provided that I can get decent texture matches.
That having been said, I think that tail(s), monstrous hand and foot/lower leg options are very much needed. -
Quote:At the time of that announcement, the pre-purchase system was not yet in place. Use the term pre-purchase (as in via the NCSoft Store, the same way you get early access to DuPi and DeSu) instead of pre-order in this instance.Originally Posted by Decorum
Plain and clear, please. Does Tier Three refer to...
A. The prepurchase program
B. The GameStop pre-order program
C. Some other pre-order (through NCSoft possibly)
This has been a rather big point of confusion of late. Thanks.
There is no mechanism in place for retail pre-orderers to get into the beta. -
Nothing to see here people...err... monsters... whaterver...
MOVE ALONG!
If I am a winner, I permit NC Interactive, Inc. and NCsoft Europe Limited to use my name, likeness, photograph, hometown, and any comments that I may make about myself or this contest that I provide for advertising and promotional activities. I also certify that I am at least 13 years of age and am eligible to participate in this contest.[/QUOTE] -
Quote:LOL!Originally Posted by War Witch
Okay, I'm NOT losing my mind. I was in a meeting when that...thing...wandered by.
HAPPY BIRFDAY, EM!!!!!
WW
Happy birthday EMPulse.
Odd lil company you work for... -
Quote:HOLY [WARNING EXPLICIT LYRICS], that sucks!Originally Posted by Tahquitz
I bought prepurchase to play Dual Pistols early, but I'm also going to buy Complete Collection for a different reason: my internet connection is 200Kbps (rural town) with a "Fair Access Policy", and downloading Issue 17 made my ISP charge me $95.00 when I was downloading it in April on top of the regular $60 monthly fee.
Even at $40.00, Complete Collection's DVD's are cheaper for me than to download against my town's access limits.
You know, as bad as Craptastic! is, this puts things into perspective.
UPDATE: As of this afternoon, nothing has been communicated to the local GS stores regarding this promotion. They still don't know if my pre-orders, placed prior to the promotion announcement will qualify for the stuff, or if they need to do anything to make them so. -
Quote:But in X months, I, as a LOYAL CUSTOMER who pre-ordered the retail via GameStop will be SCREWED and have been LIED TO, because I WILL ALREADY HAVE the special enhancements THAT THE DEVS SAID WERE EXCLUSIVE, and now ANYONE CAN HAVE THEM, so I feel LESS SPECIAL and CHEATED and LIED TO and DECEIVED and SMACKED IN THE FACE!!!Originally Posted by Redbone
Well, personal feelings aside, it is sensible for the Dev's to make them Vet Rewards eventually. It follows every precedent we have thus far, it sooths troubled brows over missing a preorder bonus, it costs the Devs close to nothing to do and they're always looking for "the next Vet Reward."
Just watch... it's coming. -
Quote:Could not agree more. It's an important distinction, but one I suspect is lost upon those complaining.Originally Posted by LiquidX
Okay, how was it NOT a fair, open deal? Did NCSoft lie to you? Did they not provide you the bonuses you paid for (Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning) when you pre-purchased Going Rogue? Did they pull a bait-and-switch?
What people have right now is buyers remorse. That's not the same thing as being screwed, or NCSoft being evil, or anything like that. People need to get the hell over it. -
Quote:Given that you list 2 specific examples, it is, by definition, not a break with that has happened in the past.Originally Posted by Starcloud
It's not that. It's that every other thing available has been made available to existing players through an item pack. The only exception I know of is the Collectors Edition Power Slide and Cape for City of Heroes; even the City of Villains pre-order helmets are available to veterans.
So, this is a break with what has happened in the past. Something only available to preorders from a specific company, and no apparent plans to make them available to existing players.
That's disturbing. Even as other MMORPGs are moving towards the "make everything available to existing players" model that City of Heroes has, City itself is hinting that they're moving away from it.
And, given that you don't know if this will eventually become a vet reward, it may be exactly like other store-specific pre-order perks. -
Quote:Right.Originally Posted by Ice9_
Perhaps, if people included relevant quotes or links in their posts to support their declaratives, all of this banter wouldn't happen at all.
No one can recall all they've read in a given thread, especially when they are as massive as this one. Quoting previous posts, in part or whole, and links to information referenced actually speed up the dialogue process by reducing or elimating the need for anyone to explain the origins of other's posts.
Because looking at the Dev/Community digests before you sound of on a topic is so hard and unreasonable.
No... wait.
Truth.Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
There's this other subject of discussion called "the internet" and one of the most heavily debated topics in it is "can you ever please those lunatics?"
It was probably one of the most heavily analyzed topics of the late eighties and early nineties. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Aggelakis
No, they're not going to add the preorder bonuses to prepurchasers' accounts. They're only available to people who preorder through Gamestop.
And no, they did not lie to people. They changed their minds.Did you use any of the new sets since you pre-purchased? If so, you got your perk.Quote:Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
So, are they going to refund people who changed their minds about pre-purchasing and now want to pre-order instead?
I didn't pre-purchase, and I didn't get access. I will purchase and I will get the GameStop/Razer perks.
If I wanted both, I would have pre-purchased and pre-ordered. If you want both, you can do the same. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Quasadu
This comment is a slap in the face to all those who have been slapped in the face over many, many years of face slapping.
Quote:Originally Posted by EvilRyu
This kind of slap. The hard kind. [...]Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
[...]the EU gets kicked in the teeth again, but as always, we get ignored. [...]So from what I gather here, Paragon/NCSoft/marketing slap (hard) & kick (in the teeth) players, particularly EU players, while ignoring them, and lying to them... and their intentions are to shut down the EU servers.Quote:Originally Posted by Lyrik
The least the marketing department could do is be honest and just close the damn EU servers already if they don't care about them. That would make at least clear what their intentions are.
I'm really trying to picture how you can ignore someone you're slapping, and kicking in the teeth...
And if you're kicking them, why are you slapping, and not punching?
And if you don't care about them, why would you waste the energy to beat them?
One can always dream...Quote:Originally Posted by Mylia
Too bad they did not hit you hard enough to get your senses corrected.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Fair enough. My word choice may have been off. My original and core message was that this feels like a disservice to people that already bought it under the false assumption that doing so was the way to maximize preorder goodness.
(I'm not really sure the difference between a pre-order and pre-purchase. Anyone that feels compelled to correct me, please include an explanation.)===>
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Pre-purchase is paid in full, and in this case only available through the NCSoft Store.
Pre-Order is available through various channels, incl. GameStop, Best Buy & Amazon, and, depending on the retailer, may simply entail a deposit, or may also require a full pre-payment.
Hope that helps.