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A screenshot of the new enemy would be awesome
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No response to Hero1's statement about Tyrant?
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Quote:But it's not spontaneous - you have to decide to kill someone, go fetch your gun, go outside, find the nearest person, aim, and pull the trigger - there's a thought process, with steps, and at each step you've got the option to stop - but you don't.Whatever you want to call it, randomly shooting someone for no reason is NOT "premeditated".
It's pre-planned murder.
But the world is a better place than it was in the past - so good is winning.Quote:You only say that because the victors in any conflict label themselves as the good guys. The history books generally color the victors as "good", so you claim that good wins over evil. That's not the case; rather, someone wins, and that someone gets to write the history. Because their opponent isn't around any more. Of course they're going to make themselves look good when they do it.
Good doesn't win over Evil. Victors call themselves Good and call the losers Evil.
So Hero1 saying "the real threat isn't the Resistance, it's Tyrant, and what he's doing to humanity" doesn't sort of hint a little bit that the devs are maybe looking at the possibility that there is a clear line between good and evil in GR?Quote:Again, I doubt that. The entire premise of GR seems to be "shades of gray". Sure, if you only run the Resistance storyline (which I assume you will, GG), you'll probably end up seeing Cole and his men as Evil. Hell, you'll probably get that from your first Resistance contact. Run the Loyalist storyline and you'll get the other side of the coin. Run both (as I, and many others, will do), and you'll see that the Good and Evil in Praetoria isn't quite so clear-cut.
EDIT: And yes, I will be joining the Resistance
GR might be about choices, but the only one it throws up for me is what I should wear for infiltrating Tyran't domain - a retro-style catsuit, or a more glammed up outfit "Alias" style?
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The new endgame system in GR is one thing they've said almost nothing about so far - but it's quite possibly the major content feature of the expansion.
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Quote:No - it's premeditated - you went and got your gun, then went outside with the intention of taking someone's life for no reason - it's absolute evil, and can't be defended as anything else.I would argue otherwise. While I wouldn't call random murder a good thing, I fail to see where it is explicitly "evil". Evil implies villainous intent. Completely random death doesn't have intent behind it. I would probably call the act of premeditated murder "evil"; but random murder is about as evil as manslaughter.
Because good does win over evil most of the time - that's why we're still here, and haven't wiped ourselves out.Quote:During a conflict, all sides believe that they are doing Good, and their opponent(s) are Evil. After a conflict, the history books call the victors Good and the losers Evil.
I'm pretty sure we'll have the fun of thrashing Tyrant on a TF -but it won't be a permanent victory - otherwise, GR would be quite short-livedQuote:If and when the Resistance topples Emperor Cole's hold on Upsilon Beta 9-6 (with or without the aid of super-powered individuals from Primal Earth), it will be "proven" that the Resistance were the "good guys" all along, while the Loyalists were "evil". If and when the Resistance is annihilated (with or without the aid of super-powered individuals from Primal Earth), it will be "proven" that the Resistance were "evil", while the Loyalists were the "good guys".
(Of course, all of that is hypothetical, since it's unlikely that the Loyalists vs. Resistance storyline will ever be complete in order to maintain the MMO Status Quo)
But even with no final victory for either side, by the end of the GR content, there's going to be no doubt as to who the good people are, and who the bad ones are
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That's correct - the ones in Atlas and Galaxy don't count towards the badge.
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Quote:You forgot the necklines that Sexy Jay added to the tights optionCostumes
- Biker-style leather jackets
- Fishnet Stockings
- Trench coats
- Bare legs for male characters
- Badges unlocking costume pieces
- Maple leaf chest symbol
- Pirate costume pieces
- Additional skirts
- Ninja costume items
- Spikes and chains costume pieces
- Lab Coats
- Multiple costume slots
- Tennis shoes
- Custom weapons
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Welcome to the game and the forum

If you need help Euro-side, I'm on Defiant server
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Quote:Spy ATsEmphasis mine.
However, I'm willing to bet good money that there will be at least one (probably 2) EATs for G_R. Lowering the requirements ensures that even new players will fairly easily be able to access those new EATs... say... right after you've chosen your faction loyalty in the new Praetoria 1-20 starting content...
Maybe not in GR - but certainly as a later add-on for Praetoria. -
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Quote:Well, the GR "epic storyline" covers the new 1-20 content in Praetoria - so if you played through 1-20 as a supporter of Tyrant, it'd make sense once you'd completed the epic storyline that you'd get some sort of loyalist Praetorian EAT as a reward - and the same if you played the 1-20 helping the Resistance, you'd unlock a Resistance EAT once you'd finished the storyline.it would, not flaming you but i have read this a lot lately and i find it interesting how unlocks around 20 will fit into the story.
In fact, if that old NCSoft marketing survey is correct, a Praetroian EAT could be some sort of Spy AT - you'd either be a scout for Tyrant's invasion of Primal Earth, or an undercover Resistance member going to Primal Earth to get help against Tyrant - both of which would tie in very well with level 20 being the level you have to leave Praetoria. -
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Quote:No, there is a basic human morality that applies to everyone.There's no such thing as the norm for human morality. You're boarding ethnocentrism when you assume that there is.
Not at all - there's universal good, and universal evil - if you take a gun and go outside and shoot the first person you see, then there's no way that can be defended as subjective in any way at all.Quote:Evil and Good are rather subjective concepts
