Golden Girl
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Quote:You seemed to object to the "grind" invovled in unlocking it - that "grind" is very likely to remain the same when the slot does go live - it wasn't the reason it was pulled from GR.Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
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Quote:I wasn't meaning by numbersOriginally Posted by Frosticus
Don't make statements when you have no idea. This is your speculation based on next to nothing, not a definitive statement.
All DCUO has to have is 4 zones, a few costumes, 4 powersets, lvl 1-20 content and it will already be pretty much neck and neck with GR.
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Quote:I love the DC universe - but DCUO is nothing compared to GROriginally Posted by Frosticus
If "new" areas to explore, powers to use, and costumes to try out is something that is important to you then GR is probably going to fall flat compared to DCUO.
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Quote:Well, the 1-20 content isn't a new system, so it's probably easier to design and code that that add something totally new like the Incarnate system.Originally Posted by Lucky666
I just came back to the game for this excatly this came about a month or so early was so excited. Why the good stuff? couldnt you delay the 1-20 content that it takes the average player 3 hours play time to get threw.
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Quote:A few months or soOriginally Posted by Slax
You assume I'll be around the year or so that'll take.
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Quote:I mean that when I19 comes around, you might find that the method of unlocking and creating Incarnate slots might look quite similar to the method that was intended for the Alpha slot in GR.Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
*** are you even talking about?
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Quote:It'll save you later disappointmentOriginally Posted by Perfect_Pain
No. Dont talk for me. I know. I am happy.
DO NOT TELL ME I AM MISUNDERSTANDING!
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Quote:And SOE backing them all the way.Originally Posted by Lucky666
Well it is the DC universe they almost certainly have a huge budget.
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Quote:It's been confirmed that they didn't scale down when you exemplared - not sure about current level 50 content.Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
Has that been confirmed yet? That you can't use Incarnate abilities in typical level 50 content?
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Quote:I don't think BAB was scheduled to animate the new Incarnate system into existence.Originally Posted by Championess
Maybe they should have put that great "walk" feature on the back burner and used that time to really think of what people would like out of the new abilities.
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Quote:More stuff to do at 50, with new powers, rewards, content and challenges?Originally Posted by Santorican
Instead of guessing how about just asking the community what they want out of incarnates?
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Quote:Again, I think you're misundestanding why it was removed form GR, and you might find the full Incarnate system in I19 has a rather familair look to it.Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
The **** wasnt right, so they took it out.
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Quote:They must have a huge dev team working 24/7 over there to be able to turn out that much stuff in such a short a time.Originally Posted by Championess
Yeah they better roll incarnates out before November because DCUO is where my money will be going since they will have TONS more costumes, powers, and content to play with.
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Quote:Well, I'm prtetty sure they wanted to - but it hasn't quite turned out that way, so they're faced with either giving it to us when it doesn't work, or delaying the release of GR.Originally Posted by Santorican
I'd rather they get it right the first time around.
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Quote:So would you prefer a feature that doesn't work properly, or a delay to the launch date of GR?Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
If you're OK with a company selling you a product then yanking features AFTER you buy it, that's fine, but some of us are not.
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Quote:I'm not sure there was any intention to fool anyone with thisOriginally Posted by Rubberlad
Color me disappointed, disheartened and let down but not surprised.
All along I though it was strange that this little piece of a much bigger whole called endgame content was tagged on at all. Its completely out of character for how this game has been managed over the years. I also don't expect we will see endgame/incarnate content in 2010. I'm sure we'll see I19 but it'll be a "light" issue full of content nobody was expecting.
As the old saying goes: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me...
Never again.
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Quote:Don't bet on itOriginally Posted by Frosticus
Hopefully an unannounced round of powerset proliferation is being included with i18/GR's release.
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I think the new tech of the Halloween Banners and the Winter Lord's realm may have been test runs for possible Incarnate zone events - especially the Winter Lord one.
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Quote:Well, that would still make it 1-20, and then 50+ - that's still, kind of a big gapOriginally Posted by Shadow Wail
If that's the case, then Praetoria isn't just 1-20 content.
Plus, these zone events - if they do take place in Paretoria - aren't planned for GR - they're part of I19. -
Quote:Well, at PAX East, Positron did say that the new zone events were the Incarnate endgame content - no mention was made of any other type of Incarnate content.Originally Posted by Seldom
The zone events have been hinted at, but no details put forth. I doubt they'll be doing non-stop zone events, and if they are, I won't be doing them nonstop variety is the spice of life after all.
EDIT: Go to 6:00 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT9O0HM2-QM
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Quote:The new zone events, which are the Incarnate system content, were rumored to take place in Praetoria.Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
What does bother me is that in order to play a system wide feature I have to buy an expansion. I don't see why the incarnate system has to depend on GR unless there was something in GR that explained incarnates or that there was some sort of incarnate tie in to GR.
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Quote:The new incarnate content involves new zone events of some kind - those are what we're supposed to use the new incarnate abilites on - but as there's no Incarnate content in GR, that makes the Alpha slot a pretty pointless thing to give us in GR.Originally Posted by Seldom
I have to say, anything limited to level 50 content will be so specialized as to be hard to justify. Things 50's can do:
villains, level 50 arcs: 27 vs. 98 sub-50
hero, level 50 arcs: 20 Vs. 74 vs. sub-50
strike forces @ level 50: 5, 1 respec vs. below 50: 6, 2 respecs
task forces @ level 50: 1 respec vs. below 50: 13, 2 respecs
If they are insistent on incarnate/alpha stuff being level 50 alone, I'd hope they'd match the post level 50 development with level 50 content to develop while doing. Because those level 50 story arcs? Done 'em all. The strike forces? same. I really don't want to have to go through them over and over just so that I can get more powerful to go through them again.
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Quote:That's correct - reading his post, there's nothing about the way the Alpha slots works or is unlocked being the problem - the problem is that it's not useful if there's no Incarnate content to use it on, as it doesn't scale down when you exemplar - it'd be similar to if when they'd added PvP to the game, they hadn't finished making the ArenasOriginally Posted by UberGuy
Indeed.
People shouldn't necessarily assume that the problem was with the mechanical system itself. (Or least what part of the system was involved in the "sneak peek".) The problem may have been that there was not enough to do with that mechanical system.
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Quote:They must have a heck of a lot of friends and family then to be able to have the numbers they need for testing something as big as GR.Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
Not likely. I'm supposed to be in both the other tiers for the loyalty program and the pre-purchase.
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Quote:With just over a month to launch, I think it's probably gone a bit past that stage by nowOriginally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
Apparently it's still in the friends and family/60+ month tiers.