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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Progressman View Post
    He's no Tyrant. He's an absoulute ruler sure, but that doesn't make him evil.
    You've not actually explored Praetoira yet, have you?
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Progressman View Post
    Indeed, I like Kings and Emperors. Not to mention this weird Imperial Cult thing Cole has going on.
    That explains it then
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity View Post
    Then you're apparently color blind to a color called grey.
    I find insane mass-murdering god-emperors with messiah compexes a very dark shade of gray - the kind of gray that's so dark it's black
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Progressman View Post
    I'm no villian...
    So why are you worshipping Tyrant?
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Obsidius View Post
    In your opinion, what would need an NDA, especially to be kept from the prying eyes of competition?
    Well, something like a nemesis/rogues gallery system - or the zone events that are the main bit of the Incarnate system content.
  6. Wasn't there a pirate MMO that came out quite recently?
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zortel View Post
    What about the people who like living in Praetoria? Who are happy, Enriche or not.
    When the water supply is drugged, it's very hard to tell who's really happy

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    Does the Cole Administration have it's issues? Yes
    Well spotted

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    and my characters who are loyal to Praetoria want to see these issues resolved.
    When you're trying to change the mind of an insane god-emperor who believes his nightmare fascist dictatorship is heaven on earth, and can survive a one-on-one duel with the Hamidon and a direct hit from a nuke, the resolving of the problem will involve violence
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven View Post
    I think you mean "Soviet" and not "Communist".

    Those are two different things.
    Not to the people being oppressed by them

    Soviet, Communist, Nazi, Loyalist - it doesn't really matter what the political framework of the dictatorship is - they're all evil, and for the people being oppressed and murdered because they don't fit into whatever insane system the dictatorship they're trapped in happens to be trying to impose on them, it doens't really make any difference.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DMystic View Post
    No I'd be working with the people that blow up hospitals right.
    Or people like Cleo, who help you stop hospital bombings
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Charnell View Post
    The devs will never touch pvp again.
    You might be surprised
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steampunkette View Post
    No. My Responsible Loyalist is -not- Loyal to Cole and his Regime.

    She is Loyal to Praetoria. And to the People of Praetoria.
    If you were loyal to the people of Praetoria, you wouldn't be working for the system that is oppressing them
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    Tyrant reminds me of Stalin in many ways.
    Yeah - although there are a lot of Nazi aspects to the loyalists, the propaganda posters and personality cult stuff seems more Communist in their art style - which is a good move, so that they don't make the dictatorship seem too much like any single RL one, and make it a blend of RL ones instead, with some sc-fi evil like thought police thown in too.
  13. That would also be totally impractical - you just need to make sure you're not outside too long, and use some double-sided tape

    The whole spray-on clothing thing in general is over-complicating something that's so simple we figured out the basics for it thousands of years ago
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    Calvin Scott did not form the Resistance. See when you all say stuff like this, I have a hard time believing you've actually played these arcs.
    Well, I think loyalists only watch TPN for all their information needs
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
    Oddly enough i'm still hoping to eventually meet some of the Praetorian DE.
    You can meet them in the retconned MJ and Tina arcs.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hammerstar View Post
    The 'grey' is the concept that some things normally thought of as evil have to be accepted in the circumstances everyone is in within Praetoria.
    25 years is a very long time for a state of emergency to last

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    Everything you describe above is taken from the viewpoint of those in the Prime Earth
    And the normal people in Paretoria who are fighting the fascist dictatorship - if everyone accpeted the evil of the government, there wouldn't be any resistance to that evil

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    who managed to beat back the Hamidon and never faced the 'last stand' scenerio.
    So if Rome, Italy was under attack on Primal Earth, Statesman would just stand by and watch?

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    Can you say the same viewpoint would guide your every action if you knew any mis-step by yourself or anyone in your city would, without question, be the end of the Human race? Remember, the Hamidon is not a stupid thing...it can think. To quote a favorite movie, "It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop...-ever-...until you are dead!". How much do you gamble with Humanity's fate when you know any time you lose is the end of it all?
    The text of the "Knows the Turth" badge is quite interesting
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steampunkette View Post
    The Devs chose to write the Morality Text as Revenge and Violence for the Loyalist option, and sweet caring bunnies for the Resistance option, barely mentioning ou'd have to kill the cop.
    Well, that fits with who the good side are

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    I found this disturbing and Preposterous
    Just shout "All Hail Emperor Cole" - it'll make everything easier

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    While Killing the Cop means shooting a man whom, to your knowledge, has done -no- wrong whatsoever. He's a good person if a little stern.
    If he was a good person, he wouldn't be serving a fascist dictatorship - and with the title of "Interrogator", and the loyalists frequent use of torture on people, I'm not so sure he's "done no wrong whatsoever"
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steampunkette View Post
    I've been told, however, by some people that my characters are not and can not be heroic in any way shape or form because they work with the government
    That's correct - anyone working for Tyrant's evil system is evil as well - no one with normal morality can support someone like Tyrant and be a good person.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
    the way they interlink is inspired.
    I think some of that's the work of Dr. Aeon - before he became a dev, he wrote some great MA arcs that were very linked up - "The Legacy of Joe, the Longbow Eagle" is the first one, if you want to try them.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shadowclone View Post
    You can't forget one of the reasons why Praetoria might be the last humanity on earth. Cole stood around and watched Rome burn. (If we are to believe the eye witness that is.)
    Tyrant had an agenda from quite early on in his career as a "hero"
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hammerstar View Post
    I love how 'grey' Praetoria is
    It isn't gray, because they've made the government way too evil to allow for any grayness - like Tyrant and his fascist dictatorship is a checklist of government evil - mass murder, "disappearances", torture, thought police, slavery, drugged citizens, "behavioral adjustment" for anyone who opposes the governemnt, repression of the media and education, police brutality and general oppression - there's just nothing gray there, it's all evil, from the lowest PPD thug to the insane god-emperor in his tower.

    And although it's one of the lesser crimes when compared to the other crimes against humanity being carried out by Tyrant and his thugs on a daily basis, the drugging of the water is actually one of the biggest problems in trying to make Praetoria seem gray - it takes away the idea that large sections of the population might actually like Tyrant and his dictatorship of their own accord, and not because they were being pacified by a drugged water supply.
  22. The "funniest" part of that bit of police brutality is the way they're doing it in pretty much full view of their colleagues, who are totally not reacting - I guess it's just another day in utopia
  23. Actually, I'm pretty sure that's a guy they're beating up - if it was a girl, it'd be pushing the T rating too much.