Golden Girl
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Quote:When the devs say someone's a villain, I tend to believe them - especially when they back it up with actions in gameOriginally Posted by T_Immortalus
Golden Girl, are you really believing every word written about Praetoria as gospel truth?
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Quote:No he isn't - he crossed the line the moment he set up his dictatorshipOriginally Posted by T_Immortalus
That is where Emperor Cole is. He is treading the line
Yes, I find myself questioning my stance all the time as we fight our way through the moral uncertaininty of the Apex TF, the Tin Mage TF, the BAF Trial, the Lambda Sector Trial, the Keyes' Reactor Trial and the Underground Trial - being confronted by wave after wave of loyalist forces trying to conquer Primal Earth and enslave the rest of the multiverse for their evil master would make anyone reconsider which side is good and which side is badQuote:and we are meant to decide "is he doing what is necessary or doing evil?", which the story is meant to make us question our stance at every turn.
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The way it mentions the troops just standing silently to attention while Tyrant is murdering Duray does actually make it sound like this isn't the first time they've seen Tyrant's Vader tribute act
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Quote:There's info on the true situation between Tyrant and the Hamidon at the end of the new Underground TrialOriginally Posted by PsychicKitty
You are right Golden girl.
His plans do work at many levels.......and i wouldnt be surprised if storywise Emporer Cole hadnt made a deal with the Hammidon in the first place.
After all....when you play the Preatorian side....you find out that tons of heroes and the millitary together couldnt stop the Hammidon...but all of the sudden Cole by himself managed to beat it....and coincidentaly enough the special heroes directly under him are all villains and heroes with their own agendas that for some reason dont really trust cole but dont even bother him about it....
They're differnet peopleQuote:By the way...since energy cant be destroyed...and since technicaly when you can control it at a certain level...like a certain hero and Preatorian can..... negative and positive become the same thing.....why is it...we never see Positron or Anti-Matter ever face off against each other?
Is it just me.....or does it seam like these two are the same person?
As far as I know, the only time any of the Primal signature chatacers have ever met their Praeotrian versions is on the old Maria Jenkins arc, when Statesman was being held prisoner by Tyrant in his lava lair. -
I played this one when it was first published - it deserves to be a dev choice.
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Quote:Tyrant's plans work on several levelsOriginally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Methinks you're reading too far into that, GG. Maybe we try giving the credit for that to Duray first, since as far as we've been told, he's the one who did it.
Sound good?
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Quote:Tyrant using the threat of the Devouring Earth to advance his plans? Yeah, that's a twistOriginally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Talk about a fantastic plot twist.
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Quote:I don't think he'd have to be that discrete - word of the what happened would probably be spread pretty fast through the IDF - unless Tyrant does this sort of thing all the time, and to the soldiers watching it was just the usual bi-monthly Duray punching that they'd seen dozens of times beforeOriginally Posted by Arcanaville
How will he know to ask them? If you just woke up with a one month gap in your memory and its pretty clear that only happens if the ruler of the world either let it happen or did it, would you start randomly asking whoever was nearby "hey, psst, did the Emperor punch me in the face or something within the last few weeks?"
You'd think he would be a little more discrete than that.
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Quote:Really? What tipped you off to that? It's so totally well hidden behind all those shade of grayOriginally Posted by Protonic_Flux
Emperor Marcus Cole is a villain.
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Quote:He just needs to ask any of the soldiers who Tyrant carefully made sure were there to witness what happenedOriginally Posted by Arcanaville
But with a month of his memory gone he won't know what specifically went horribly awry without careful research, and he won't have the time given he's being sent right into combat.
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Quote:Would you like to back that wild claim up in any way?Originally Posted by Santorican
Not to mention most old timers are getting the shaft when it comes to their vet rewards.
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Quote:Almost anything's possible right now as we know so little about themOriginally Posted by Kractis_Sky
Battalion = soldiers of rularuu?
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Quote:It's not really connected to an arc - it's the letter you find at the end of the Twilght's Son TF at Ouroboros - the TF itself doesn't have any connection to what we read in the letter, apart from it being a warning about the TF contact.Originally Posted by __Naq
Arrg, beware, mateys--here, there be spoilers!
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Quote:They're working on some form of soloable Incarnate content, which will be quite a bit slower than the progress players can make on the core Incarnate content of the Trials - so I think that's the place where we'll see the smaller scale Incarnate stories, like the Mender Ramiel arc, rather than the cosmic war scale stories of the Incarnate Trials.Originally Posted by __Naq
Has anyone asked the rednames at a gathering or whatever, whether there'll be *any* future *individual* character development arcs (ex. Ramiel, clone) post-50? My love of the game is a mighty thing, but it looks more and more like we're sacrificing individual development for a purely "big story" group game.
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Quote:Well, Tyrant did eventually save some of people of Rome, but only after the Devouring Earth had killed enough to suit his purpose - but it was all for the greater good, I'm sureOriginally Posted by Washu357
For those who think Cole might be heroic, Vagabond from the Resistance might have a few words to say about that...
"I was laying in a pile of debris, watchin' the Devouring Earth charge into the main city. And you know who I see, watchin' the entire scene from a skyscraper?
Cole.
I thought we were all saved! Here was that guy everyone was talkin' about. And you know what he did? He watched Rome burn."
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Quote:I'm assuming that this is sarcasm, right?Originally Posted by Silver Gale
There's the word FREEDOM and my account is called Free. Clearly that means everything in the game is available for free except some XP potions. So it's Paragon Studios' responsibility to make FREEDOM match my expectations, otherwise it's totally a bait and switch scam.
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Here's some speculation about Calvin's fate from another thread
Quote:He might have to be dealt with later on if he does something crazy
For example, Vanessa DeVore has been revealed as the guiding force behind the Resistance, and Calvin Scott is just their military commander - but now that Vanessa is dead, and the influence she had over Calvin might be lost, and rather than looking at the bigger picture, he might decide to try and get Aurora back by launching an attack on Mother Mayhem's asylum, with the justification that it has to be done at once because without Vanessa to shield the Resistance from the Seers, the entire movement is in danger - plus, there's also the possibility that Penelope Yin, who also happens to be in the aylum, might be lined up as replacement for her mother as the protector of the Resistance from the loyalist thought police.
So we'd naturally help with the assault on the Asylum, but run into problems with Calvin if it became clear that the only way to defeat Mother Mayhem was to kill her, meaning that Aurora would also be lost forever - and the Resistance commandos that had helped us attack the asylum would probably side with their leader, rather that the visitors from Primal Earth.
And what better place would there be for Calvin's obsession to tip over into madness in the very place where it all began, and faced again with the monster who stole his wife? The final fight would see us versus Mother Mayhem and her Seers, plus Calvin Scott and his Resisatnce commandos, with Penelope Yin and possibly Katie Douglas helping us - it'd be insanity in the asylum
When we defeated them, Mother Mayhem and Calvin could both be fatally wounded, but Praetor Tilman's consciousness would have been destroyed with some kind of mental overload in a last desperate attempt to stop us, so that would allow Calvin and Aurora to share a moment before they both died.
Penelope Yin could then lead the Resistance, which would now have a hgue army of libertaed Seers to help them, and the last major hurdle between us and Tyrant would be gone - we'd have turned back his invasion, and fought our way through his evil empire, defeating his Praetorian Guard one after the other, leaving only Praetor Duncan and her boyfriend in their tower in Nova Praetoria for the final showdown
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Quote:We don't need to - they're already letting us use their bases for the hospitals on the TrialsOriginally Posted by Chyll
( I for one am looking forward to the iTrial where we storm their base of operations.)
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Quote:And as the devs just keep on doing the same enjoyable stuff, regardless of the silly criticism, I think it's safe to assume that they're sensibly ignoring itOriginally Posted by Olantern
However, as this thread shows, it's little more than an opportunity for the Content Police to call the developers horrible writers, for reasons that still aren't too clear to me.
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Quote:I think that that's an important bitOriginally Posted by Jasra
Just wanted add: Posi's first response to this question was turning to Zwill and asking "That's a great cut scene, isn't it?" (or something to that effect.) That's what prompted Black Pebble's desire to strangle.
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Quote:It's just setting the scene for another invasion event to test the server upgrades ahead of the surge of players coming in with I21Originally Posted by Celestyna
While I can appreciate a decent story as much as the next person, I'd still much rather get an actual release date on i21 than a story to placate everyone.
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This might be a good time to psot Vanessa DeVore's updated bio from I21:
Quote:It doesn't seem to present Tyrant and the loyalists in a very good light"The mysterious Vanessa DeVore is a powerful psychic who formed the Carnival of Light from the desperate remains of powerful sorcerers and renegade telepaths who saw Emperor Cole for the evil he truly is. It is her mental powers which masks the Resistance from Praetor Tilman and the Seers. She helped form the Resistance from scattered and aimless groups opposed to Emperor Cole's totalitarian regime. She chose Calvin Scott to lead the violence prone Crusaders into battle with the Praetorian usurpers, and on the other hand she has carefully cultivated the Wardens to overthrown the empire from within and ultimately take over."
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Quote:It's another one of those Devouring Earth threats that always seem to come along at useful times during his careerOriginally Posted by DarkGob
He still wants to conquer us, and will exploit any opportunity to do it. And hey look, here's an opportunity!
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Quote:Mass-murder, torture, brainwashing, slavery and multi-dimensional conquest aren't heroic in any way at all.Originally Posted by NightErrant
Assuming what we have learned is true, he's somewhat heroic.
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Quote:Here's the exact quote:Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
I must have missed that bit, hmm... Remind me to rip that buggers tentacles off next time I'm in there!
The Battalion aren't actually mentioned by name, but people are making the connection because of them being an alien force from our galaxy, which means they probably use starships to travel, rather than the usual portals that trans-dimensional enemies use - and that Twilight's Son is a Mender, and they're deeply involved in the Coming Storm storyline.Quote:"Before I go, I wish to reveal to you an ugly truth regarding Twilight's Son. He is, in fact, the last of his race, but that is because he sold the rest of his kind into slavery. Whether for his own gain or to escape their wrath, I do not know. Unfortunately for him, when the slave masters burned through the Kheldians, they came after him once more and he fled into the past. Perhaps he made yet another bargain with the masters, trading all the Kheldians of the past for his own survival."