Erin Go Braugh

Nah, it was doing it in Word than copy/pasting.
**sigh**

Again, read what I wrote.

I've played the WS and PB. I've given them a chance.

I've teamed with them. I've given them a chance.

Folks, just try to read what is written.
That suits your style of play.

I like running teams of efficient killing machines, not sloppy scatter-mobs.
Nothing childish about experiencing something many times and judging it's not suited for you.

That, in fact, is the opposite of being childish.

I've given Khelds many chances and played them to see if they are worth playing.

It suits you.

I don't kick Khelds from teams (childish).

I don't announce why I'm leaving (rude).

I simply decide to play with folks who don't bring distractions to the game. In the case of Khelds, it's built in. In the case of poor blasters/scrappers/whatever, it's human error.
What is unreasonable?

I let Khelds play however they wat and don't dictate to them.

I don't kick Khelds from teams because their AT has problems.

I chose not to team with bad players or flawed ATs after having teamed with both many times.

Again, that is reasonable.
No, that's not the case. A scrapper who aggros a room jeapardizes the team and also fails to play the role they need to play on the team. A team needs to work as one unit. When parts of the team refuse to work as part of the unit, why not find someone who is willing to work as part of the team?

Isn't that reasonable?
Early on, I stated that this would be a likely response and I am willing to accept it as a reasonable response. Unless I hear that there are changes in the design of the Kheld, though, I don't see a reason to revisit since my issue is not with the people playing the Kheld, but with the AT design.
That's his opinion. If I want to ratchet up the difficulty, I can on my terms. If I don't want to, I can bring it down. Again, it's personal preference and whether you're willing to accept unneccesary distrations vs. preferred situations.
Why is it unreasonable to want to play without such distractions?
I do dislike KB, but as I said I play with blasters who have KB. I do not play with blasters who refuse to control their KB.

If the Khelds only issue was KB, then your point would be valid.

However, that is not the only reason I no longer play Khelds and why I prefer not to team with Khelds.
I'm willing to acknowledge that folks who run Khelds are good players.

I've not indicated differently.

Sure, there are bad Kheld players. But, as I've said, there are bad scrapper, tank, blaster players.

Again, you and others here wish to make it personal to me by accusing me of being childish and not knowing how to play the game.

Maybe, just maybe, I know the game very well and know how well it can be played without distractions. Maybe I've decided to maximize the game, rather than deal with limitations that you and others are willing to accept.

Try approaching my statements reasonably and not so defensively.

You are not a Kheld.
Please read what I write.

KB is not evil. Folks who cannot control it are not worth teaming with.

KB+host of other issues=slower missions and other issues.

There is a difference.

For someone who likes to quote what I've written, please quote where I say exaclty this. It's earlier in the thread.

I don't team with blasters who refuse to control KB.

The KB issue is not an anti-Kheld thing, though many here want to make it into one.

Folks,
Some here are really, really defensive when I'm not making an issue over how well any individual plays the game.

My issue is with the Kheld limitations and their abilities do not offset it, in my eyes.

Stop getting personal about it. Stop internalizing design criticism.

A moment of growth for you...missed.

But that would be false.

I can handle the cysts, et. al. I choose not to deal with them because they slow the pace of missions and the powers the PB or WS bring to the table are not enough to off-set it.

So, they cysts are not too difficult to conquer. If you read what I wrote, instead of imagining what I wrote (as I suggested earlier), you would understand the difference.

Hate to break it to you, but . . . you're not a Kheld. You play a Kheld in a video game.

So, while I comment on blips on a screen, you chose to attack the actual person and not the argument.

Perhaps some time away from the game would give you perspective.

I did list the problems with the AT. Again, read what I wrote and not just what you think I wrote. This seems to be a pattern.

See above.

If I could not beat a cyst on a team? I suppose. However, that's not the case. You need to take more time and provide reasonable and not hysterical responses.

There is a degree of ignorance on display, I agree.

It is. I also don't stay on teams with blasters who won't (not can't) control KB and scrappers who think they can aggro entire rooms.

I cannot tolerate bad play from players and/or powers of ATs that effectively mimic incompetence (lack of KB control, aggroing unneccessarily, etc).

Hey, you're used to scattered mobs, longer missions, the occassional team wipe because of unneccessary aggro. This is normal to you, not unlike folks who live in desparate poverty have grown accustomed to it. I'm simply used to a different standard of play.

I apologize for insulting all Khelds, those imaginary beings that populate a video game.

Laughing here.

Unreal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsidian_Force2 It is a game, sadly incompetance, ignorance, and intolerance are not as easy to spot as a Kheldian when it joins a team.

Why do you choose to make it personal?

I've said nothing about you.

I've also stated that I don't feel players using Khelds are incompetent or use poor tactics.

Your anger is misplaced.

I don’t kick Khelds from teams.

I don’t ask or demand Khelds change their style of play.

I don’t encourage others to leave teams with Khelds that I am leaving or announce why I am leaving.

I don’t think the drags on the Kheld build/play offset the advantages, so I no longer play them. It’s not as if the primary issues I had disappear as the AT levels. I’m not rejecting the AT without having tested for a considerable time. I also don’t play blasters (too squishy and too much KB, plus almost constant energy management issues).

So, I think I’ve given the build a fair shake and decided it’s not for me.

I think you should reconsider what I've actually said, instead of what you think was written. I'm willing to accept an apology, as well.

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Found them no more or less effective than other ATs that don't have the above two. I know, this is where you tell me how little I know or appreciate them. Fine. After 28 (PB) and 22(WS) levels, I had enough of the drawbacks.

It's also true that I've left and formed new teams when a Kheld gets on the team. I'd rather restart a team than deal with the distractions brought on by WS and PB.