Debtlover

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Doesn't sound like your build is worth looking at if you can't even handle a single spawn of +4 Rikti.

yea, yea, I know, now we're just being mean. It's the way life works. Walk into a thread spewing garbage and you're going to get it thrown back at you.

No biggee, live and learn, right?

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe

I remember when he posted that in the Scrapper Forum - good stuff, and it's in my favorites, too.

Two things I want to point out:

1. Check the date - this was done BEFORE the damage buffs and dwarf-as-breakfree changes. Notable that he could double-mire, but operating with a lower damage scalar, longer recharg on dwarf mire, and no way to break mez without an inspiration more than make up for that.

2. Debtlover, you might notice if you watch that video that not once does the player use a break free or inspiration of any kind. Stress test enough?

I'm going to say this once more and then I"m done: Debtlover quit giving yourself props by dragging other people down. If you can't complete challenges others can, it doesn't give you any legitimacy to dismiss their accomplishments based on a technicality and make up your own stress test that's obviously perfectly suited for your build to win, like going up against the Council and Demons (couldn't have chosen two easier enemy groups, and that's why I asked originally)

If you have nothing to prove and like your toon the way it is then you have every reason to shut up, go away and let other people enjoy theirs. Just like you don't have to prove anything to them, they don't have to prove anything to you.

The troll show ends here.

Originally Posted by AlienOne

Sure you can!

If he can do +4x8 Arachnos (using inspirations) with bosses in the mix, I'll be REALLY impressed, because I'm not sure if Vestige could handle that...

"Alien"

*EDIT*
Video's still processing.... Might have to give it about 20 min or so to view in HD...

Originally Posted by Microcosm

(Bill, eclipse offers psi resist last I checked)

Amusing as I find all this, there are some things that I feel I should note.

B: Saying no insps is as arbitrary as saying no IOs, in fact I could easily argue IOs are "cheating" more than using insps. Insps have been here since the launch of the game, dropping consistently, and were always meant to be used. Just because someone decided that they were not allowed in what you refer to as "classic" stress test does not make it law. This is especially the case now that we have been given the ability to control our insp use more with combination. Actively managing your insp tray can now consistently improve your character's overall performance and choosing not to do so makes you no more l33t than someone who chooses not to use hasten or their powerset's pets.

Originally Posted by Hyperstrike

So you're uselessly trolling. Back! BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE! I HAVE FIRE!



Take a toon that isn't mez resistant and duplicate his feat. Then go him one better.

Until then, your talk about stress testing, etc is worth less than the effort it takes to scroll past your post without reading.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Precisely the response I expected. You'll come into a thread calling out someone that had the balls to post proof of what they did manage but you run away with your tail between your legs as soon as you're called out.

How sadly predictable.

Originally Posted by Desitre

Well, I thought you would want to try the RWZ challenge? since they lifted the cap on RWZ and lvl 1s can go there that would be easier to do. I don't care if u use Break frees or not.

Originally Posted by Desitre

I didn't see that, grats! anyways if that's too late for you is 7:00 pm pacific better?

Originally Posted by Desitre

If your online tonight from 9:00pm pacific time tonight that would be a great time for me to come and watch you, but if you can't that's understandable and we can arrange some other time if your up for it.(if not that's cool too)

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Let's see it. Talk means nothing.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh3d0wjbu4c

Human/Dwarf warshade does RWZ challenge.

Mez in this game is stupidly put together. Far as I'm concerned, if any AT can pull off the RWZ challenge and use nothing but breakfrees to do it so that they, too, can ignore the idiocy that is the way mez functions here, I call it a win.

So there's my challenge for any kheldian out there.

Even if you must use breakfrees, and ONLY breakfrees to do it, if you head into the RWZ, find a level 54 spawn with 3 bosses and take them out, including all associated LTs and minions, I'll give you a cookie and say challenge well done.

No pulling the spawn apart. No running away. No temp powers. Vet attacks are acceptable but generally frowned upon.

Once you pull that off, go for the gold.

+4/x8 Arachnos spawn WITH bosses, again no insp use except breakfrees allowed.

I know I can't do either with my warshade but he's running on basic IOs. I know I can do both with my scrapper. Hell, unless I get cocky and stupid, I can make it through a whole mission without insps but I WILL be playing it damn safe because psi hurts like hell against SR.

Originally Posted by Desitre

Well then I don't see why people are asking more of him. If you ask me, he has beat the game lol

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

He already has. Fact of the matter is that for a human-only kheldian, mez IS our primary weakness. next up is our lack of psi mitigation.

That means Arachnos and Carnies fit the bill.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe

Sure it's a big deal, even with no mezzers. I'm not sure my WS could do it.



Recharge. I knew I missed something when I asked about set bonuses!

So I'm guessing you stealth in to the edge of the mob, orbiting death and the stun aura running, Grav Em, make for the boss, Gravity well, Eclipse, AoE blast, raise fluffies and unchain essence? Next mob, rinse/repeat and before long three fluffies out, right?

That was a most constructive post. Welcome to the Kheld Forums, Debtlover Consider my earlier Troll remarks retracted.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe

Okay, you didn't say that; that wasn't my point. And gratz on managing +3/8. Not everyone can do that. Was it with or without inspiratons? If it was without, then triple-gratz.

My point is that if you're really interested in promoting human-form, then you might try a more constructive approach.

Don't have mids? No problem - just give the general hilights of what helped make it possible.

For example, was it all your build, or did your playstyle and skill have more to do with it?

If it's the latter, how can others do it? Do you have a specific strategy?

What sets do you use, if any? Do you pursue soft-capped defense, or max out the damage?

Any of that helps others who might be curious about trying to do the same. Builds help greatly, but they certainly aren't a requirement.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe

Then what do you call this:



and this:


your tone is disrespectful and aggressive. And nasty in that last quote. Ew.

So let me ask you again - if a true stress test of a human form warshade in your opinion is soloing +4x8 mobs without inspirations, then how can that be done?

Be specific please. A build would help.

And no, I don't have any toons on Champion to come see you in action with, nor would I have the time right now even if I did.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe

I smell a troll.


Until then, go away troll.