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After seeing the Cigal jump team brought out I think my money is on them. Great practices last night
and good luck to you tonight!
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Quote:Please refer to the rules, line ups are double blind.Unless they changed something (Or were supposed to change something) Taunt is supposed to be completely unresistable, but has an accuracy check. It has always worked that way in PvP and, if I recall correctly, wasn't changed in PvP 2.0. The reason it seems broken is because its supposed to cause supression to the caster, but not the target. It worked this way in both i12 and i13 PvP. But, since we run no TS - it may appear broken because its so easy to autofollow target and keep taunt on auto cast.
Edit - also, if other teams are having problems coming up with a counter for a taunting lineup, Plz PM dahjee. Im sure even that nub could come up with a counter. SRsly people...instead of banning lineups - try to think of a way to counter it. -
Quote:Slax Im not saying that I want to sit my d6ers but the only way to beat the taunters is stalkers. So ill bring my 2 d6 emps my 2 d6 damage (blasters dom or fort) and my d6ers will get to do nothing and itll just be me and rice vs their emps or something. I dont see how thats fair to my players. I dont want it to come to this.Taunt isn't broken.
I'd never play for a tie, but it's a valid tactic. If I were to play for a tie I'd bring a way more retarded lineup than discussed here.
Saying that this is unfair to d6 but if you do it, I'll sit my d6rs (someone call the DQ police) and beat you 2v6 is highly hypocritical.
I don't like AT limits (even the stalker limit, which I voted for).
I don't like the slippery slope of banning lineups one doesn't like to play against.
I dont like AT limits too, limit to those with taunt. If you wanna run 6 ss fire brutes and do some KO blow spikes or something go for it.
Please please please look at it from the perspective of a d6 player on my team or u2bg's team. Is it fair to them to be punished with not getting to pvp because they have a "good" d8 team. -
U2BG and Us are the most high powered offensive teams in the league no doubt. But if we did an 8v8 and both did 2 emps 4 blasters 2 brutes and had the brutes go race the scores would be ooo around 4-2 ish something like that. Not for lack of offense but because of evasion and healing.
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Ok so from now on ill tell my d6ers to just not show up and rice and i will just run stalkers and beat your 6 man 4 taunt 2 emp line ups.
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Quote:It is the new norm for when u2bg or us play other teams. If you dont like our d8 so be it dont take it out on our d6Yes it was. Though I am not happy that was said on the boards to possibly hurt that emps feelings if they figured out it was them, but yeah.
Do we really think 4 taunters / 2 emps is going to be the norm? Yeah its been done a couple times total but there have been 50 times more matches that were way more competitive since this started. -
Quote:Im just saying that it was not run because of lack of people having toons it was run because you had no faith in an emp.The story hasn't changed. That is why we did the 3 taunters/3 emps match that particular night. We did so based on who we had to play and when we realized we wouldn't have enough damage based on who we had to play to kill anything we decided to just go all the way and try to get a tie atleast. That was the 3 taunters/3 emps lineup.
4 people that only have taunters doesn't = 3 taunters and is a reference to an entirely different match that wasn't even an official. So yeah.
I don't need to change storys or make excuses. My teams lineups are based on whatever they want to bring or think will work based on who is there at the time and who we are fighting. The reasons for each lineup vary. The end result is that any team should be able to play whatever works best for them in the situation they happen to be in at the time.
d6ers are going to quit the league and probably pvp all together if the only matches they see are vs 4 taunters 2 emps. I know if i was a d6er id quit if that was the case. -
Jkwervo you still have not answered my question as to why you do not want a limit on taunters. You have only said that if you cap them cap others. This is legit why dont you want a cap? So you can force a draw? So teams can be lazy and not teach thier players to get better?
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If your team is not willing to help you learn, you are welcome to practice with us. Please inform me as to why you would not like a cap on taunters?
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Divine you are bad please keep your badness away from our thread.
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First off... Jav procs... All of -----divine's d6ers have their jav procs (base full of dup'd IOs ftw). Silits team has thier 4-5 blasters with jav procs and just switch people on to the account with the procs. BoBc had their jav procs. And Im sure a sprinkle of the players on the other teams have jav procs too, so saying that jav procs make that big a difference is a joke and accussing us of having the most jav procs is hillarious and not the point of this at all.
Ok to the real matter at hand...
This is being proposed not out of spite for fear of points.
D6 was suppose to be for fun and teaching of players. Teaching players to break taunt and to taunt is part of that, which is why we arent saying NO TAUNTERS AT ALL RAWR!!! We are saying limit it to 2 so that all matches are still on a competitive level. I did not propose this for d8 because we signed up to get screwed over the d6ers didnt. If your fear is that you will get blown out by another team bring 2 taunters... I promise that 2 taunters will lower the kill count to a 2-0 1-0 match. 4 taunters or 3 with 3 emps is solely being used as a way to deek over another team or force a draw. Force draws in d8 all you want, dont do that to d6ers that are trying to learn to pvp. Nyx Nu, Fates, and Elf Stalker all got one match last night and it was vs a taunt line up so they got no pvp at all. That means that for 2 weeks they get no pvp since we were suppose to fight I KNO ANN next week.
Kat I dont like how your story has change over time on the 3 emps 3 taunters vs u2bg. The orginal story was that you had to play an emp that was bad and therefore had to bring in 2 other emps to keep everyone alive, and with that you couldnt get a kill with 3 other people so you forced a tie. Now the story is that you have 4 people on your team that only have brutes and they all showed up and no one else did. This is not an attack at you but you cant play the ever calm victim of the engagement here o wait thats silit's phrase for -divine.
So lets say a d6 team wants to lower the score but still have a chance at winning but not playing for a tie under the proposed 2 taunter limit. One could bring 2 emps 2 stalkers 2 taunters. I wouldnt have a problem with that line up since it has a chance at getting a win and it can be beat even without a specific line up.
Here is what would happen if you limited it to 2 psi ems...... 2 emps 2 psi em 2 stalkers 1 rad sonic 1 insert disruption here
If you think that psi em damage is op and cant heal through it you are welcome to come practice with us and we will teach you the best we can.
If your only reason for wanting no cap on taunters is so that you can run BS line ups on d6 players to force draws then you have no ground to stand on. -
I just wanted to make sure everyone was aware.... Doyler loves the jonas brothers.
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SMD vs EP d6
13-4 SMD
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Quote:I know most of the players are having fun. I also know most of the captains are not. I think aside from the dUmbies (who always have fun) silit is the only captain that is enjoying thisYeah there's like ~15 people who ***** and moan and pretend there's drama. Everyone else I've spoken to just gets on with it and enjoys playing in competitive PVP. (Something COH really lacks at the moment.)
. Overall this league has been pretty fun and exciting but the drama and stress on us captain is rediculous. Its going to be tough to get a season 2 or ladder going unless some people step up to lead.
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The h0j made came out with a bang (not to be confused with @Bhang) in his first captains meeting. Creating Darth Slaxder aswell as the quick solution to a problem we would have no doubt debated for another good hour. Cheers on your promotion.
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Quote:Itd take a miracle for me to stick around and I think vex has said the same thing.I predict that a surprisingly large amount of people quit after the league ends.
-Kiri
There wouldnt be a need for d6 if more people would step up and be willing to lead a team. The d6 teams are the only ones that havent had drama and stuck around. There are a bunch of really talented individuals in d6 right now and I would miss having d6 people to teach but then again i wont be here for a league or ladder. If everyone stuck around that pvps and played another league or ladder you could field a good 8 teams in d8 the only problem is that there arent 8 people willing to lead. Second problem those of us who have lead in this one will probably quit the game or atleast not be in the league #2.
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Division 8
Leaders:
1. @Used Dex @Dex El Maltrose
2. @Vexington @Clairvoyants
D8:
3. @We Eat Rice @We Love Rice
4. @Mirage Mage @Nerfbait
5. @Exit
6. @Kirigami1
7. @RyRy @Ry-Ry
8. @Mr. Control @Mr. Control2
D6
@Championess
@ELF STALKER @ELF STALKER2
@Steatoda
@Nyx Nu
@Dyekid1 @Dyekid2 @Dyekid3
@Lady Inferno
@Johnny Handsome
@Sevanna-
@KGB FTW
[@Teh Habachi215 , @Hyper-Ai @Hyper Ai] Removed for not showing up in 4 weeks, was told to do this a week ago by peril but forgot about it. -
Quote:I approve. Its a good thing you said Elec tank if you had said dark tank and then ran an elec brute you woulda had to forfiet all your matches ever played.was it 8 tanks or 8 brutes?..because you know you have to bring a totally different line up if you thought they were tanks and it turns out they were brutes.
Yeah Kat you told us you didnt make the line ups and the team does which is kinda the way we do it here too. I usually suggest a line up and then get feedback. And please dont get me wrong, I am all for different line ups from the standard 2 emps 1 rad 5 blast. We just dont like a non competitive line up such as 5 taunters 3 emps. Not saying its not fair or illegal just we dont like it and our oppinion of your line ups really doesnt matter thats why its YOUR line ups but ill qq in a private channel about that. You will never hear me complain about a team trying to get an upper hand via an obscure line up as long as its competitive. Like dUmb rocking the MMs vs us on the tech lab that was just out smarting us they deserved the win, and they racked up a bunch of kills with the line up.
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