Captain Fabulous

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Woah there, WillyW. Easy on the coffee.
A lot of people are posting that they ARE trying the new rage on the test server and dislike it. They don't have to read this thread, as they're experiencing it first hand.

I don't care what happens to rage personally. My only beef is base dmg being low and end consumption being too high.

--malign

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WillyW is a troll and should be ignored. What he doesn't understand is there already IS a penalty for Rage. If he were actually knowledgable on the subjects in which he speaks, he would know that Unyielding barely absorbs the mez and therefore any "stun" effect during that 15 seconds will stun you and also the fact that no "casual" player will be 28th level without knowing the penalties of Rage and the benefits of Unyielding. His tone is condesending and rude and he apparently claims to know what the devs are thinking rather than waiting for them to actually inform us. Otherwise, why would they actually ASK US for our opinions and thoughts?

I suggest we all ignore him as he has nothing actually constructive to add to this thread. (He's already been overposting in other threads with his brand of misinformation.)

Apparently, he was denied pie as a child.

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Oh yes, my misinformation. U wanna be clueless. Fine, be clueless. If you can read and you can understand english you should be able to understand what Statesman said. He made himself very clear. If you can't well, just keep complaining like everyone else how badly you're gonna suck. Cause that's gonna help. Complaining always gets you far in life. Calling other people names gets you far too.

Apparently you weren't taught manners as a child. Either that or you're a spoiled brat.

But what do I know? I'm misinformed apparently.

Funny though how my INV/SS tank has rage, uses it when necessary and doesn't die (maybe cause I can count to 120 -- what's your excuse?). And how I can manage to solo, and team, do decent damage, and still not die.

For someone so incredibly misinformed I must be doing something right. Pity you aren't. But that's what happens when you call people names and don't listen. You stay ignorant.

And btw, you really should try to not contradict yourself when you attempt to make a point. Sorta makes you seem, well, misinformed. You say we should wait for the devs to inform us, but apparently when Statesman did, you didn't buy it ("also the fact that no "casual" player will be 28th level without knowing the penalties of Rage and the benefits of Unyielding"). I didn't say it. Statesman did. Perhaps he's misinformed too. Don't believe me? Check the very first post in this thread. Be careful now, don't overtax that teeny weeny itty bitty brain of yours.

See, I actually READ what the devs post. I am well aware of how unyielding and rage work now. I am also well aware of how Statesman said they SHOULD work now and don't, and how they WILL work in the future. But go and bury your head in the sand and continue to ignore. At the very least you're far more attractive that way.

OMG none of you have any idea how much I'm enjoying the irony of all this.

Apparently I'm the only one who is able to both read AND comprehend what Statesman has said.

In a nutshell: You've found a way to avoid the penalty of a penalty power that you shouldn't be able to avoid. And this gives you an advantage over someone (the "casual gamer" for lack of any better term) who is not in the know and may not have mez protection or not use it cause they don't know they can take advantage of an exploit.

An exploit you say? What? Unyielding an exploit? Yeah, when you're supposed to suffer a penalty for a penalty power and YOU'RE NOT, then I would call that an exploit. And apparently the devs do too.

But wait, here's the best part.

The new Rage on the test server actually has LESS OF A PENALTY than the one on live. That's right! Easier. Less of a penalty. Yeah I know, kicks ya in the [censored] don't it?

See, when rage crashes on live you're SUPPOSED to get disoriented, have your toggles drop, and be left helpless for 15 seconds. That's the way it's supposed to work, unless of course you use a mez protection and bypass the penalty altogether. But in doing that you've just taken advantage of a power and paid no penalty. Not supposed to happen that way. So those in the know use Rage scot-free, and those who aren't pay the penalty. Not very sporting, is it? And certainly not fair.

So they changed it. Now since some people complained about the stun being too much, the devs say to themselves, "hmmm... yeah, maybe the stun is a bit much. It does leave you without your toggles and helpless. Why don't we just drop their toggles instead of stunning them? At least this way they're vulnerable, but not helpless."

So the devs figure out a way to drop all your toggles WITHOUT stunning you and leaving you helpless. DING DING DING!! And how, boys and girls, might the devs accomplish such a thing? By reducing your endurance to zero! Toggles drop, no stun. You're left vulnerable, not helpless. Exactly as intended, with the added bonus of making sure that each and every time someone uses Rage, THEY PAY THE PENALTY. Cause there ain't nothing you can do to avoid that end bust. No buffing, no powers, no inspirations, nada. It's perfectly beautiful in it's simplicity. Kudos, devs, kudos!

Now for those who aren't keeping up, let's review:

Old Rage: 15 second disorientation, toggles drop, left helpless.
New Rage: Endurance set to 0, toggles drop. No disorientation.

Considering the devs are now dealing with the exploit involved here, it's apparent they're going to make sure that EVERYONE WHO USES RAGE IS GOING TO SUFFER THE PENALTY EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY USE IT. Whatever that penalty may be.

So ask yourselves this question before you complain about the new Rage: Would you rather be disoriented without toggles, or oriented without toggles? Cause if you really do prefer disorientation, toggle drop, and helplessness, I'm sure the devs would be happy to accomodate you.

Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!