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  1. And as God as my witness, I will never go trolling again!
  2. Why, Mrs. Trollbinson, are you trying to flame me?
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MentalMaden View Post
    Really watch Kate in the last 20 minutes next time you watch this. What a subtle performance of someone who knows what is going on, but handles the situation carefully so as not to startle Jack. It's also interesting she goes into the church in her concert "little black dress" but is wearing different clothes (more Kate-like clothes) in the chapel.
    Except for Kate's "awakening" face, I thought Evie Lilly really hit it out of the ballpark in this episode.

    Going from skeptical with Desmond to enlightened with Jack, it was a fine piece of work in the sideways. And on the Island, we finally got kick-*** Kate back.
  4. Hmmm, one thing I would like to have seen, rewatching the finale, is that the light at the end should ahve had a more yellow tint, to reflect the light of the Island.
  5. So I just got home from a friend's and turned on the reairing of the finale. So it is an enhanced rerun. Anything interesting pop up?
  6. Or, in another simplistic way, Smokey was the Devil Manipulator of the Island.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mandu View Post
    I certainly hope that there is nothing more. This is a series that really did tie up what it needed to and there is no reason to continue.

    Although I do know what they could do.

    Claire of course raises Aaron. Kate tells Sun's mother of the couples fate. When mom dies it turns out she has named Kate as the legal guardian of Ji Yeon. Ji Yeon and Aaron grow up together, fall in love, marry, and decide together to find the island. They go there, do some time leaping, and eventually become the replacements for Hurley and Ben.

    Don't blame me if ABC decides to do this. I just realized it's one possible way to revisit the island with known characters.
    Actually, I have an idea for Lost: The Next Generation. It would take place twenty years after the original (and actually be made 20 years from now). If you allow me to indulge myself:

    The pilot would center on a thirtysomething, married Walt (Malcolm David Kelly comes back). He has been having dreams of his father calling out to him. He decides to go back to the Island to find his father. He takes along his wife as they join the relaunch of...The Dharma Initiative. He joins DI because he remembers what he saw on the Island.

    In the new DI it is the work of grad students at UCLA after the DeGroots were kicked out of U of Michigan. Chief among the new crew going to the Island is Aaron Austen-Littleton. At this point, Kate and/or Claire is dead, as I doubt they would allow Aaron to join. Could be a rebellion thing. He doesn't remember anything about the Island, naturally, and he doesn't really know anything about Kate and Claire's experience there. He is as wily as Kate, but is smart.

    Elsewhere, Ji Yeon Kwon has finally inherited Paik Industries through the trust fund set up by Sun before she left to go back to the Island. She is a bit of a ruthless business woman. She has a bit of a love/hate rivarly with another young up and comer: Charlie Hume, who helps run Widmore Industries. They see each other a lot, as Paik and Widmore Industries have a long history of working together. In an attempt to get away from the pressures of their every day lives, Ji Yeon and Charlie decide to what rich folk do and sail across the Pacific in Charlie's dad's yacht: The Elizabeth. Of course, they crash onto the Island (paralleling Desmond's arrival).

    So you have the kids coming back as adults, with Walt only really knowing what is going on. I think the major plot points should be Walt, his specialness and visions drawing him back to the Island. Ji Yeon and Charlie Hume are basically the only heirs left to their family's business (Ji Yeon much more so, since Sun bought controlling interest in Paik Industries before she died) with Widmore Industries basically being a tool of Charles Widmore to return to the Island for a long time.

    The thing is, I think the key would be having the offspring of the Losties be more at peace (save for Walt) with their lives than their parents. You wouldn't want to repeat yourself with having them be as obviously flawed. And you would have to have as big a cast as the original Lost, because the main focus shouldn't only be the offspring. Mix in some other folk to round it out.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mandu View Post
    Actually they have said that in the complete series box set there will be an additional 30 minutes in the final episode. An interview type thing where they explain the answers that they were planning on revealing but couldn't fit in. And an additional short feature (14 minutes was the time given) showing Hurley and Ben doing their #1 and #2 routine that happened between Jack's death and the reunion in the afterlife.
    True.

    But there won't be anymore seperate entertainment concerning Lost with Team Darlton at the helm. So, they are planning no spin-offs or big movie adaptations. The extra stuff on the DVD is just that: extra stuff, not an extension of the brand.

    However, they have admitted that they don't own the rights to Lost and recognize it is a big money maker for ABC, so they wouldn't be surprised if ABC continues the brand in some way.
  9. I think "Across The Sea" will play better when it is watched coupled with "What They Died For" back to back on the DVD. Jacob's speech at the end of WTDF is much more powerful if you just watched his own struggles a few minutes before. And that is what ATS was supposed to show: the "God" of The Island was just a man, caught up in his own problems and faults.

    I also think ATS perfectly encapsulates the problem with getting answers. Since Lost has always been framed as a "Characters against the backdrop of mysteries," we were never going to get a straight up Island history episode. Even when we learned about Rousseau's team in S5, it was through the eyes of Jin. So, to learn about the source of power of the Island, it was going to have to be against the backdrop of Jacob and Samuel. And since Lost has always been big in biblical allegories, of course they were going to be brothers who bickered and where one was favored over the other.

    Now, ATS had some noticeable problems: some of the dialogue was painful and I think they stuck with J and S being kids for too long. But I think the overall theme and gist of the episode was typical Lost.

    As far as the Sun/Jin reunion? Yes, too brief. But they had so many reunions over the years, it wasn't like we have never seen them reunite before. And, despite people's complaint re: Ji Yeon, I think their last "living" scene together was nicely done.
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  11. He tried to post a thread in a very uncomfortable place.
    What, like the back of a Volkswagen?
  12. The only thing about the flash sideways I kinda didn't like is I don't think it will help illuminate anything when someone watches Season 1-5 again. Unlike previous flashes, it doesn't really tie into the main story.

    Now, that would be the case even if it was a more straightforward epilogue as well. However, it does now cry out for a rewatch of Season 6, based on what we know now. And I think, in time, more people who come to accept the flash sideways as it own separate story, one that you can easily ignore, if you wish.
  13. Just a reminder: The finale and Jimmy Kimmel's Special reairs tonight on ABC, starting at 8 PM.

    While I watch the finale a third time in a week? Possibly.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by GATE-keeper View Post
    My feeling is that the producers/writers just ran out of time and decided to go with a hand wave as an explanation for the Numbers. That very lame excuse just convinces me more. If becoming a parent disqualified one from becoming a candidate, then the Kwon's would have been disqualified as well.
    Ah, but he said mothers, not parents! Techincally, Sawyer is a dad. Which ties into Jacob's mother issues.

    Also, a possible explanation as to why Sun did not travel back to 1977 (other than plot contrivance to keep the Kwons apart): All the candidates were reunited in the past...plus Kate.

    I like the Valenzetti Equation and Jacob's Number explanation cause I can fanwank them together: if one of the Numbers changes (as in, another candidate takes over), then the world is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by GATE-keeper View Post
    I prefer the "Valenzetti Solution" as a more elegant answer to the question of "what are The Numbers."

    (I should note that - to me, at least - The Numbers are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. The other 354 are just integers.)

    The solution of "they're just Jacob's candidates" leaves too many unanswered questions. Primarily, what's so significant about 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 compared to the other 354 integers? It can't be that they represent Jacob's final 6, because 4-Locke was not one of the final six candidates but 51-Austen was.
    They were the final 6 candidates that Jacob thought would want to take the job. While he said Kate could still take over, he did cross her off for becoming a mother.

    And 51 is 15, backwards
  16. We're not trolls! Not that there is anything wrong with that.
  17. We have to go troll, Kate! We have to go troll!
  18. Teacher says every time a thread is flamed, a troll gets its wings.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zikar View Post
    By the way, I dunno if this is the same with anyone else...

    but did anyone else laugh whenever Ben got beaten up? My family always chuckled when that happened.

    It's not that we have it in for the character, it just seemed like every episode someone was punching him in the face, it was almost like a running joke
    As Michael Emerson said, he believed he was in a comedy sometimes
  20. Michael Emerson to narrate Science special "Creating Synthetic Life"

    Great, as if Emerson's voice wasn't creepy enough, now he is going to do the VO for something about creating artificial life?
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MentalMaden View Post
    Why is it people have such a hard time understanding what the Dharma Initiative was?

    Bunch of hippy scientists studying the properties of the island (and other experiments) to try and save the world. It's not that cryptic.
    And they may have been brought to the Island via Jacob (I believe the name "Goodspeed" was a name of the cave wall).

    I do like what someone in this thread suggested (I forgot who, so I apologize): Dharma represented the science side of "saving the world" to Jacob's faith side. Is it any coincidence that Dharma found a way of controlling the Smoke Monster, in terms of the sonic fence and maybe even building the Barracks ontop of the Plug of Smokey Ben has used?
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by _Echoo_ View Post
    A report card: 50 Questions Lost Needed to Answer from io9. Looks like they didn't score too well.
    Thing is, everyone had a different list of things that HAD to be answered. Some questions overlapped, of course, but it just goes to show you the show would never be able to please everyone

    I like people who said the Hurleybird question had to be answered. Lost already "answered" that in the Season 2 finale, via Hurley remarking upon and Sawyer mocking him about. In other words, Lost was saying "That isn't even a question!"
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by _Echoo_ View Post
    I would've guessed the same really, but weirdly the creators did use the midichlorian excuse for the numbers several years ago, but then went on to unveil the Valenzetti Equation more recently. It seems they either changed their mind about it or invented the Equation later.
    Actually, the reverse, sorta. Valenzetti Equation came between Seasons 2 and 3. The Midichlorian excuse, I first heard last year. Previously, their answer to the "How will you explain everything?" was along the lines of "We will use pseudoscience (fringe science, heh) to try to explain everything." Which was obviously a misdirect of sorts.

    On the other hamd. this season they did adress the Numbers as being Numbers assigned to the Candidates, so they did end up explaining something they previously said didn't matter or weren't going to.
  24. This thread needs an enema.
  25. ::flames the thread::

    I am so troll. I am so troll. T-R-L-L. I mean, T-R-O-L-L.