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Which is a problem for some folks, as the Well of the Furies is very origin specific.

Me I don't care. I'll take any power I can get at any time.

Great points. I think what folks are simply saying is for the devs not to abandon that style of play. Story arcs are the bread and butter of building a story in this game. I think folks are just poking the devs to not forget about that. I also think a side issue is the focus on Preatoria. If you don't like that storyline, what then? I think it's one of the things that prompted that thread earlier this week that some community reps commented on, asking for feedback on what storylines should be continued/re-focused on in COH.

One of the problems with the market leader is that the Raiding Endgame system has caused the lower level areas to dry up in terms of available people to team with. Even after an expansion that was supposed to revitalize those lower level areas.

It's a constant problem with MMORPGs that keep upping the RAID system.

However with the way COH is set up I think they can avoid that.

Eh, from those statements of his it seems like he is coming at it from an RP perspective rather than a mechanics one.

Actually for a lot of the newer MMORPGs you DON'T need to team, at all, to great rewards. I can't really discuss it without falling afoul of the no comparisons rule, so I'll put that aside for now.

And in this game, no I don't expect a bubbler to always bubble as it's not always necessary. And in some instance due to the level of power individual players have built into their characters, a bubbler is irrelevant. That's the thing about the this game (unlike many other MMORPGs), which you alluded to. Multiple ATs can fill multiple roles. So much so that the level of interaction you might need with a holy trinity style set up in other games, just isn't necessary here.

Relating to that is why speed runs are so successful, and why it's possible to do some tasks in this game without anyone having to say a word. Some of the stuff you can speed through in this game you could NOT do it if buffs worked the same way they do in other games. I don't think that's a bad thing at all mind you.

I agree that teaming is worthy of reward. My question is for this game, when has it never been well rewarded?

To me social interaction actually means talking to folks. Getting on a speed run, not saying a word and simply completing your task/role isn't interaction. It's replaying something that's been programmed into you via repeatedly doing the content to the point of perfection. For many folks that's not fun nor is it interactive socially. Sure it's interactive in completing tasks you've been programmed via repetition to do, but it's sure as hell not universally as fun as cracking jokes, discussing comics, and talking about builds on the forums or Global Channels. THAT is why I say teaming =/= social interaction.

As for those other mmorpgs it can often be WORSE, as you're so busy worrying about dps rotations ,healing rotaitons, reapplying VERY short duration buffs and debuffs, and when to do specific tasks to the microsecond so that the entire raid doesn't wipe based on your mistake, that you don't really do anything I would call social interaction. THAT DOES NOT sound AT ALL like fun. Sorry. It's the reason many folks who play this game DON'T. PLAY. THOSE.

Thankfully the other two Superhero mmos have avoided adding that nonsense to their endgames.

I think that is why folks despise Raiding systems and are VERY wary of COH adopting that model. I think they are worrying a little about nothing but I can definitely see where they are coming from.

Am I mistaken but isn't the current Market (Wents/Black market) cross server with EU?

EDIT: Honestly they need to merge the EU list with the US list and offer you guys free transfers, so that you have at least SOME characters that can get into teaming when your home EU servers are ghost towns, at certain times.

For lower population servers that will be a large, glaring issue.

Hopefully the cross server aspect that's being hinted at comes out sooner than later.

Uhhh I don't think folks don't know where the powers came from by now.

I'd argue the Devs care whether EVERY SINGLE PLAYER likes their content or not. They will also strive to improve such content based on feedback given to them. Hence the changes to make the Incarnate Content more soloale. The devs realize also that they can't please everyone all the time, but ARE (unlike some foolish posters in this thread) willing to hear the criticism. That's what makes the game great and doesn't seem to be changing based on some threads posted by Red Names in the last few days. So no, you cannot say no one cares if so and so likes the content, as saying that shows you don't know what you're talking about.

So no, there are some folks who care whether Sam or you or me likes the content. If he doesn't they want to know why. And if they can they fix it they will, if they can't they will simply note what someone like Sam likes and try to EVENTUALLY create that. (Whether Sam [or folks like Sam] wish to wait for that is a different story.)

Social interaction =/= teaming. Hell I've seen LESS social interaction in speed runs. Ive been on speed runs and regular teams where NO ONE talks. I'd bet eventually the same will be of these trials. With just the raid leader giving out instructions.

I get more social interaction from the Global Chat Channels than some teams. This idea that teaming = social interaction in game is a fallacy (especially for this one).

And thankfully this MMORPG isn't like the dreck that's out there.

EDITs: To clean up words and meanings.

Doesn't make them any less unimpressive.

I think folks get where they come from. That's the issue with the design.

Folks are requesting alternate pets for the system. I don't think the suggestion is unreasonable.

But I don't see that option happening any time soon or for ANY of the currently revealed slots.

Getting those accolades became trivial since being able to set those EBs to level 49.

Just saying, accolades used to be considered hardcore. They haven't been for a long, long time.

As players complain about ambushes from hell, I'd argue that GR being a 90% solo expansion is VERY arguable. The devs may have meant it to be mainly soloable, but that's (besides the FORCED solo missions) NOT the perception I get from the playerbase at large.

Yeah those procs are win. Some of them are as high as a 25% chance.

Again, pure win.

As an aside, is it me or does it seem like for what we've seen so far of the Incarnate System, but won't buffers and deffuing based toons become the most powerful toons? I mean with ally buffs, AOE attack, Praetorian pet backing them up, Alpha to fill any holes their builds may be, and the awesome debuff/buff procs, it seems to me that players of buffing/debuffers should be in heaven.

the AOEs and buffs look awesome. The pets, not so much. But that's mainly because as time goes on I'm getting more and more sick of Praetoria. But it has nothing to do with how powerful those pets may or may not be once we get to test them.

I was just stating to use it as both you and Sam were getting a little to serious.

/shrug

If you like the stress go right ahead.

I'd like if they did this instead of sticking us with Praetorian pets. NONE of the pets impress me, because none of those mob type impress me. I don't see them giving us a to scale size Warwalker (the ONLY impressive one to me).

Seriously, they seem to be needlessly obsessed with that world. It ain't that impressive folks.

We have?

As I've said the Ignore button is your friend.

EDIT: Bottom line if folks like issue 20 fine, if folks think it's imperfect fine. Both have a right to say so. I love Issue 20, but so far with what's been announced/revealed by testers it's faaaar from perfect.

It seems then that folks are arguing about nothing if everything you and Bill posted is 100% true about each side. (Like I believe that for a minute.)

More realistically BOTH sides of the argument have misrepresented each other greatly.

Same here!

Issue 19 (including 19.5 in this) B+ as it intro'd/advanced the Incarnate Content forward. I would have given it an A if running lower level content dropping shards had been implemented BEFORE the WST.

GR was an A. Hands down (even with some of the bugs). It gave us more lower level content that many wanted.

Issue 20 looks to be an A-.

This would be EXTREMELY mind numbingly disappointing.

Put him on ignore and quickly scroll past his posts when they are quoted. I've been doing that for years for folks I want to ignore.

If you can't do that don't come to a public discussion forum.

EDIT: Or if you think his posts are that offensive report him to a mod. But I'd bet money you won't get very far.

The forums aren't just for saying "oh yay everything is great" with COH. They have NEVER been that way, and I don't think the devs would find nothing but praise useful. I think we as a community give them more than enough praise that we're entitled to state when we don't like something.