funny, i was having such a hard time holding anything in a PvP zone at all, stealth did me no good, arctic air seemed to have no effect at all, and a stalker sat still for 2 minutes while i tried to hit him with a hold, i couldn't even get a hit in, i have every hold i have 2-3 slotted for acc, and i missed with everything i had, there was no elude/mog style power running either... i am very turned off to PvP with my controller, it's seems like the CoV equivelents of CoH powers work alot better... the only thing that the heroes have going for them right now is numbers