American_Pie

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I read this post when I 1st made my blaster. I considered it the holy grail of blaster help, and yes it contains a lot of good knowledge and tips.....HOWEVER I have came to a very harsh conclusion:

This guy has no idea what he's talking about with the electric blaster set. None. Nada. Zip.

By the time I read this post, I was already a lvl 12 elec blaster, and my heart broke. It just broke.....cause I had a gimped main. Well, I fought on and kept leveling, and now at 32, I'm proud to say: THIS DUDE IS WRONG.

He just hasn't figured out how to use an elec blaster.....and I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but the initial posting of this guide did a LOT of damage for the reputation of the electric blaster set. I'm in Brickstown and FF now....and I can solo Red bosses surrounded my minions. I can fly in and suck the blue off any mob I want and leave them standing there picking thier nose. No, we don't do as much damage, but we are the ONLY defensive blaster set. That's right....we can hold our pray, and have multiple ways of rendering them completely helpless. It will take you longer to level initially with an Elec blaster, but by the time the mid 20s to 30 hit, you "Will Start To Believe".

Even Geko himself has stated that once PvP hits, elec will be THE set to have. He spoke of the clockwork and said if you think they can drain a target, it's nothing compared to another player. We are NOT gimped. Once we DO have PvP, I would be MORE than happy to prove it.

Sorry....I just had to step in and defend my toon (and all the other shockers out there).

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Yep, said that a loooong time ago. Check the early pages

Don't believe everything you read.

Definitly not a sleep effect on electricity. Sleep generaly lasts a long time and you see a big Zzz over their heads.

I dont know if electric does actually stun or if its a graphic thing, very possible it is just an interrupt.

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so whats the big diff in an energy 1-2 shotting a mob and the elec doing the same? Drain or knockback...pfft wtf cares.

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/agree

guess I was wrong to make an electric blaster, Ill never be 40!

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wow. imean.. just wow.
rob puts up a PL guide and of course all the RPGers start complaining that PLing is dumb. If you don't like it, DONT DO IT!!!

and then all the elec/whatever people start talking about "im not inferior! i refuse to believe i chose wrong for PLing!". how can you even pretend that end drain is "just if not more" effective as knockback. when you knock a mob back, they're down for the 2-5 sec's they're alive whereas with end drain, they lose a miniscule % of their end and shoot at you 1-2 times... see how it matters pie?
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Come see me on justice anytime.

Admit it, endurance drain is far inferior to knockback and slow.
For powerleveling it is completely useless. You kill mobs that
pose no risk and can be massacred as fast as possible

Your position that electricity is worse than the other AT's because mobs will die too fast to make endurance drain effective doesnt make sense.

If mobs die too fast, then none of the secondary effects really dont come into play in PL.

With Endurance drain, I dont have have bypass groups with bosses or multiple bosses or multiple LT's.

I'll add that character you have to my friends list on test, Im stuck in *outbreak* atm.

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Oh yea, that must be it...they're "envious"...

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Yes I believe so. Why does anyone care if someone is 40? Does it impact your game that someone else is 40?

So, why should someone who is say level 20 care that a level 40 has not enjoyed the game and skipped all the content, especially since its not true.

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I read the guide, good stuff. I like the info and will use the advice. I mean no disrespect to my fellow CoH gamers when I say...

I was a little "saddened" by the post, although as a newbie to the game I expected it.

I think this game is immersive, lots of back-story. Killing baddies is just part of the fun, gets the blood pumping when you narrowly avoid death or run away with a sliver of life. The more immersed you get, the more actual time you spend reading the contacts information, looking at clues, trying to contribute to the society of Paragon City, the MORE you blood is going to pump from the sheer excitement of the action in the game. Yes, I believe the powergamer misses out on the true "action" in the game even though they think they're all about the action aspect, ironic.

Do you care when a character that hasn't been developed in a movie is killed? No. In RPGs your involvement in the development of your character isn't half as interesting, exciting or pulse pounding if you haven't let yourself become immersed in the world.

I believe the highs you feel running around burning foes with your blaster as a power gamer who has broken the statistics down to their lowest common denominator, built the 'best' on paper character who specifically avoids back-story or development as an inefficient waste of time (IE why bother creating a cool costume for your powergamer character, just take a default) I believe your highs aren't as high as my highs in the game. Sorry if that sounds arrogant or if you think I really can't "know" how someone feels in a game or how much enjoyment he derives, but I do know, and I know you're missing out by being a "powergamer". You're missing out most on the very aspects of the game you purport to specialize in.

This is nothing new. I see it in all computer games. I saw it in dice and pencil RPGs years ago. The DM and his pals who gave out ridiculous magic items and had millions of hit points didn't play D&D very long. Me and my friends who played with a stingy DM and played in a fertile world that unfolded like a story before us would play the same campaign for years and years.

I really don't mean any offence to the powergamers. In fact, for all those of you who got your level 40 in one week of playing and have all your sockets in the mathematically most efficient slots for maximum NPC damage dealing here, I bestow upon you your rightful gift. A cookie. Enjoy.

Bernie Goetz, crime fighter extraordinaire

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Thats a big misconception that everyone level 40 skipped the content. Levels dont really matter, time played does. I've done just about every mission and I hit 40 within a month of release. I also helped my SG level up, so I was rarely xping solo, mainly after 34.

I think people are more envyous of others ability to play alot rather than their level.

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American_Pie, maybe if you'd actually read what I posted, you'd know the answer. Electricity blasters are still blasters and therefore still good at powerleveling. They are simply inferior to any other blaster. If you had chosen any other blaster primary you'd have gotten to 40 even faster.

Of course, you failed to mention any statement I made that you didn't agree much less the reasons for it. Here is a simple fact: for the single target fighting style, ice and energy both are better at it for the reasons I describe. Energy, for instance, is basically just an in-all-ways superior version of electricity. We have the same three basic attacks (the 4/8 second nuke and snipe) except Energy gets the useful knockback while you get the useless endurance drain. Plus, energy gets a 3rd heavy nuke for which electricity has no equivelent. It is insane to claim that electricity will somehow magically be able to kill as quickly when it has inferior tools to do so.

So, please, instead of insisting I don't know what I am talking about, explain exactly why you think that electricity will powerlevel as fast as energy or ice. (It is a given that all 3 are inferior to fire/assault rifle so we can just ignore them in the discussion).

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Think I made my point by saying that I was 40 before most others. exceptions were the caltrops/ignite exploiters. I was first to 40 in my supergroup too, beating the energy/energy and assault/device blasters.

There is no one AT that is faster, it depends on play style and tactics.

Saying one whole class sucks based on your buddies playing is misinformed. If you want to see how an electric blaster is played, roll a toon on Justice or on Test. I'll show you how worthless endurance drain is.

One last comment: American_Pie, my housemate is a level 36
electric blaster. Name any comment I've made that is uninformed.
I've watched him play a whole lot, played beside him a whole lot,
and the simple fact is that electricity blasters are inferior to
other blasters for powerleveling purposes. I'm sorry that you
have a level 40 electric blaster and don't want to admit that you
aren't as good as the other primary power sets. Go complain to
the developers that endurance drain has to be improved, attacking
the messenger is pointless.

Then your buddy dont know how to play. If Electric is so bad at Powerleveling, how come I was one of the first 40's?

Don't judge everything by the hero planner. Not all 'moderate' damage is the same. *snip* And Explosive Blast does a little less damage than does Energy Torrent. The labels don't really help you, you need to go out and use the powers or get advice from people who have.

Should probably talk to someone who HAS played an electric blaster to high levels. You electric information is misinformed.