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Devs, you guys are awsome! I had faith I might can even pull posts to prove it.
Crow is good?
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+1 for us!!!!! As I said else where, How does that crow taste?
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lighthouse has no choice to say that ..
he works there..
ever see a community rep saying..you know what..i agree they blow. its his job after all
it seems to me that the "case' here is anything with effort as far as powersets were squashed to give to the quicker more easy set
we already know that we're getting new animations..but any animations different from the mold has already been nerfed and changed to the mold . i see new animation going in..but i see them being chnaged down the road..
remember when its all said and done...i wanted shields and would have waited longer for alittle more work then a rushed dual katana..oops i mean blade,
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I'd much rather have the content I11 will bring sooner with the inclusion of the two power sets rather than later with the inclusion with shields which sounds like a LOT more work. I11 ISN'T JUST ABOUT POWERSETS! IT'S ABOUT MORE CONTENT THAN THAT!
So to ANYONE who suggests this again..... BAD! *Smacks them on the nose with a newspaper.*
I love you folks but some people are small-minded and not looking at a bigger picture.
Also. I am happy with the way the blades are depicted in the Screen Shots. I hope it goes across the board as I stated before. (Except, again, maybe have a remesh for stalkers.)
Love ya'll,
Me. <3
P.S. I reread my stuff, and I'm cracky from a bad nap. I will not change what I post as I feel opinions matter and changing how I initially felt would be dishonest to my brain. And I love my brain, it makes me do stuff I like to do. But yes. He claims 'rushes dual blades' but if they were to make shields in time before this years end they'd be just as rushed. Now let people who WANT the power set get it. You already admit to being willing to wait, and they said they ARE working in shields. So hold that sphincter tight and wait like you claim you can do.
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I am not one, but there are a ton of people who play this game and NEVER read the story. For some people it is about new powers and shinies. -
I did vote for dual blades. I just want the blade to look exciting, and not just the animation
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"Oh look mom, two forks!". I can't help to laugh when the first thing I see are two very dull looking dual blades, for a hero. And while I always have gave the Devs a glimmering hope of rational, this just seems lame on every aspect. Especially after all the weapons mentioned : Staff, sai's, warhammer, dual guns etc, they decide to do dual swords...
I know while all you unimaginative/japanophiles are basking in the glory of all that is two swords, I find myself thinking, "Thats it?". So were basically getting two swords and an advanced Invul. so the frankengun will still look the same, no dual guns, and finally no change to the gawdy and banana like Spines. Really im just more dissapointed. And as for those saying "the blades look that way due to beta"...save it, the katana looked dull for 5 issues after release so dont bother. And yes I wish to have more weapons for scrappers but can we atleast agree on that some of us (not infatuated with japan) want more Nordic or Medieval weaponary, hell I'll even take Chinese weaponary aslong as its not a sword.
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D you really think LH would have made the post it there were no changes comming to dual blades? In truth I do not think we will see full PC in i11, but I do think there will be weapon custamazation, or something close to it. I may wrong, this time I don't think so.
There have just been too many slips, and lack of denial for there to not be something in the pipes. For over 3 years now I have watched the posting habits of these devs. If something is not going to happen they let us know before the fire of speculation gets out of control, they have not done that this time. Positron even had a chance to say it was not comming in his "Not" list. BAB has only said it would be difficult, instead of the before "It can not be done, because..."
There are just too many clues that would lead to OC/WC (Weapon Custamazation). If am wrong I will have no problems admiting it after i11 is out. It would not be the first time I had to make a post saying I was wrong. For the record the last think I felt this way about was costume recipe drop rates in i9 beta, and it ended up changing any way. The question is, Will the nay sayers be as willing to admit they were wrong? -
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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How about passing on the concept of being able to chose your blades? Future, Relic, Mystical, Sammy, ect from the option menu? I bet that would quell alot of problems. I know Posi once said that the powers origin for blasts points and colors were "hard baked" but why not rework the new sets? Then see if you can backwards engineer it
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I liked what you've done here. You went from "how about Power Customization?" when we've been told time and time again why we won't see that in the near future, to equating changing the colors of blasts (which is the easiest part of the thing that will take dev-years to do) to changing weapon models, which I imagine is even more complicated.
Suffice it to say this is not going to happen. I agree with the poster above that what we see now is pretty much what we're going to get.
You don't have to like it, but realize that the workaround suggested is not going to happen for I11.
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And if/when it does happen, I will be glad to make a post asking all of the nay sayers how crow tasts. (best I could do.) -
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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LH you are awsome. I think that in its self is an i11 hint! Thanks also for letting us know we are being heard. -
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anyone who thinks two full length swords can't be wielded at the same time has never seen an Eskrimador doing double sinawali.
Would I have been happy with shorter swords? Yes, absolutely
Would I have been happy with two different length blades like rapier and main gauche? Oh yes, absolutely
am I *unhappy* with the two scimitars? Not at all, I love them.
what I don't get is all the fans of the rascal double daggers... Huh? seriously? .... why??
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I have, and the swords are shorter than these. I have also used dual swords in the SCA and in LARPing. Two swords that long would be as much a danger to the weilder as the enemy. I have also used various sized dual blades in Eskrima/Kali/Arnis.
The reason people like the red cap daggers is because they look wicked. They have a dangerous comic book feel to them.
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I imagine the pics were released to get peoples' reaction to the current looks and it probably isn't too late for them to make scaling adjustments for the blades or tinting for the willpower if it looks like a majority of people seem unhappy with them.
I think the blades look fine, was hoping for more of a one long and one short blade combo, though. The blades for the female model really need to scale down more, they look way too big and unwieldy. The ones the guy has seem sized pretty well. If the scaling for the blades is as bad for huge models as it is for the female model, then the blades might look rather puny when used by huge models. I think the huge model needs a huge blade, like a Khopesh.
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I agree the Huge model would go very well witht eh Copesh. For scrappers I was hopeing for the 300 Spartan Sword. , rather than the scimitar. -
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Well, I think alot of the player reaction (on the forum) anyways, isn't that Dual Blades doesn't sound like a cool set...but it really seems to alot of people (could be true) that DB won out because it got the most votes because everyone did this...
#1 Yeah, this sounds cool
#2 Everything else doesn't interrest me, so I'll go with Dual Blades.
I know that's kinda how I went. #1 Psi Weapon (and when I say Psi Weapon I picture Psylocke, Cyblade, and RIFT Cyberknights :P ).
All the other choices were "meh" to me.
Electric Hammer? We have Electric Melee already, why add a hammer to it? To make Thor Clones?
Shield Offense? How many Shield users in comics (super hero not fantasy) actually use a shield for offense? Not many. And those that do, are usually inspired by Caps himself.
Energy Sword? We have Energy Melee (except for scrappers), and personally, I was worried it would be to much like a lightsabre. SW is cool...but this isn't SW.
The devs, I'm sure knew they'd get flak. I'm sure they realize some will be upset with another Lethal set.
Tho I don't know if I think your choices of Warhammer or Streetfighting is any more innovated. Especially sinse you seem to not like the idea of another Lethal set, when those two sets would be smashing.
Me...I'd just like to see another "elemental" set for scrappers myself....whether it be fire/ice/energy/electric/or something new.
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*shrug* it's a bunch of people rushing to judgement based on a few screenshots, what did you expect?
The commentary that matters will happen once Closed Beta begins. Until then this is pretty much white noise.
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Dual Blades Should Be shorter Like this:
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Whats really sad is I have a set of those... I just wish the design was more stylized. My kid comes up with more exciting designs on note book paper.
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I wish they had of gone with a model that is less...dull. Like the swords from 300.
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Well with the pics of Dual scimitars floating around, our hopes and dreams of it being a selectable weapon model may be in the crapper. Keep you fingers crossed that I am wrong.
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Only one thing is sure, the Devs are evil! and even more so if this dosen't come out soon. I am more excited about this, than Christmas!
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Why is everyone thinking Aeon needs help time traveling?
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Or maybe Manticor and recluse are the only ones that know history is out of shape. So they could be working together to restore the natural order.
As I recall from the comic and the books, Manticore was just a child when his parents were murdered. Where as here they were alive into his 20s.
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Wow, not much more to say. This promises to be a huge issue. They said that there would be big story stuff over the next few issues, they wern't lieing!
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Who cares what kind of damage it does, though? I honestly don't get it. If it's cool and it works, err... Who cares?
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Not me. As I said before: More Fighting yaaaaa! -
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Cripes...
We're still on this?
Look, the decision has been made. The votes were tallied.
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This argument has been already been de-bunked in this very thread by Back Ally Brawler himself. There was no "vote", just a "poll". The devs took the poll into consideration, but also "other factors", which where not mentioned by name.
BTW: Shields won that poll, but was left out.
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So, euphemisms is your game now, huh? A rose is a rose, good player.
Also, I read that one about Shields before. I figured I'd covered that concept with an earlier post.
As I insinuated, but perhaps didn't spell out too clearly, the devs now have a good idea of where to work for the next powersets to implement.
And oh yeah... From that poll/vote/tally/<insert synonym here>/etc., STREET FIGHTING STILL LOST.
Again... Why are we still on this?
Frankly, I'd rather have some of those improvised weapons set ideas you threw out earlier. The baseball bat or the 2X4 would be downright entertaining!
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I did not say I voted for street sighting. Frankly I can't remember what I voted for. The problem isn't that DB won, the problem is that the devs are treating CoH and CoV as one game.
MAKE DB A VILLAIN ONLY POWERSET!
Thanks for the 2x4 vote! Imagine the fun of smashing the Trolls Supes lab with a chunk of pine!
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People have been posting very solid arguments against making Dual Blades a Villains only powerset and you seem to be content with ignoring them all the while repeating your talking points ad nauseum.
Seriously? Are you just sitting there in your chair with your fingers in your ears saying, "Nah nah nah nah nah"?
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They could do rare Procs that add a perma type to an attack.
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You mean change the damage type of the attack it's in? I don't think it is possible with the current engine. That special would have to go and take away damage, and then add the exact same back but in a different type.
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This is already in the invention system. Now it is just in a limited chance form. Example mantior's Sting has a chance for +Poision dmg. all that would need to be done is make that chance 100%. I am saying add, not replace. -
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Statesman, im calling you out. This power set has NOTHING to do with comic book heroes.
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Ah, but it has everything to do with players recreating their GW, EQ and WoW characters in CoH; which is the mindset of how the majority of players vote.
"Hmm. How can we make CoH more like every other fantasy MMORPG? I know! Loot and more medieval weapons! Yay!"
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I did not vote for it for any of those reasons, as I never played those games. Also I think the choice was for dual weapond. I wanted escrima sticks, but I can live with blades. -
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not to mention the animation will be ripped from the exsisting powersets making it not even close to being new.
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Every attack animation for Dual Blades is completely new. Both Stalkers and the other AT versions.
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How has no one picked up on this awesome Redname ownage?
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Mostly because it's old news. This is the second time BaBs has said more or less the same thing, and Posi said it once before that. I was actually quite surprised that someone thought all the Dual Blades animations would be ripped off old stuff. WHAT old stuff, I don't know.
I mean no disrespect. It's just not the first time this has been said.
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I can answer the where question. Crotoa's red caps use dual daggers, also many of the spines, or claws animations could have been used. I am aware also, and ahve been for sometime, that Dual blades is a new set in every way. Most who frequent these boards should.
I suggest that most people check the dev digest and community digest once a day to keep from making suggestions like that and looking uninformed, or getting massivly flamed on. Just a little friendly advice