Zaion

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    To be Fair...I guess you would need to mention how developers across the board use each others ideas to help springboard new ideas...looking at innovation can you tell me how many games allow you to ahve super powers as opposed to magic powers? And while looking at innovation and story lines how many other games use the same material or anime or anything else. While your observation of what was said may make you think one thing please dont kill the guy for telling you what he thought of.
    Now aside from "defending" someone who most likely doesnt need it...Add some positives with your negatives.

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    Oh I already did that, sort of. I mentioned how like every game has drawn from AO. Like instancing, a big part of WoW is their personal dungeon instancing. Now this was originally done in AO, but nowhere near to the same effect. Every game builds a lot on older ideas from older games. Some games come up with a lot of new things to add to the mix, but then there's a lot of stuff they've just used from older games.

    To answer your question about super powers, I can think of a few Asian games where player characters are basically ordinary people that gain "super powers." Nothing based on Marvel comic books like CoH though. Though there are a lot of games based on Manga.

    My point wasn't to say CoH has nothing new or innovative in it. Just that a lot of this update is pulled directly from AO with very few changes. It's not "similar" it's almost exactly the same. Right down to the sky turning green as an invasion begins.
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    An ancient Hebrew wise man once said that there is nothing new under the sun.

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    That's ludicrous. Or are you saying micro-chips and nano-technology have always existed on earth?

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    You've admitted that AO draws their inspiration from books and/or movies.

    That's not innovation, that's adaptation. Innovation means bringing into existance something that's never been accomplished before.

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    I did not admit that, I said possibly. Either way, you're still wrong. Inspiration can lead to innovation. A book about aliens and a game where a player is interacting and fighting invading aliens are two completely different things. Adaptation would be watching aliens invade in a game and not interacting with it in any way. The innovation is adding that interactiveness, it's new, not in the book or movie. You are no longer watching or reading about it, but "living" it.

    To be fair, Cryptic added the bombs to their invasion. They were inspired by AO, then adapted it to fit CoH, then added a bit of new functionality to it. There is some innovation in that.
  3. Possibly books or movies, but not other games.

    These forums really aren't about discussing other games, so I'm not going to go into details (I could go on for pages). I'll just say that AO has done nothing but innovate since it's launch. Pretty much every game out there has drawn from it. Veteran rewards and private zone instancing (inc missions) are other features in CoH that were first introduced in AO. I suppose even the super group bases in CoH are just a combination of the player cities and notum installations in AO. Though I'm not sure on that last one since I don't have much experience with super group bases.
  4. It's quite obvious Anarchy Online was more of a source for this content than the little bible references. The Rikti Invasion events are basically pulled directly from the Alien Invasion events when that AO expansion went live. Rikti Warzone with vanguard merits to unlock new armors and powers = Alien Playfields/Missions from AO with victory points used to unlock new armors and powers.
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    Aliens that aren't aliens but evolved humans from another dimension? Redeemed/Unredeemed from Shadowlands in AO.
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    I don't mean to rain on your parade, it's fun stuff and all, but credit where credit is due. I just found it kind of strange you'd make a news article about using the bible as source when all you did was rename a few NPCs, the real content is all from AO.