Zubenelgenubi

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What's the stuff the climbing wall is made out of?

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The wall itself is made from tall rustic wall cabinets turned to face the wall (cubical FTW!). The "stones" are desk lamps.

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The sides of the wall would look better if they were white curved half desks stacked on top of each other, rather than those tech containers.

But excellent job. I want to see that thing just to the right of the treadmill. What is it, a SoloFlex-like exercise machine?

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Here are the images of the maze i made in my supergroup on EU side before coming here.

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LINK 4 < < end of easy maze room into maze room of darkness > >

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"You are in a twisty little maze of passages, all the same."

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Some pics from a hero side base I'm helpin with. Containment/holding area.

http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...tdou/entry.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...u/2ndbase2.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...u/2ndbase3.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...u/2ndbase4.jpg

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GAAAAAHHH!! MY EYES!!

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(b) Realize while still planning I13 that people would be quickly converting base salvage, and maybe done something clever like shelve the whole illthought trainwreck of an idea as it was.

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this.

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but your reactions to my posts make it so worth it

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And yet you whine and cry that everyone is such a meanie meanie fo feanie when they reply to you.

Go figure.

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Not only am I not losing inf, I'm actually making a tidy profit off working on Fabricator. I'm making about 1.5 million inf per batch of 100 crafts. You just gotta know what to craft.

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Only 1.5 mill per 100 crafts? dude, I'm making that much on 10 crafts...

Oh, I see.

You and Snow are just Godwin's Law Deniers.

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First they nerfed PVP, but I wasn't a PVPer.
Then they nerfed badges, but I wasn't a badger.
Then they nerfed bases, but I wasn't a decorator.
Write me when they get around to the things you do use in this game. I'd be curious if people are left to belittle your arguments solely on the basis they find the changes personally irrelevant.

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Oblique Nazi reference.

I am hereby officially invoking Godwin's Law and declaring the thread to be at an end.

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and a close up of the plasma tubes

http://s591.photobucket.com/albums/ss358...25-17-59-53.jpg


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What did you use inside the tubes?

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But I’m still not onboard with your idea to reduce the craftings needed for Fabricator. Sorry. Truth be told, I’d have been [/i] much[/i] happier if things had remained as they were. Since that clearly isn’t going to happen, returning the crafting credit for brainstorm conversions only seems fair.

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I can understand your position on this. For myself, returning the crafting credit for brainstorm conversions and fixing the ability to remove buffs from the icon bar is the absolute minimum that needs to happen.

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I agree with you here, actually. The only thing I disagreed with was lowering the badge requirement.

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I meant that it would have been nice for them to allow a last-minute opportunity for those who intended to use the base salvage --> brainstorm --> IO salvage route to Fabricator to do so before the door was slammed in our faces.

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Given the large amount of brainstorms and base salvage floating around, I doubt that anyone could hold that much salvage.

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Any TRUE badge-[censored] worth his salty language would simply delete or vendor the excess common salvage. It would be a loss of influence miniscule compared to what I spent buying common IO salvage and turning it into base components. Over and over and over and over...

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But... Zub, if the following doesn't sound very respectful = Well, that's because it's truly not:
Please, kindly take your "Easy-Mode" Garbage/Snark and shove it somewhere very, very dark.

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The Articulate Gentleman is entitled to his opinion.

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Like your reply was even close to articulate.


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It was, yes. Good that you noticed. I believe that I managed to convey my opinion, and pointedly did it without telling him to shove anything up his [censored].

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*ahem* Mine rhymed
And you're inferring "[censored]"... I didn't say it.

I may have implied it - but I didn't state it.

I could have been referring to a very dark closet, or the north pole in Winter, or any of the other myriad of possible "dark places" where you could, figuratively - shove it.


Take your 'holier than thou-ness' and kindly place it there too.
I doubt that you (or anyone else for that matter) has gotten Fabricator solely off of Crafting Enhancements. It would be near impossible to avoid getting some credits for a "craft" that wasn't an Enhancement - somewhere along the line.

I doubt ANYONE has even come close to getting it Mostly off of Enhancements.
Whether they'd admit it or not, is another matter - claiming others use "easy-mode" - while they do not (in any game/situation) - its just too satisfying for some folks - they just can't avoid this sort of opportunity for snobbishness (or maybe that would that be snobbery? - whatever).

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Oh please. At least have the courage to own what you wrote. Your meaning was clear to everyone. And I'll take my "holier than thou-ness" (which only exists in your mind) over your delightful "shove your opinion up your [censored]" any day, thank you very much.

You clearly don't want to have a reasonable discussion about this, so I'm not going to bother with you. If you can't articulate your position without starting off with [censored]-shoving, then your opinion is not well thought out and certainly not worth responding to.

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As for Zub, I'm realing it's just easier to ignore you since you obviously don't have a reason for how allowing all crafts from the invention table to count for credit cheapen how it was achieved in the past when this same thing was also true. You were on my ignore list when you were complaining about being PVPed against when trying for badges in those zones, and you're still there in game. Grats making the forum ignore too.

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Oh, I have reasons. I've just been on these boards for so long that I know when someone just wants to be a rude little troll rather than having a rational discussion. Responding to such people with reasonable, articulate arguments is like waving a red flag in front of a bull (-headded person).

As far as the PvP stuff goes, I don't recall that. Of course, it's been a couple of years since I've been in a PvP zone... talk about ancient history! Is that why you suddenly came out of nowhere to attack me here? Because you didn't like something I supposedly did in-game a long time ago? Sheesh. Get over it already.

But hey, you've pulled out the "Retreat and Declare Victory" strategy today, so kudos for you.

I’m not quoting you directly, Snow, to keep the quothiness from growing exponentially. Hope you don’t mind.

I agree with you that they should not have removed base salvage. This was an odd change that has never been explained. (I actually created a “museum” storage rack in my private base. It has 5 of every base salvage item that was ever available in the game.)

And I see your point about the way so many crafting routes have been removed from the road to Fabricator. Yeah, that does suck for those trying to get there now.

In particular, removing the ability to delete an empowerment buff is one of those smack-self-in-the-head inexplicable changes that will hurt the players who use these things on a regular basis, and not for the purpose of grinding out crafting badges… I thought the devs wanted us to use the empowerment stations?

But I’m still not onboard with your idea to reduce the craftings needed for Fabricator. Sorry. Truth be told, I’d have been [/i] much[/i] happier if things had remained as they were. Since that clearly isn’t going to happen, returning the crafting credit for brainstorm conversions only seems fair.



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Now I DO agree with those complaining about the way this change was made as a stealth-nerf. THAT was uncool. And like I already said, a little advanced warning would have been appropriate.

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I don't think advanced warning would have helped a lot, because even with well-reasoned arguments a lot of player hated changes got shoved down our throats without any explanations.

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Oops… some quothiness snuck in.

The advanced warning I was referring to wasn’t so that we would have the opportunity to try and change their minds. (We all know how well that works.) I meant that it would have been nice for them to allow a last-minute opportunity for those who intended to use the base salvage --> brainstorm --> IO salvage route to Fabricator to do so before the door was slammed in our faces.

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By the way here and here and really, this one fits too.

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Awww... you're being too hard on yourself!

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But... Zub, if the following doesn't sound very respectful = Well, that's because it's truly not:
Please, kindly take your "Easy-Mode" Garbage/Snark and shove it somewhere very, very dark.

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The Articulate Gentleman is entitled to his opinion.

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Like your reply was even close to articulate.


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It was, yes. Good that you noticed. I believe that I managed to convey my opinion, and pointedly did it without telling him to shove anything up his [censored].

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Elitist, or arrogant, possibly. But not articulate.

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Here, this should help you out.


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And he never told you to shove it somewhere on your body, just somewhere dark.

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*boggle*

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I'm still not sure how the ability to convert base salvage for badge credit somehow belittled or cheapened the efforts of those that...wait for it...were able to obtain it by...little more build up...converting base salvage.

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Not even going to try and answer this, since you clearly wouldn’t understand the answer, given that you don’t even understand when someone is telling someone else to shove something up their [censored]. Reading comprehension. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

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But... Zub, if the following doesn't sound very respectful = Well, that's because it's truly not:
Please, kindly take your "Easy-Mode" Garbage/Snark and shove it somewhere very, very dark.

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The Articulate Gentleman is entitled to his opinion.

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Like your reply was even close to articulate.


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It was, yes. Good that you noticed. I believe that I managed to convey my opinion, and pointedly did it without telling him to shove anything up his [censored].

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The bunny got lonely.... so I had to make him a friend....

I now present to you... BEAVER!!!


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I clicked the link but it was NOT what I was hoping for.

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But... Zub, if the following doesn't sound very respectful = Well, that's because it's truly not:
Please, kindly take your "Easy-Mode" Garbage/Snark and shove it somewhere very, very dark.

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The Articulate Gentleman is entitled to his opinion.

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As to the Brainstorm conversions: in light of this change Fabricator should be reduced to 2,000 crafts. The 1,000 to 10,000 jump never made much sense anyways.

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Not at all.

I got it well before brainstorms ever existed. So did every other person who really wanted it. Fabricator is an epic badge. It was obviously intended to require epic level effort to receive. So a later issue has a feature that makes it much easier to get the epic badge, but that ability was unintended, how does the removal of that feature somehow retroactively mean that the badge was never intended to be epic in the first place? Heck, when Fabricator's requirements were set the Devs probably hadn't even considered removing base salvage yet or creating the whole Brainstorm system.

The badge is still available (not like some >cough&lt. Anyone can still get it the same way everyone else got it prior to i13. Easy-mode for this badge has been removed, that's all.

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Zub, I respect you a lot, but you are wrong. If the forum monster didn't purge a couple of threads in this section, I would be able to directly link you to Positron's posts.

Good thing that Red Tomax City of Digest keeps copies :
http://coh.nofuture.org.uk/digest/in...p;post=7984068
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Master Craftsman isn't impossible for a character to get sub-40, especially if they are crafting for most of their levelling. That series of badges counts ANY use of a crafting table (converting base salvage as well), and the other badges needed for the Accolade get you almost halfway to Master Craftsman on their own.

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http://coh.nofuture.org.uk/digest/in...p;post=8018477
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The "1000" badge is for any use of the crafting table... making base items, converting Salvage, etc. all count towards it. Not just Enhancements.

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They are going back on Positron's words that any use of the crafting tables count for that series of badges.

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Thank you for the compliment, Snow. You and I frequently disagree on badge issues, but I’m glad that there is still someone on these boards who can construct a counter-argument without being rude (>AHEM< see post below. )

Yes, you’re correct that the “any crafting = credit toward Fabricator” rule has been rescinded. But I still don’t see this as automatically requiring an epic level badge to be rolled back. (I didn’t agree with dropping the Zookeeper numbers either, as a matter of fact). At a mere 2000 craftings, by the time someone has obtained all of the common IO crafting badges and gotten the Workbench power, they will be nearly half way to Fabricator. I really do see dropping badge requirements as cheapening the effort that the players put into obtaining them in the first place.

Now GadgetDon made a good point in saying that the base salvage --> base component method of gaining progress toward Fabricator has been removed. And this is something that could be discussed. But still… I believe that reducing a badge requirement should be a very rare thing, like in the case of an obvious bug or order-of-magnitude error (*looks sideways at Empath*). I just don’t think that this one change rises to the level of problem that would necessitate a rollback of the effort that a LOT of people put into Fabricator when it first appeared.


Now I DO agree with those complaining about the way this change was made as a stealth-nerf. THAT was uncool. And like I already said, a little advanced warning would have been appropriate.

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Those who got Fabricator...how much of that progress was converting invention salvage to base component salvage, and how much was refining raw base salvage into components? Every guide and everyone I've talked to, even talking about Master Crafter, made significant use of those no-longer-available options.

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Well, now this is a good point.

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As to the Brainstorm conversions: in light of this change Fabricator should be reduced to 2,000 crafts. The 1,000 to 10,000 jump never made much sense anyways.

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Not at all.

I got it well before brainstorms ever existed. So did every other person who really wanted it. Fabricator is an epic badge. It was obviously intended to require epic level effort to receive. So a later issue has a feature that makes it much easier to get the epic badge, but that ability was unintended, how does the removal of that feature somehow retroactively mean that the badge was never intended to be epic in the first place? Heck, when Fabricator's requirements were set the Devs probably hadn't even considered removing base salvage yet or creating the whole Brainstorm system.

The badge is still available (not like some >cough&lt. Anyone can still get it the same way everyone else got it prior to i13. Easy-mode for this badge has been removed, that's all.

But I do agree that it should have been in the patch notes. A little prior warning from test server notes would have been nice too.

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I have a robot that I built also. Mine is using the sewer items and I call him the Iron Giant.

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Very nice indeed. I especially like the menacingly glowing eyes. And because he's sitting down, I'll bet that when he stands up he could kick the $#!t out of the OP's robot.

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You've Inspired me to create a Robot even though I have an arcane base.

His Name is Buzz Kill and he has guns

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Very nice. What did you use for the legs? I can't identify them from the photos.

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Very nice!

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You know, you'd get a lot more cool stuff like this if you told Sunstorm to make us some giant LEGO pieces... especially the slanty ones. And in different colors please!

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Bah, study by osmosis... tie your textbooks to your head and you're good to go!

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Basic fundamental problem with this plan:

Let's say you want to learn Art History. So you tie an art history text to your head. Yes, approximately half of the art history will leak into your head, but since that particular text book has no physics or mathematics in it, half of what you already know about those subjects will leak from your brain and into the book. Not only will it decrease your knowledge of physics and math, but it will absolutely ruin the resale value of the art history text at the campus bookstore.