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Ok hot that was funny.
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Quote:I understand the degree of rock v paper lineups. But you prove my point about being able to do more than just therm. "It worked for me because ****" "but it wont work for other people because ***" is a silly line of thinking and boreders on stupidity. The idea for limiting at/powersets was not mutualy exclusive to therms. Ie. 4 tank or 4 stalker lineups could also be just counterproductive to an event like this. So let's put our big boy pants on and drop the "/ethug my dill is huge son"Originally Posted by Daknah
One good emp can out end two therms. Now get offensive.. Rads or do double pains. Or just run a dom 2 stalkers an emp. The mind set of a bad team build auto winning is what shows lack of talent. Yes i ran 2 therms in a 2v2 so we could both be offensive and surviveable and debuff. so bring your ladder team to freedom, see if you do better then champion. -
Everytime you post about pvp it reinforces the fact that you know nothing about pvp. Ask anyone that was in the ladder pre i13 about LoLVirtue and how bad we were. Also a 2 therm team in anything smaller than 5v5 is worthless and the people that loose to those teams are doing something wrong. The therm team is so easy to overcome that no one runs them in small team format events.
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Quote:Yes because virtue has a population of zero good pvpers. Its this attitude that let us shock people on test and climb the ladder. Every small number team event turns into the battle of the blue bar. If I'm not mistaken you fielded a 2 therm team in a 2v2 event. The 3-6v3-6 league turned into the double therm league. This does not equate skill or the lack of skill elsewhere.Originally Posted by Daknah
This tells me that any 4 from freedom could win this event.
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There should be at/powerset restrictions or its going to be who can field 2-3 therms wins
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Hey rei!!! Ya its a sad state. I tryed to get a 5v5 and only got crickets. How you been anyway"
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I wont make the "showcase" as i have not moved any of my toons over to freedom yet but I would like to listen to the draft. Is that an option?
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At one time Virtue was had solid PvP. It makes me sad now.
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What are your in-game Globals?:@-Syn, @-Synz
What are your PvP characters?:
Blasters: Psy/Em, Fire/Em
Fenders: Rad/Psy, Cold/Psy, Storm/Rad
Trolers: Mind/FF, Mind/Emp, Elec/Therm, Elec/Kin
Tanks/Scrapers: I have a few of both but dont think they have a place in team arena.
Corrs: Sonic/Cold, Rad/Pain, Fire/Rad, Sonic/Kin, Fire/Sonic
Doms: Grav/Elec, Mind/Psy, Fire/Psy, Mind/Ice
Which of these characters are on Freedom?:None. Once teams are settled I am willing to either PL a dup of one or two of these toons or move them from virtue.
Are you willing to respec into a better PvP build?:Yes
Are you willing to roll a new character if needed?:Sure
Do you have a mic and ventrillo?:Yep
What is your general day/time availability?: After 8pm EST
Briefly describe your PvP experience: Founder and Co-Leader of LoLVirtue. We had a good run at the vill ladder until it broke up due to the i13 craziness. Then in i14 with the ladder that fell apart right after the ranking round robin. Other than that Zone/Arena on live but that was always a different animal.
List a few character names of PvP toons you play: Lots of names with "Syn" in them -
Quote:Ya I agree about the "some where in the middle" statement. I always said that PvP in CoX was somewhere in the middle of a FPS and a RTS, because the skills needed were similar. Hand eye coordination and multi tasking ability to name the big two. Now its a button masher. They removed anything elegant from the system that took skill to learn and enjoy and gave us back a system for the lowest common denominator.Originally Posted by thepushbolt
We should really stop pretending like PvP had a lot to it pre-i13. It wasn't "chess". Nor was it the "checkers" that we see today. It fell somewhere in the middle, where the gameplay was still pretty simple but the metagame (builds, team setups, etc) was much more complicated.
People could still win via faceroll back then (Fire/EM + stacked EMP buffs anyone?). That's why we wanted changes and were initially excited for the i13 "extra attention" promise. We whined just as much pre i13 as we do now, it's just that now that we've seen such a dramatic new low come out of such an exciting promise, the situation seems hopeless.
Some of what happened in i13 took the game in a positive direction (the changes to control timers, taunt, animation-->damage conversion). It's just that the homogenization left such a bad taste that we didn't care.
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Quote:This.Originally Posted by Slax
It's ironic that the evforts to make PvP more open have made it more cookie-cutter.
Its strange when Forts hit red side it made vill ladder teams starting to practice with and beat hero ladder teams. All people really were wanting was better epics for red side and the playing field would have been almost equal. If they would have then done SOME of i13s changes it would have opened up team choices by a great amount. Now the level of strategy involved in 8v8 matches has been reduced from chess to checkers.
Now the new school of PvPers that run around in zone or get top kills in a KB or two think they can talk like they know how to play chess. Makes me sad.
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Its become clear that perhaps this Tokyo has never been in on truly completive 8v8 team.
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Quote:I agree that playing a Blaster/Corr/Dom/Fender is a really good start. They preform better on teams and thats the point of PvP. Then once you get the hang of the entire thing moving to a melee or solo friendly toon.Originally Posted by Reiraku
Don't worry about the beatings you take. Those come regardless. Instead, focus more on what you can learn from those beatings and what works. A good character to start with would be a blaster. Psi/EM and Fire/EM are both solid builds that can teach a lot of the basics of PvP through use. Starting with a melee toon can often lead to bad habits that will warp one's perception of how PvP "should be."
If you can get good on a blaster, you can learn other characters such as Doms and Corrs without too many problems.
And blasters giving a "false sense of skill"???? Wow. I think scrappers will do that worse than any other AT.
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And hi Rei -
I love my grav/elec. Its not FOTM at all really people hate grav. Yes the hold does -KB so its lift---->hold not hold--->Lift like in mind.
I like the assault + Tactics + Hybernoob combo alot on my dom. I like singy but its not super useful. It is nice when you hybernoob and people huddle around you he shows up and pisses people off so you can get out alot of the time.
I skipped charged brawl and the cone. Because Thunder Strike and havoc punch are all the melee damage you will ever need. I kept the snipe for good bonuses and watter spout for the same. -
Ok just checking
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Did they just brag about camping the vill base in BB and SC?
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Ok I need to push this to next sat. My kid is very very sick still and will interfear with me trying to run this and have fun.
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Very sory guys. I need to push this to tomorrow. Something came up in real life
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Lol mags. Took me a sec to get it. I still have not fixed my sound but I think I know what's wrong. Still down for this
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Or we can throw personal insults at eachother and not actualy debate anything. Or we can call other people lazy for debating the subject and not actualy have a vote casted from our own team. GG
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I'll bite. I'm around for about 3-7 more weeks it looks like. This could actually bring test PvP back from the brink.
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Still the same answer will come from me. And needing a hold to set up double a/s is kinda silly. We used to get double a/s off on buffers in i11-i12 with them just going through their buffing cycle.
You may see my anti DR attitude as a negitive trait but its my feelings and how I view the game. Feel free to recruit LoL members.
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Jimmy ya id think we would at least for a short while be we loose easy doing so. Even if we don't the ladder is not nearly close enough to anthing that could be called a ladder. I think that the devs broke high end pvp to get new pvpers and that dident work so much either. I came back to the game 3 months ago to check it out. I did and it smells like fail. -
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Ask to see her RP base too. And maybe she will dance for you in her strip club. Also feel free to join in the Global tell of @Ara when ever you are on.
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Then I don't get it....dr on, ts off, hd off is as close to i12 as we can get.
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If you say so. Have at it. If thats as close are we can get then I'll have no part.