Human Form only - AoE?


Little_Whorn

 

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On unlimited budget builds, I'm still not noticing a way to build decent (I guess that's relative) AoE damage. DD and OD seem to be the only low rech AoE damage available. Am I missing something? If human forms are meant to be usually low AoE, high ST, that would be fine. I just want to have a better idea of what to expect with heavy investment. Thanks in advance.


 

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Originally Posted by Little_Whorn View Post
On unlimited budget builds, I'm still not noticing a way to build decent (I guess that's relative) AoE damage. DD and OD seem to be the only low rech AoE damage available. Am I missing something? If human forms are meant to be usually low AoE, high ST, that would be fine. I just want to have a better idea of what to expect with heavy investment. Thanks in advance.
Yea Tri Form AOE is better than Human Form, but Orbiting Death and Dark Detonation with a FF+Rech proc in it are nothing to sneeze at. The FF proc keeps Unchain Essence up decently often which is a beastly AOE attack. Basically though, going human form only means sacrificing the AOE of tri form for better ST, better survivability, and better control.


 

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
Yea Tri Form AOE is better than Human Form, but Orbiting Death and Dark Detonation with a FF+Rech proc in it are nothing to sneeze at. The FF proc keeps Unchain Essence up decently often which is a beastly AOE attack. Basically though, going human form only means sacrificing the AOE of tri form for better ST, better survivability, and better control.
Ah. Good point about the FF proc. Forgot about that little guy. Sounds like a good tradeoff to me regarding AoE and the other abilities. Thanks THB


 

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Nova is going to have better AoE, however with human form you should have :

Orbiting death
Dark Detonation
Sunless Mire as an alpha for about every spawn (Slotted it does more damage than DD)
Unchain Essence every two
3 Pets cycling their Dark Nova Emanation Equivalent
And Quasar as a nearly crashless nuke. I find half the time I'm able to activate stygian circle immediately with some of my toggles still on, the other times you have to wait at most 3-4 seconds for a tic of end to occur (since there is no -recovery). Don't be afraid to use this power regularly if you are solo'ing +8 mobs.

Finally add in something like void judgement and you can pretty much cycle mini nukes (Quasar, Void, Unchain) one for each spawn.

I find rather than worrying so much about chaining AoE's non stop, with human form you can fire yours off, then focus on bosses while they recharge and let your pets take care of the rest as you do put out some impressive ST damage.


 

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I don't recommend using Quasar on a human form build, but yeah, fluffies do great damage provided they don't die. I find it hard to use them when soloing 54x8 besides to help with the last boss in a spawn or something. Sometimes you can keep them up and sometimes you can't, but I just don't feel the need to use them when solo. On teams I can keep three up permanently though, I feel that's when they shine the most.