Tri-Form Warshade build help


The_Marshal

 

Posted

I am loving my tri-form warshade and would like some help on tweaking my build.


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravity Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 16: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(31), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), Lock-%Hold(43), HO:Nucle(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- P'Shift-End%(A), Aegis-ResDam(21)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 24: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(27), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(27), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(29), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(29)
Level 28: Unchain Essence -- KinCrsh-Dmg/KB(A), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(37), KinCrsh-Rchg/KB(37), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(37), KinCrsh-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(40), KinCrsh-Acc/Dmg/KB(50)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(34), S'bndAl-Build%(34)
Level 35: Quasar -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Oblit-%Dam(42)
Level 38: Eclipse -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Nebulous Form -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
------------
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
------------
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- KinCrsh-Dmg/KB(A), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(3), KinCrsh-Rchg/KB(3), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(23), KinCrsh-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(50), KinCrsh-Acc/Dmg/KB(50)
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(19), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Decim-Build%(31)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(46), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(15), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(17)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- T'Death-Dam%(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- T'Death-Dam%(A)



Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1677;718;1436;HEX;|
|78DA6D945B4F134114C767BBB39496D28B05CAB5052A772C6DE4D1481412238290E|
|0E5B116BAE826B5D416880888243E18AF4FC6EB67F0C5EB0751E3975088BEA9B89E|
|CEF9031BCA269B5FFB9FF39F393367CE4EDE1CF3BD39B3392234FF682E532AA52F6|
|78AA56B99ACE99E99B3CCFC9C29CA8F9BDED8EE487A6A7EDECC97AC653371F1FA6C|
|31934B9F26E762746F7CCC3C307E6AA99811DEE985855C62A6609A599FFA3961660|
|A56FE6A48FD399B5FB64AD6AC95B3165702BBC3599366B40AA291964FD1BBE91378|
|6C219ACBA2144B4E2DA209D126C532691A34AD91B54EDA83AE44DBA50FB057820DE|
|05DF2191C238C672E1E73F3F6CB9ABB5E539A9F040F340FB47BE4ADD1CA66DBA8F9|
|C35EDF5F7087E9FFC78CDBCC21A12BAE90B716F3D5EE08956F9CD608400B7838FE3|
|EC5855833429F5D2A2EFA85D9FF15FC06FE66CFE0090A97BA58256F98BD5A187BAB|
|1BE6DCD768AC5E9D982DEA3116A0F523583F823D3EA0B826D664D338C7359F03279|
|9ADE7C129E643F2B420E7965BAC1D5D05D7C07566CF6D666A8319A21CDA90431B72|
|7844F3C5B846466C8BE3DAB7C19FE02F66C70838CA7C4CDE4EE4D2891AC551A31ED|
|4A80F35EA438DFA50A33BE4EDD20CB5F7AE937CA6DDBB4C716EDD4F30D753E60679|
|7A71AEBDB863EBA40D604F031DAC1DA17D26A025A0D591968496C4DEBF7BE95EE37|
|E6A718EDB726A9738EE8753EBE5B86DA7861AB74A47EFD8F48876A5A88CEDFE8AD1|
|648592AA508E5728C315CAB853F1712E131551D3D2D1C54AF10445B91A2ABB0BD2D|
|1832D5CA35AD20CD4D7C05D73E1AEB970D71A70D75207EE9A5FEEF5BE349E137AA8|
|2E2FC097CCBA57CCE86B66C0B9DE5B3EE7AA77E07BE6E047E6B14F20EE41F010AF8|
|4A7F1C3E1DE217875B9D7CB7A7881F3F716B08F1BCC609129F76365F80AE69F6546|
|E7981D5966DC641A650FBE6561F44935FAA41A7DE2459F040F7CCBAAF6D713E1349|
|F93DBA9A1DED587C4FD07FE51F50A|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|


 

Posted

You need to slot up either your Dwarf form or your human form for single target damage. As it stands you will be dead weight in AV fights... Since you don't have any defense built up I suggest devoting slots to your Dwarf attacks.

You want to 4 slot Eclipse with 2 Nucleos and 2 recharge IO's, it'll bring your human/Nova resists from 0-85% with 5 targets.

Your hasten is perma with 2 slots.

There's no sense in slotting Nova Bolt, and I don't see much use in slotting Blast either (especially not for knockback.) Nova is your AOE form... You should be using it against a lot of enemies after stacking your mires, by the time you fire off Emanation and Detonation it'll be time to switch to Dwarf for another Mire.

You should really slot Gravity Well for damage, it's your best single target attack. If I were you, I would slot it with Kinetic Combat (same for your Dwarf attacks) a nucleo and a proc. Even having s/l defense in the 20's will drastically improve your survivability, and you only need around 150% global recharge for perma Eclipse (though 160-170% is more comfortable.)

I think you should slot Unchain Essence for damage, not stun.


 

Posted

Thanks for the feedback. I've taken your advice and made some changes so that I'm not "dead weight" as you so aptly put it when it comes to AV's. I left the Decimation proc in Nova Bolt as if it fires, it is a nice boost to damage. I also wanted to pick your brain in regards to purple sets. I could put Hecatomb in Gravity Well and Absolute Amazement in Gravitic Emanation without having to move any slots around, but is it really worth it compared to the cost?

Here is my revised build:


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravity Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), HO:Nucle(43), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- P'Shift-End%(A), ResDam-I(21), ResDam-I(48)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 24: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(27), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(27), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(29), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(29)
Level 28: Unchain Essence -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(37), Posi-Dmg/Rng(37), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(34), S'bndAl-Build%(34)
Level 35: Quasar -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Oblit-%Dam(42)
Level 38: Eclipse -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Nebulous Form -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
------------
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
------------
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Dev'n-Hold%(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Decim-Build%(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(40), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(15), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(17), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(23), Mocking-Rchg(25)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), HO:Nucle(50), T'Death-Dam%(50)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), HO:Nucle(31), T'Death-Dam%(46)
------------
Set Bonus Totals:

  • 12% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 12% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 21.13% Defense(Melee)
  • 22.38% Defense(Smashing)
  • 22.38% Defense(Lethal)
  • 6.13% Defense(Fire)
  • 6.13% Defense(Cold)
  • 3% Defense(Energy)
  • 3% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 3% Defense(Ranged)
  • 4.56% Defense(AoE)
  • 1.8% Max End
  • 67% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 100% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 60.24 HP (5.62%) HitPoints
  • Knockback (Mag -8)
  • Knockup (Mag -8)
  • MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
  • MezResist(Held) 5.25%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 12.95%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
  • MezResist(Stun) 9.1%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%
  • 11.5% (0.19 End/sec) Recovery
  • 16% (0.71 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed)
  • 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
  • 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed)
  • 7.25% Resistance(Fire)
  • 7.25% Resistance(Cold)



Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1669;714;1428;HEX;|
|78DA6D945B4F135110C7CFB667292DA517CAA5DC0AB462819642A38F264421312A0|
|88AC6C75AE822ABA590161A891A25F1C1787BF5C50FE0932F2AFAA514A22F26A8EB|
|EC997F61C37693E60FBF333367E6CC9CB3F0702EF8F1F2DE8CD042B3E562AD56B85|
|3ACD6D68B25C3B7BC6A1A955543D89F8F7E438D95C2E2DA9A51A9997523777B63A5|
|5A2C172E91E776E2787DCE38B57E71A75A1481A5CDCD726E79CB304A41F5E7BC51D|
|C322BF7A2EA9F2B95BA593357CCB2B9BD1B6E2C970C8A686E89386D9FA7DF5E50E0|
|B384E8B3A1143B4ED6A3093128459D9806A6C59925A906AF8296E6CDB0AF843E277|
|B9DD784FECEA358B78FCBB699AF4B532C44C00FE6077B41BE6D9AED6CE96D47EC1B|
|FC03FDCB1AFAC79AB258A78457E92EF9B6235EFB6FA1F24CD11E61B0B09FED5F925|
|D94991E5D22494A91B8C13A7113BA0CBD402ABD228BDA1E916F8C7D3D31D4D699E5|
|B529E863B2E9522766892ED884298F1EE4D1835A5F915D2F33D97B8DEDFAE6A10BA|
|C03D7A18BACAFC9A71FB9F77FE2FDCE7C867E81EEB3A6BFB2E6917B947218440E83|
|C8E10DC51BE25EE94307BCC7F021F427F417EBC80C7496F52DF926914B12BD4AA15|
|769F46A1CBD1A47AFC6D1AB67E43BAAE9B6AF7714677CB6A1C8B7A14FC9760CE739|
|66B3B4144F8865504B6684ED3AA8BE1C580EAC93D834D8346AFE1EA079C67C6A167|
|DE2C0457EB8C8A18B0C48C75D5164581195A935E15A9D7691BC8B9C7391F32E72D5|
|49827CAEF32EAB25E9B8B58AF823C23E7D95DD2DE9B87BFDDC9376623A98FE81CF2|
|F241D77F93D9F7DF8C44EEA98C116CC600B66308BD99BFCC61A69E223619BDE6FEE|
|E395C7774D8FAD739D01136FC07DD6C803BC2F65D6F806AB3CF195B1BB7C97E32BB|
|8EBABAC2325D694C1FBE9B60FDE9E18E6B915F3DC8A790E609E23A7DE9E1667AE78|
|533C78533C7853BAF1A6E431E7F9029FA7EFC457C4D0CFD626F13A10AF03F13A112|
|F81789388F71F3B2CFD87|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|


 

Posted

Yeah I have Hecatomb in G Well and AA in Emanation, my build was crazy expensive but I think it was worth it. You might get more mileage out of Hecatomb in Dwarf Strike since it seems like you'll be using Dwarf for AV's/hard targets.

That build looks a lot better to me, the last change I would make is slotting Dwarf Drain with 4 Kinetic Combats and 2 Touch of the Nictus. I would get the extra slot by pulling the Perf Shifter proc from Dwarf but I know people seem to like that so you could also pull one of the Resist IO's.


 

Posted

So do you use your human form rather than dwarf for AV fights? I'd be interested in looking at your build if you don't mind sending it to me in a private message.

Thanks again for the help!