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Having played Tankers, Scrappers and Brutes all to 50 here's my take on your question.|
Originally Posted by Coh4Lifers
Hi guys,
I'm Coming over from Diablo II, probably one of the most addicting games ive ever played. I was a runner for the game and a farmer. I like being smack in the middle of things, being able to take lots of damage without having to worry about a thing. I like playing and leveling solo. I was wondering if there was a build that would quench my thirst of being able to dish out tons of damage, while being able to survive without anyone else with me. I've looked into a couple things including: DM/INV Scrapper-Brute-Tank Spines/DA Scrapper ELM/SD-Brute ( i heard it was exp) SS/Fire- Brute/Tank Basically Im looking for a fun build that i can solo myself to 50 with, with very little down time, or periods where im too weak to do anything. Help would be appreciated. God bless |
If you're really intending to solo the entire way then I'd have to suggest going with a Scrapper... while Tankers are quite capable of soloing they're much better in teams. A Tanker brings the best aggro control and survivability in the game with mediocre damage... that's the trade off for our durability.
Solo your ability to hold aggro is a moot point; if nobody else is with you then you'll automatically have all the aggro anyway. Durability wise a Tanker is overkill for a solo character and you'll kill mobs at a reduced rate thanks to the Tanker's lower damage output... resulting in slower leveling.
Scrappers have adequate durability (with some sets having Tanker level durability) to handle anything they're likely to encounter solo coupled with MUCH better damage output. Scrappers are the character of choice for soloing hero side.
Where a Brute's concerned, having played one they're quite similar to a Scrapper with the exception that you'll need to be constantly running from mob to mob or your damage will drop off quickly. The Scrapper/Brute question mostly means "Do you want to play villains or heroes?"
Now for your specific set combinations:
- DM/INV Scrapper-Brute-Tank - Invuln is a good set now with the potential to become a great one with some investment in IO sets. Obviously the Tanker version is more durable but it's up to the task as a Scrapper/Brute secondary. DM is a very good single target set with a lot of utility; it lacks much in the way of AOE damage however. If single target DPS is your thing DM's a good choice; if you want AOE damage then you should look elsewhere.
- Spines/DA Scrapper - an excellent AOE character with limited single target damage, the DA secondary has a few holes (no knockback protection for one) and can be squishy. It lives and dies by the Dark Regeneration heal... if this misses at a critical time you're going down. It's also quite endurance heavy... something that can be mitigated via slotting and set bonuses.
- ELM/SD-Brute - also available as a Scrapper set, it's an extremely powerful AOE killing machine with excellent durability... Shield can reach Tanker level durability with moderate IO investment. It's a defense based set however, so until it matures it'll have growing pains... until your defense climbs above around 25% you'll feel like you don't have a secondary. The closer your defense gets to the 45% soft cap the tougher you get though... once you've reached that point you'll think nothing about jumping into an 8 man spawn of +2 mobs and killing them in 5 seconds... +4 mobs aren't out of the question either, depending on the faction.
- SS/Fire- Brute/Tank - SS is primarily a hard hitting single target set but you'll get a very nice AOE attack as the tier 9 power. Fire on the other hand has the same holes as Dark Armor with no knockback protection and, like DA, it also can be squishy. IO sets can alleviate this somewhat but it's never going to be as durable as Invuln or Shield.
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Various combinations of:
Primary:
Shield Defense - decently tough, has a damage buff, has an extremely strong wide-radius AoE attack (Shield Charge)
Willpower - very tough, has an endurance recovery buff, little downtime, matures early
Invulnerability - extremely tough, resists debuffs but matures late
Secondary:
Super Strength - Has a powerful damage and accuracy buff (Rage). Its AoE attack comes last in the set but has greater radius than normal.
Electric Melee - Lots of AoE attacks. Has Lightning Rod, which is similar to Shield Charge
Firey Melee - Hast two AoE attacks, although both are slow-animating. Damage type is rarely resisted
i have a level 50 Fire Shield / Super Strength Tank with the Fiery Epic Mastery. I use him to powerlevel people, and farm for influence, recipes, etc. Hes awesome at it, i love everything about him but that damn Rage drop.
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Scrappers : DM/DA, Kat/SR Brutes : Fire/Shield, Ele/Fire(Villian)
Controllers : Fire/Kin, Ele/Rad, Earth/Cold
My vote:
Tanker - definitely SD/SS/Pyre for a farmer. The huge damage buff that you will always have through Rage is great. But that's not all, you get a quick recharging AoE in Footstomp that has a large radius which is great for big groups that aren't necessarily packed tightly. With Rage and Against All Odds you can run into a group, hit Footstomp, Fireball, Shield Charge (by then Footstomp will be back up on a decently build Tank with some recharge bonuses so you can hit it again). You'll basically destroy any minions and lieutenants up to +2/+3 and have plenty of big-hitting single-target attacks to beat down the bosses.
Brute - See above...they perform similarly (SS/SD). I'd also throw in a plug for Elec/SD Brute as an alternative. Brutes aren't quite as easy to soft-cap for defense, but if you have the resources, it can be done.
For Tanks I like:
SD/Fire/Pyre or Energy Mastery
Ice/Fire/Pyre or Energy Mastery
Electric/Fire/Pyre or Energy Mastery
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If you're considering Spines/DA, I'd say to give Spines/WP a try. |
Originally Posted by Coh4Lifers
Basically Im looking for a fun build that i can solo myself to 50 with, with very little down time, or periods where im too weak to do anything.
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You aren't getting the constant DoT of Death Shroud. But you still have Quills. You are as tough or tougher than any Dark Armor scrapper, without the fussiness of a self heal. And you will not face anything close to the endurance issues that a Spines/DA will have.
I have one and it's one of my favorite scrappers. My other scrapper that would probably answer well to your goals is an Electric/Shield.
If you want a farming tanker, I'd go with Shield/Electric. But those two scrappers farm more efficiently than a tanker will.
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Hi guys,
I'm Coming over from Diablo II, probably one of the most addicting games ive ever played.
I was a runner for the game and a farmer.
I like being smack in the middle of things, being able to take lots of damage without having to worry about a thing. I like playing and leveling solo. I was wondering if there was a build that would quench my thirst of being able to dish out tons of damage, while being able to survive without anyone else with me.
I've looked into a couple things including:
DM/INV Scrapper-Brute-Tank
Spines/DA Scrapper
ELM/SD-Brute ( i heard it was exp)
SS/Fire- Brute/Tank
Basically Im looking for a fun build that i can solo myself to 50 with, with very little down time, or periods where im too weak to do anything.
Help would be appreciated.
God bless