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Fireheart

 

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Long story short, when PB/WS first came out, I leveled both to 50 then deleted them once new power sets came and gone when we were limited to 12 slots per server. So, after a long time away from them, I am looking to rebuild a PB and wanted to know what powers (are not) worth taking in PvE?

Any guidance would be great. I do have mids, so if you have something in a chunk, I would love to see it. In the mean time, I will continue to browse these forums and eat my peanut butter.


@Turbo_Starr

 

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Well, it really depends on how you plan to build/play your PB. To hit the broad strokes first: Are you going to take forms? Bright Nova? White Dwarf? Both? Neither? This has a huge impact on which powers you take, when you take them, and how you slot them.

Radiant Strike and Incandescent Strike are very good. Take both Essence Boost and Restore Essence. Don't take Group Energy Flight. Hasten is popular, as is Fitness if you plan to play at least a reasonable portion of the time in human form (and definately a good pick if you plan to go Human Only).

That's about all for the moment. I'd also strongly suggest you read over the guides, starting with Plasma's guide. Very little has changed for Kheldians in the last few issues aside from the inherent (Cosmic Balance/Dark Sustenance) now working in all forms.


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Originally Posted by Justaris View Post
Well, it really depends on how you plan to build/play your PB. To hit the broad strokes first: Are you going to take forms? Bright Nova? White Dwarf? Both? Neither? This has a huge impact on which powers you take, when you take them, and how you slot them.

Radiant Strike and Incandescent Strike are very good. Take both Essence Boost and Restore Essence. Don't take Group Energy Flight. Hasten is popular, as is Fitness if you plan to play at least a reasonable portion of the time in human form (and definately a good pick if you plan to go Human Only).

That's about all for the moment. I'd also strongly suggest you read over the guides, starting with Plasma's guide. Very little has changed for Kheldians in the last few issues aside from the inherent (Cosmic Balance/Dark Sustenance) now working in all forms.
Thanks. I plan to play mainly in human form, but was thinking of an IO build for sets.


@Turbo_Starr

 

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Originally Posted by Turbo_Starr View Post
Thanks. I plan to play mainly in human form, but was thinking of an IO build for sets.
Don't worry about IO sets until around 35-37 in my opinion. I personally don't slot anything but 40s which means you can't use them until 37, but thats just me.

I would get yourself to 22 and use common 25 IOs to carry you until the late 30s for sets.

You need to get famliar with the character and what kind of character you plan on using before you can really say which sets you want to use.


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Thanks for the advice. Going to try some pre-building though with the sugestions. All human form. I was never a fan of shifting.


@Turbo_Starr

 

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This is what I came up with. What are your thoughts.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Zurel: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(7), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Apoc-Dam%(11), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 1: Incandescence -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(39)
Level 2: Gleaming Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(3), Apoc-Dmg(13), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 4: Essence Boost -- Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Heal-I(45)
Level 6: Shining Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), HO:Ribo(40)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(15), HO:Membr(15)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(17), Mrcl-Heal(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Numna-Heal(19), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(21)
Level 18: Radiant Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(25), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(34), Hectmb-Dam%(36)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(23), EndMod-I(23)
Level 22: Thermal Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(37), HO:Ribo(37), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 24: Quantum Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), HO:Ribo(39), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 26: Solar Flare -- Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Armgdn-Dmg(27), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(27), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Incandescent Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(31), Hectmb-Dmg(31), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 30: Stealth -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Photon Seekers -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Dmg(33), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Reform Essence -- Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(36), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(42), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 44: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(46), SW-Def/EndRdx(48), SW-ResDam/Re TP(50)
Level 47: Light Form -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(48), GA-RechRes(48)
Level 49: Quantum Flight -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Cosmic Balance
Level 1: Energy Flight -- Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(A), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(42)
Level 10: Combat Flight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 241 HP (22.5%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -4)
  • Knockup (Mag -4)
  • MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
  • 32.5% (0.54 End/sec) Recovery
  • 128% (5.72 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3% Resistance(Smashing)
  • 3% Resistance(Lethal)
  • 15.6% Resistance(Fire)
  • 15.6% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3% Resistance(Energy)
  • 3% Resistance(Negative)
  • 3% Resistance(Toxic)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 5% RunSpeed



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@Turbo_Starr

 

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Got him to level 20 over the weekend. Think im gong to go with the above build.


@Turbo_Starr

 

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Just to offer contrast, Turbo Starr, this is how I'm building my own PB sans seafood:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Starlight Saint: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gleaming Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(5), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(21), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(40)
Level 1: Incandescence -- ImpSkn-Status:30(A)
Level 2: Glinting Eye -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(21), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(40)
Level 4: Gleaming Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(5), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(11), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(23), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(43)
Level 6: Shining Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(7), TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(7), ImpSkn-Status:30(13)
Level 8: Radiant Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(43)
Level 10: Essence Boost -- Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), Numna-Heal/Rchg:40(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(34)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB:30(A)
Level 14: Proton Scatter -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:40(15), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:40(15), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(34), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx:40(43)
Level 16: Luminous Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:40(17), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:40(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(37), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx:40(45)
Level 18: Incandescent Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45)
Level 20: Hurdle -- Jump-I:40(A)
Level 22: Health -- Mrcl-Heal:40(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(37), Numna-Heal:40(40), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:40(50)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:40(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:40(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:40(25), P'Shift-End%:40(50)
Level 26: Reform Essence -- Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(27), Numna-Heal/Rchg:40(27), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(37)
Level 28: Glowing Touch -- Numna-Heal/Rchg:40(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29)
Level 30: Solar Flare -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:40(31), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:40(31), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:40(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(46)
Level 32: Quantum Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(33), ImpSkn-Status:30(33)
Level 35: Dawn Strike -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:40(36), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:40(36), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:40(36), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(46)
Level 38: Photon Seekers -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg:40(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg:40(39), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx:40(39), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:40(46)
Level 41: Light Form -- ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:40(42), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:40(42), ImpSkn-Status:30(42)
Level 44: Conserve Energy -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(45)
Level 47: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:40(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx:40(48), AdjTgt-Rchg:40(48)
Level 49: Thermal Shield -- ImpSkn-Status:30(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:40(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth:40(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:40(A)
Level 1: Cosmic Balance
Level 1: Energy Flight -- Zephyr-Travel:40(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:40(50)
Level 10: Combat Flight -- Krma-ResKB:30(A)
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I'm not sure about Build-Up's position, it could well go earlier in the build and I'm not sure if Conserve Energy is needed at all, when one has Stamina All the time and the ability to actually slot EndRed...

Be Well!
Fireheart


 

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Your build looks fine to me Turbo. What role do you want to play on teams generally?


@Dawun
Old School
Renegades

 

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Originally Posted by _Dawun_ View Post
Your build looks fine to me Turbo. What role do you want to play on teams generally?
All human form. Happy you like it, I know you play a wicked PB.


@Turbo_Starr