I opened that in Mids (I recommend fixing the codes so those without Mids handy can read it).
Tough/Weave from the Fighting Pool will need to be re-toggled every time you change form so I recommend changing them to something else.
The fitness pool won't work in either Kheld forms either so you may want to delay it and even take the extra slot in Sta out and put it elsewhere.
And your power order seems off, if you're going to take Bright Nova you should take it at 6 instead of waiting until 28.
You also want more slots in White Dwarf Sublimation, it's a good heal in Dwarf Form.
haha i was just putting the powers on i was gonna take nova at 6 i was just putting the powers in weird orders lol. but what do you mean with stamina and all that. it confused me a little bit. i'm a noob when it comes to IO"s and slotting.
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What he means is that the only pool powers whose benefits are felt while you are in dwarf or nova form are clicks like Hasten. Come to think of it, I think Hasten is the only pool power whose effects carry over into the forms, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.|
Originally Posted by McDurkin89
but what do you mean with stamina and all that. it confused me a little bit. i'm a noob when it comes to IO"s and slotting.
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So taking the fitness pool will only benefit your human form, since even the auto powers from the pools don't carry over. Instead you can slot end mod enhancements into the form powers themselves, although the benefit you get from slotting Nova for endurance mod is negligible.
Popular IO slotting for dwarf form, on the other hand is one endurance reducer, one endurance mod, and one Performance Shifter Chance for +Endurance proc. And three damage resistance. Yeah, don't forget that.
The slight endurance gain you get from the forms, however, was meant more to pay for the cost of running the form than it was to give you any kind of stamina-like endurance, so don't expect miracles from slotting alone.
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ah okay it confused me there for a little bit. i mainly got the fitness power pool cuz i am in human the most. but i do switch to dwarf and nova when needed. idk if its better to do a all human form PB or a triform.or biform lol. I'm wanting to do PvP with it since PB's are better at PvP than WS's. but i wont be doing alot of PvP. just a once or twice a week kinda thing i most likely be doing PvE majority of the time but i wanted my char to be able to go into PvP and not worry about being to weak for it.
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I think human form (With a badly slotted Dwarf - Just the form and the heal, dont slot the attacks) would be the best option in PvP because you get instant access to the self heals, then you can switch to dwarf and use that heal as an emergency heal too.|
Originally Posted by McDurkin89
ah okay it confused me there for a little bit. i mainly got the fitness power pool cuz i am in human the most. but i do switch to dwarf and nova when needed. idk if its better to do a all human form PB or a triform.or biform lol. I'm wanting to do PvP with it since PB's are better at PvP than WS's. but i wont be doing alot of PvP. just a once or twice a week kinda thing i most likely be doing PvE majority of the time but i wanted my char to be able to go into PvP and not worry about being to weak for it.
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Aside from PvP I am not sure which route to recommend as to which forms to take. The only thing I would say is when levelling up take Nova at 6 and dedicate plenty of slots to it. At 20 or after that you can use your second build and basically ignore Nova and slot dwarf up. Once you have experience of both forms when you get a bit higher (I would say late 30's) then respec one of those builds into human only, and slot human heavily.
That way by the time you hit 50 you will have experience with all the forms (And have seen that well slotted so know exactly what they can do) and you can make a more informed choice.
If you tried to go tri-form too early you would only see the forms partly slotted so may be un-impressed, equally if you went human only too early you wouldnt have enough powers or slots and might also be unimpressed.
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Actually, I once specc'd my second build into a human/nova build, heavily slotted the nova attacks and nova, threw a Gaussian's +perception into nova, and wandered into Siren's Call. I was actually surprised at how well I did. Nova's unsuppressable fly meant that a certain brute could hit me with ko blow and stun me, but couldn't bring me to earth to finish me. I'd kite, drop form, heal, and be right back. A flying stalker was my only true enemy.|
Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
I think human form (With a badly slotted Dwarf - Just the form and the heal, dont slot the attacks) would be the best option in PvP because you get instant access to the self heals, then you can switch to dwarf and use that heal as an emergency heal too.
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And a couple of hospital-sitting VEAT's were very sorry to see me enter the zone.
Mind you, though, I didn't do GREAT. I really am bad at pvp, and a Kheldian in Siren's isn't what I'd call easy mode.
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I think the only real problem with Nova is the fact that you are really squishy. With the right support (And pvp is meant for teaming) then Nova is the best form to be in, but without support I find I get killed far to much.|
Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
Actually, I once specc'd my second build into a human/nova build, heavily slotted the nova attacks and nova, threw a Gaussian's +perception into nova, and wandered into Siren's Call. I was actually surprised at how well I did. Nova's unsuppressable fly meant that a certain brute could hit me with ko blow and stun me, but couldn't bring me to earth to finish me. I'd kite, drop form, heal, and be right back. A flying stalker was my only true enemy.
And a couple of hospital-sitting VEAT's were very sorry to see me enter the zone. Mind you, though, I didn't do GREAT. I really am bad at pvp, and a Kheldian in Siren's isn't what I'd call easy mode. |
But I have only been to RV.
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I think the only real problem with Nova is the fact that you are really squishy. With the right support (And pvp is meant for teaming) then Nova is the best form to be in, but without support I find I get killed far to much.
But I have only been to RV. |
Teaming is indeed the key. Heh. In the scenario I described the Brute and the Stalker teamed up, so the Brute would stun me with KO blow and the Stalker would AS me while I was flying very slowly away. Of course, I was teamed too, so it wasn't a complete bloodbath.
I've never liked RV because I don't really care to heavily IO my characters. I just don't play enough to make that kind of influence, and I'm apparently really, really unlucky with purple drop rates on my 50's.
I'd probably recommend Siren's Call to any Kheld driver just starting out at PVP - you can get dwarf and Nova and all of their powers by Siren's, and by 30 even have some almost decent slotting. If you use a respec to pre-slot nova you'll be doing some good damage. You're on a lower damage scalar than some of the heavy hitters, but they don't get their heaviest attacks 'till 32, and so are exemplared below them. You get yours before 26. (well, not counting pets and nuke, but only a warshade's pets would be all that great, and who nukes in pvp?) Heck, given some set bonuses you could probably get some decent positional defense for your nova, too.
It's not Bloody Bay, so there are people actually there, (and I can imagine a respec-slotted PB doing very well in BB, provided he/she could actually find someone to pwn.) and it's not Warburg, so you're not completely outclassed yet by tier 9 powers. So IMHO Siren's Call is a great place to PVP with your Kheld.
EDIT - Just wanted to add a note to the OP that Princess Darkstar's suggestion with regard to building a human/dwarf for pvp is a very good one, and one I agree with - don't go rolling a human/nova just because I write a mean anecdote. Get some experience on your Kheld in pvp before deciding on a final pvp build, and the easiest/least frustrating/safest way to do that is with a human/dwarf build. Once you get some IO sets for positional defense and damage buffs you can either think about nova or stick with what ya got.
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Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
What he means is that the only pool powers whose benefits are felt while you are in dwarf or nova form are clicks like Hasten. Come to think of it, I think Hasten is the only pool power whose effects carry over into the forms, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Vengeance carries over into forms, just requires a dead teammate (I'm not condoning letting your allies die
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I'm looking to do PvP but I'm not sure if this is a good build for it or not? Any comments would help. Please let me know if you have a build or different IO's that would help the build out more.
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[color:#B3CAF7]Level 50 Natural Peacebringer[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Luminous Blast[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Luminous Aura[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fitness[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Speed[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fighting[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Hero Profile:[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Glinting Eye[/color]
- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (25) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Incandescence[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (36) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (48) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Gleaming Blast[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Achilles' Heel - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense Debuff[/color]
- (23) [color:#7AA4EF]Achilles' Heel - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense Debuff/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 4:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Essence Boost[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge[/color]
- (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Recharge[/color]
- (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance[/color]
- (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 6:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Radiant Strike[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Kinetic Combat - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Knockdown Bonus[/color]
- (25) [color:#7AA4EF]Kinetic Combat - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (27) [color:#7AA4EF]Kinetic Combat - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 8:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Swift[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 10:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Thermal Shield[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
- (34) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Status Resistance[/color]
- (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 12:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Build Up[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff[/color]
- (29) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Recharge[/color]
- (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance[/color]
- (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge/Endurance[/color]
- (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Endurance[/color]
- (34) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance for Build Up[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 14:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Health[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 16:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Shining Shield[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Status Resistance[/color]
- (36) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (36) [color:#7AA4EF]Impervious Skin - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 18:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Incandescent Strike[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Bruising Blow - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
- (19) [color:#7AA4EF]Bruising Blow - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
- (19) [color:#7AA4EF]Bruising Blow - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Titanium Coating - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
- (21) [color:#7AA4EF]Titanium Coating - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (21) [color:#7AA4EF]Titanium Coating - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance[/color]
- (23) [color:#7AA4EF]Titanium Coating - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 22:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Reform Essence[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge[/color]
- (39) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (50) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Recharge[/color]
- (50) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 24:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Stamina[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (39) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 26:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Conserve Energy[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (37) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (37) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bright Nova[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Endurance[/color]
- (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Accuracy[/color]
- (46) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
- (46) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Recharge[/color]
- (46) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (48) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 30:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hasten[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (37) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 32:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Dawn Strike[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Scirocco's Dervish - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Scirocco's Dervish - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
- (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Scirocco's Dervish - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance of Damage(Lethal)[/color]
- (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Scirocco's Dervish - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
- (34) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 35:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Photon Seekers[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 38:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Restore Essence[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Numina's Convalescence - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]+Regeneration/+Recovery[/color]
- (39) [color:#7AA4EF]Numina's Convalescence - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal[/color]
- (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Numina's Convalescence - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Numina's Convalescence - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 41:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Light Form[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Endurance[/color]
- (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Accuracy[/color]
- (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
- (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Efficacy Adaptor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]EndMod/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 44:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Boxing[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 47:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Tough[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (48) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 49:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Weave[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (50) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#489AFF]------------[/color][color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Brawl[/color]
- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Sprint[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rest[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Cosmic Balance[/color][color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Energy Flight[/color]
- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 10:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Combat Flight[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#489AFF]------------[/color][color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bright Nova Bolt[/color]
- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (27) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bright Nova Blast[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
- (29) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bright Nova Scatter[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance of Damage(Energy)[/color]
- (7) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
- (7) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (13) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Range[/color]
- (13) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Bright Nova Detonation[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance of Damage(Energy)[/color]
- (9) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
- (9) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (11) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
- (11) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Strike[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Pulverizing Fisticuffs - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
- (3) [color:#7AA4EF]Pulverizing Fisticuffs - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (17) [color:#7AA4EF]Pulverizing Fisticuffs - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Smite[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
- (15) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
- (15) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (17) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Flare[/color]- (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage[/color]
- (3) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
- (5) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
- (5) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Sublimation[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Antagonize[/color]- (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]White Dwarf Step[/color]