Spine Burst skippable on Spines/regen?


goldbricker

 

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Hi,this is my first post at the stalker forums and this is what should be my second stalker ( I have a 33 em/nin)

I was thinking of skipping spine burst so I could make a build like this:

[color:#489AFF]Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,401[/color]
[color:#489AFF]http://www.cohplanner.com/[/color]

[color:#B1C9F5]Click this DataLink to open the build![/color]

[color:#B3CAF7]Level 50 Magic Stalker[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Spines[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Regeneration[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fitness[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Speed[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Concealment[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Ancillary Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Soul Mastery[/color]

[color:#489AFF]Villain Profile:[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Lunge[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hide[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]DefBuff[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Fast Healing[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](3)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](3)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 4:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Reconstruction[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](5)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](5)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](15)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](34)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](36)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 6:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Assassin's Impaler[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](7)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](7)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](9)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](9)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](15)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 8:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hurdle[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Jump[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 10:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hasten[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](11)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](11)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 12:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Placate[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](13)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](13)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 14:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Super Speed[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 16:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Dull Pain[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](17)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](17)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](36)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](36)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](37)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 18:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Health[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](19)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](19)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Stamina[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]EndMod[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndMod[/color](21)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndMod[/color](21)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 22:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Impale[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](23)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](23)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](37)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](37)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](39)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 24:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Build Up[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](25)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](25)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 26:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Ripper[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](27)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](27)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](39)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](39)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](40)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Instant Healing[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](29)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](29)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](40)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](40)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](42)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 30:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Integration[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](31)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](31)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Heal[/color](31)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 32:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Throw Spines[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](33)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](33)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](33)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](34)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](34)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 35:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Resilience[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]ResDam[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]ResDam[/color](46)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]ResDam[/color](50)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 38:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Stealth[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 41:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Dark Blast[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](42)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](42)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Dmg[/color](43)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](43)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]EndRdx[/color](43)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 44:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Shadow Meld[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](45)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](45)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]DefBuff[/color](45)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]DefBuff[/color](46)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]DefBuff[/color](46)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 47:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Soul Storm[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](A)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Acc[/color](48)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Hold[/color](48)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]Hold[/color](48)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](50)[color:#B1C9F5], [/color][color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](50)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 49:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Moment of Glory[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]RechRdx[/color](A)
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[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Brawl[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Sprint[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rest[/color] [color:#489AFF]--[/color] [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Assassination[/color]


I thought of skipping spine burst since throw spines will recharge so fast with hasten and recharge SOs that I could AoE simply with Ripper and Throw Spines.What are your thoughts?If I MUST pick spine burst, which power and slots to dump so I can take it?


 

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Well, you can always skip Soul Storm. I know it looks cool but the hold is kinda lame on Stalker. It had a use before for +critical chance on held foe but not anymore in pve.

I still like Spine Burst because SB is pbaoe. You start with Throw Spines, jump in, use Spine Burst (takes 3s) and by that time, some foes are already around you so you follow up with a jump away Ripper. This is usually my strategy, although I took Ball of Lightning too. lol

It really depends how much +recharge you are going to get. I just know when I play Spines, I want AoE!!


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Originally Posted by leandrim13 View Post
I thought of skipping spine burst since throw spines will recharge so fast with hasten and recharge SOs that I could AoE simply with Ripper and Throw Spines.What are your thoughts?
My main villain is a spines/nin with a high global +rech and in my experience throw spines recharges fast enough to make spine burst expendable. I have dropped spine burst from my build, and it has worked well enough. There have been rare and strange moments where I was hurting for a burst, but nothing critical (and my build anyway has no slack to fit it in). Your mileage may vary.