Is there a limit to custom enemy spawns on a map?
By
Alari_Azure,
Posted on: 2009-07-25 22:49 in Mission Architect
Spawns follow specific rules for how minions, lieutenants, and bosses appear and in what numbers. Solo, you should either be getting 3 minions or 1 minion 1 lieutenant per spawn. The number of minions/lts/bosses in your custom faction shouldn't affect this mixture, unless you don't provide minions or lts at all, which is not the case here. I've heard reports that the game tries to put as many customs in each spawn as it can before duplications occur (i.e. if you've got A B and C minions, you'll always get ABC in 3-minion spawns, not AAB or BBC).
Getting no lieutenants (or very few) sounds pretty unusual, but I have seen maps where this tends to happen more often than not. There was also a bug a while ago where only 3-minion spawns would appear, and that made lieutenants very rare (that was in the i7ish time frame)... and although that bug was fixed, something similar happened very recently which made bosses start to appear for duos on CL2 and CL4.
Those are all the relevant info-bits I can think of. None of it directly explains what you're seeing but it might help you diagnose.
I'd try a few different maps to see what happens.
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Maybe it's your difficulty setting that's spawning more minions instead of Lts? I've noticed that some of my toons tend to get more minions to spawn, while others get more Lts. The toons that are higher diff setting might be getting more Lts. It also might have something to do with player levels, I dunno.
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Thanks, Mind4. I ended up changing to a larger outdoor map (I was using the ruined Atlas Park map with the huge robot pieces strewn everywhere - awesome map but hard to navigate and the smoke is annoying) and I also tried bumping my character's difficulty level to 2. I don't know if either thing actually affected it, but I did a complete run-through and every one of my custom mobs was in there.
I've definitely noticed that my minions appear in groups, and usually all three models show up in each spawn, which I think is very cool. So it seems to be working fine now.
I ask this because I made a short mission, mostly for personal fun and to run with friends. I have quite a few custom enemies, there are three different minions and probably nine different lieutenants, and one elite boss. The three minions always spawn, usually in groups; the boss is always there, but I don't always get all of the LT's to show up. I've used the Find Next Enemy tool while in Invisible mode, and once or twice I HAVE finally seen an LT that I would have sworn wasn't there. But today I checked again, and I was only seeing 3-4 of the different LT's, repeated around the map. Did I use too many? Is there a limit as to how many unique custom enemies will spawn on a given map? Or, if I am solo, will I not get them all? Thanks in advance.