I like the idea, but the sheer textload overwhelmed me.
I had an idea like this floating around my brain for a bit. Ka-ninja'd.
YEAH! Guess what peeps? It's International Tuba Day! FO SHO YALL!
I like the concept of shapeshifting because it would be fun to play, and there is a comic book precedent for shapeshifters.
Kheldians, of course, have shapeshifting powers now, and abilities that go with each one. Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to implement.
The themes and choices involved would be a blast, I think. And the powers could be explained by almost any origin.
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I like the concept of shapeshifting...
...Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to implement.
The themes and choices involved would be a blast, I think. And the powers could be explained by almost any origin.
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Thank you my man, although the love for this thread is limited.
Cmon people! I need some lovin'!
The Devs would have to create:
New Skeletons
New Powers
New Sound Effects
Of those three the first is incredibly time-consuming and difficult. Because when you create a new skeleton you must also create:
Run Animations
Run Diagonal Forward Left Animations
Run Diagonal Forward Right Animations
Strafe Left Animations
Strafe Right Animations
Run Backwards Animations
Run Backwards Diagonal Left Animations
Run Backwards Diagonal Right Animations
Jump Start Animations
Jump Peak Animations
Jump Landing Animations
Flight-Lift-Off Animations
Fly Forward Animations
Fly Forward Diagonal Left Animations
Fly Forward Diagonal Right animations
Fly Strafe Left Animations
Fly Strafe Right Animations
Fly Backwards Animations
Fly Backwards Diagonal Left Animations
Fly Backwards Diagonal Right Animations
Fly Up Animations
Fly Down Animations
Fly Land Animations
Then add the "Switch From Relaxed to Combat Ready" Animation to each of those. And then a Combat Ready version of each of those. And then add a "Switch From Combat Ready to Releaxed" Animation for all of them, as well.
So No. Shapeshifting takes WAY too much effort for way too litle gain right now.
Also. Bumping your threads is against forum rules. Use of the Search function would -also- be useful. As you'd have learned that this is a commonly suggested set which is always responded to with some variation of the information presented above.
-Rachel-
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The Devs would have to create:
New Skeletons
New Powers
New Sound Effects
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Either you didn't read it all or I wasn't clear enough. The shapeshifts will use current costume creation details and existing powers. As for the shapeshift itself that could use a slight variation to kheldian shapeshift. And the rest of the powers could be based off of existing powers.
More the latter than the former, Pyrus, though both were involved, likely.
If you're discussing using the bodies available in game then it might almost be doable. It would simply replace your character model with the appropriate replacement model.
The issue I have here is the body sizes. Currently we have Male, Female, and Huge Male.
So all Females would turn into the Male or Huge model for the Physical Form power?
Also what kind of damage is 'Shapeshift'? Is it a new energy type? Smashing/Lethal?
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So all Females would turn into the Male or Huge model for the Physical Form power?
Also what kind of damage is 'Shapeshift'? Is it a new energy type? Smashing/Lethal?
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You would choose the type of model you would turn into when you picked the power, like normal character creation.
And the shapeshift matter is minor energy that is unresistable (look at the powers). All powers while shapeshifted have the same properties as the normal powers they correspond to.
In that case Standard power Customization rant applies... =-(
And I think that's too powerful, to have it be unresistable. I realize that it doesn't -seem- like much, but it really is a lot. That and it's hard to explain in Roleplay or from a story perspective.
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In that case Standard power Customization rant applies... =-(
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I am not a forumer so I am not aware of 'Standard Rants'. But if you mean people could pick too powerful of powers there are limitations (such as the teir 1-6 only on elemental, and powers picked for you on the others). Really the major control is over what sets you choose. Also the shapeshift matter attacks have long recharges compared to usefullness which inhibits cheapness.
You made me have a good idea however. I shall add 'Ignores buffs and enhancements' to the unresistable part.
Or maybe not because edit button ran away, just pretend it is there.
Actually the Standard Rant is this
All the powers must be designed from the beginning. You can't alter them in any way shape or form because everything is 'baked in'.
So being able to edit your 'Shape Shifted' forms isn't possible with the way the current system works. This is why all Stone Tanks or Brutes look identical in their tier 9 power, even if the character is only 4 feet tall outside of the tier 9. It completely replaces the character model with a static model.
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Actually the Standard Rant is this
All the powers must be designed from the beginning. You can't alter them in any way shape or form because everything is 'baked in'.
So being able to edit your 'Shape Shifted' forms isn't possible with the way the current system works. This is why all Stone Tanks or Brutes look identical in their tier 9 power, even if the character is only 4 feet tall outside of the tier 9. It completely replaces the character model with a static model.
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Ok then. How bout you pick all the powers from the beginning (including the +1 from autos) so that isn't an issue.
An idea, if nothing more at this point. This may have been mentioned but these are my fresh ideas. Ideas and helpful information welcome. I'll check up on this thread as much as possible. Auto power pool powers will work across all forms (yes you can have stamina). Another bit of information: You can choose a new costume for your shapeshift mode. Example: Weak looking man transforms into super strong looking brute. More info: unless a new type of IO is made, normal damage, acc, ect will apply and Pet IO's for powers.
(Hero/Villian)
Base stats:
Damage: Medium
Hp: Medium
Agressive Buff (heals/debuffs): Medium
Defensive Buff (armor sets/pools): Medium
As a shapeshifter you can transform into many things. These abilities come at a price however. Every time you shapeshift you are weakened for a short time. You can choose what you change into (within set parameters). You also have light abilities of your choosing which allow you to take some damage and give some out too, albiet not at the strength of any other archtype. Your true nature is to be shapeshifted. You must have gotten an epic archtype to level 50 before choosing this class.
Special power: Stealthy Nature: Self +Stealth +Defense(all)
Shapeshifters are naturally stealthy and hard to hit due to their translucent nature. Your stealth radius and defense are permenantly enhanced. However these abilities cannot be enhanced.
+5.00% all Defence
+4000.00% stealth radius (inactive during shapeshift)
Inherent Powers
Level 1: Matter Repulsion: Toggle Self +Jump speed/max height/ distance (same as Super Jump, different animation)
Level 10: Controlled Repulsion: Toggle Self +Jump Speed/Max Height/Distance +Defence (all) (same as Combat Jumping, different animation)
Primary (one set)
-Shapeshifting
Level 1: Matter Strike: Melee Minor DAM (Energy/Smashing) Foe Weaken
You smash a foe with some shapeshift energy. Most creatures cannot resist this kind of pain and are effectively weakened. Damage: Minor Recharge: Moderate.
Range: 7ft
Endurance: 9.21
Recharge: 8 seconds
Acitvation: 0.83
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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3.5 Energy Damage (unresistable)
3 Smashing Damage
-7.5% All speed/max speed for 10 seconds
-7.5% To-hit, Defence, Damage, Resistence for 10 seconds
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Level 2: Temporary Shapeshift: Self Shapeshift +Special
You temporarily change yourself into a more powerful form. However this form only has basic powers. Recharge: Very Long.
Endurance: 15.15
Recharge: 3 minutes 0 seconds
Acitvation: 2.59
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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+20.41 Max Hitpoints for 1 minute
Shapeshift (power pick, first 3 powers of dominator assault) for 1 minute
-15% to all stats for 10 seconds
-15% to all stats for 10 seconds after 1 minute delay
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Level 4: Stealth Mode: Toggle +Defense (all) +Stealth
You can form your shapeshift energy to hide yourself more efficiently and make yourself harder to hit. Recharge: Fast.
Endurance: 0.27/second
Recharge: 4 seconds
Acitvation: 1.21 seconds
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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+2500.00% Stealth Radius
+3.00% Defence to all (when hidden)
+1.50% Defence to all
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Level 6: Increased Affinity: Auto self +Resist(all) +Special
You have increased affinity with your shapeshifting ways. This gives you a slight resistence to all damage in all forms and lessens the effects of shapeshifting.
Endurance: 0
Recharge: 0
Acitvation: 0
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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+5.00% Resistence to all (ignores buffs and enhancements)
-2% to debuff on shapeshift debuff
-1 second duration to shapeshift debuff
+1 to all shapeshift power pick
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Level 8: Physical Form: Toggle Self Shapeshift +Special
You can transform into a brute capable of massive damage. You can use any weapons or natural offence set for offence and use invulrnerability for defence. Recharge: Slow
Endurance: 0.13/second
Recharge: 20 seconds
Acitvation: 2.59 seconds
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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Shapeshift (powerpick, first 4 of any weapon, martial arts or super strength, first 2 powers in invulnerability)
+15.61 Max Hitpoints
+25% Damage
+10% To-hit
+5.00% resistence to all (ignores buffs and enhancements)
+5.00% defence to all (ignores buffs and enhancements)
-15% to all stats for 15 seconds
-15% to all stats for 15 seconds (when toggle is ended)
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Level 12: Matter Blast: Ranged TAoE Minor Damage (Energy/Smash) Foe Weaken
You hurl a ball of matter at a group of foes, detonating and doing minor damage. The adverse effect of the matter weakens foes. Damage: Minor Recharge: Slow
Range: 80ft, 15ft radius sphere, 16 targets max
Endurance: 16.12
Recharge: 20 seconds
Acitvation: 1.23 seconds
Accuracy: x0.90
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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4 Energy damage (unresistable)
2.5 Smashing Damage
-7.5% to all speed/max speed for 15.5 seconds
-7.5% to To-hit, Damage, Resistence, and Defence for 15.5 seconds
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Level 18: Elemental Form: Toggle Self Shapeshift +Special
You transform into an elemental manifestation. You have control over a chosen element and can choose the type of abilities you weild with it. Recharge: Slow.
Endurance: 0.13/second
Recharge: 20 seconds
Acitvation: 2.59 seconds
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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Shapeshift (power pick, 3 powers (teir 1-6) in any elemantal set, 3 powers (teir 1-6) in the same element, diffent type of set.)
+15.61 Max Hitpoints
+40% Damage
+5% To-hit
+25.00% Resistence (chosen element) (ignores buffs and enhancements)
+5.00% Resistence (all others) (ignores buffs and enhancements)
-15% to all stats for 15 seconds
-15% to all stats for 15 seconds (after toggle is ended)
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Level 26: Affinity Mastery: Auto self +Resist(all) +Special
You have harnessed complete mastery over your shapeshifting powers. You recieve minor resistence in all forms as well as reducing the negative effect of shapeshifting.
Endurance: 0
Recharge: 0
Acitvation: 0
Accuracy: x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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+5.00% Resistence to all (ignores buffs and enhancements)
-4% to debuff on shapeshift debuff
-2 second duration on shapeshift debuff
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Level 32: Absorb: Self Copycat
You focus all of your eternal shapeshifting power to copy a targeted foe for a few minutes. After you revert to normal you will be drained of all endurance but there is no shapeshift penalty. Recharge: Very Long
Range: 40ft
Endurance: 15.12
Recharge: 10 minutes 0 seconds
Acitvation: 2.59
Accuracy: (autohit) x1.00
Detailed Info (based on lv 1):
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Copycat foe for 3 minutes
+0.00 Max Hitpoints (match foe)
+0.00 Max Endurance (match foe)
+0.00 Speed/Max speed (match foe)
+0.00 to Damage, To-hit, Defence and Resistence (match foe)
-100% endurance after 3 minute delay
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Secondary Powers:
-Enforcement
Consists of 3 melee powers, 3 ranged powers, and 3 defence powers
Variations:
-Earth (Stone Fist, Stone Mallet, Heavy Mallet, Hurl Boulder, Fissure, Stalagmites (offensive), Rock Armor, Stone Skin, Rooted
-Electric (Charged Brawl, Havoc Punch, Jacob's Ladder, Electric Bolts, Lightning Bolt, Ball lightning, Charged Armor, Grounded, Power Sink)
-Fiery (Scorch, Cremate, Incinerate, Flares, Fire Blast, Fire Ball, Fire Sheild, Plasma Shield, Blazing Aura)
-Chilling (Frozen Fists, Frost, Freezing Touch, Ice Bolt, Ice Blast, Freeze Ray, Frozen Armor, Chilling Embrace, Glacial Absorbtion)
-Natural (Hack, Slice, Slash (Broadsword), Snap Shot, Aimed Shot, Blazing Arrow, Temperary Invulnerabilitiy, Dull Pain, Unyeilding)
-Energized (Energy Punch, Barrage, Bone Smasher, Power Bolt, Power Blast, Power Burst, Kinetic Sheild, Dampening Sheild, Entropy Shield)
-Darkness (Shadow Punch, Smite, Siphon Life, Dark Blast, Gloom, Tenubrous Tentacles, Dark Embrace, Murky Cloud, Dark Regeneration)
Powers are randomized (not order shown)
Same elements used for Elemental Form (see above)