TimTheEnchanter

Yeah, though if you actually own a physical copy of the game, the ROM issue is kinda moot. That all predated the DRM craze when companies started whining that even if you'd already bought a CD with a song on it, you need to buy it again if you want to put it in your MP3 player.

And no companies citing EULA's, saying, "Hey, you can't do that!"

Yeah, I dunno what was originally being said about it now, but for quite I while the impression I got about it was that there was a Marvel MMO in the works. After it went live, I was going to roll Statesman and then suggest NCsoft sue them for allowing it.

Be intentionally blind. See if I care.

Even A_F has noted how ridiculous the "outdated games" argument is.

Umm..... you're kidding... right?

Umm..... you're kidding... right?

Umm..... you're kidding... right?

I think the bigger problem there isn't whether or not a game got axed. But while not being a perpetual gold mine, AFAIK CoH was the only one of the games that WAS still pulling its own weight. That makes things scary for pretty much every MMO in existence, because now we can't even base the long-term survivability of our games on the coldest known standard.

I was getting wary of new games already. Now... I have no idea what to think. What variable is there that still CAN be trusted?

This is one of those things where I have trouble grapsing the depth of what is implied. If corporations have the right to push the envelope of lying to9 the max in order to fluff their products to infinity and beyond, then do customers NOT have the right to do the opposite? If they don't, then the implications of that are quire disturbing, and suggest that we live in some sort of dictatorship. Only the dictators are companies, not politicians.

I like winter.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 4 times, shame on... umm... I think this is where the society ends.

I think the main cause for the "bile" it is no longer an issue. I hope.

Oh, I'm not saying they should even try to now. The suspicions they've already incited, coupled with NCsoft's rather odd history... it is probably best that they don't try to sugarcoat it further now.

Well I don't want to get into another big political debate about capitalism, but I'll just say that this is one of the reasons I didn't think the "vote with your wallet" argument was a fair balance between business and consumer. I think why the "evil" companies are the ones that have all the money and power, is because marketing is the driving force behind it all. Ever since the beginning of human trade, it has never been about whether or not the bean is magical (product quality), but who you can convince of it (advertising). Add mass-marketing to that kind of manipulative power and you have a rather unstoppable monster.

So in simple equations:

Great product + crap marketing = no sale.
Crap product + great marketing = gold mine.

Maybe I'm wrong about this having a detrimental impact on the economy, but I think it answers your question. It's practically the same as asking why the bad boys always get the girls. Simple. The bad boys focus more on the packaging of the product, and are always working on their sales pitch. Even after they're known to be liars, cheaters, and potential rapists, they're STILL the ones getting the girls.

At best, it would've made the most sense for both sites to announce it on the same day, or within a very short time of each other. It certainly shouldn't have taken as long as it did. I'm just going by what I've seen other companies have done under similar circumstances with joint-projects.

I've... seen things like that happen before with advertising. At least with businesses big enough to afford "forced marketing."

Doubt that would've ever happened though with Marvel being a rival comic company that is owned by one of the most powerful entertainment empires in the known universe.

Actually, not too long ago I was wondering if Disney taking over Marvel could've factored into the shutdown. Kinda like, "Well, now there's definitely no way in Hell we can compete. Might as well quit while we're ahead."

If anything is petty/insulting, it's not the messages for me (unless the "response to SaveCoH" is a lie. It's that NCsoft never officially announced the closure of CoH themselves. In fact, if you go to their website, the closest thing they have to one is their response to the rallies. While one can technically call that their announcement, the fact that it took a month of whining to even get that, is unsettling. Equally unsettling is, would they have ever announced it themselves had SaveCoH not intervened? Or were they just going to let Paragon Studios deliver the shutdown message and take all the flak, while NCsoft sat in the background hoping nobody would notice?

It has a "let's just sweep it under the rug" ambience about it, that only got botched up because of those meddling kids.

NCsoft's PR firm?

In numerous entertainment-related debates that I've followed, it ALWAYS seemed like it was Twitter where the wars started, in some cases up to a year before the flames spread to other social networking sites (which until that time had been having somewhat more civilized discussions about it). And I don't just mean petty name-calling like we've seen here, but racial/ethnic/sexual harassment all the way up to death threats.

Don't know if that's what went on in this case, but I've had a phrase that I've used any times. "Why is it always Twitter that starts up the rage machine?" Reports and sightings of these extreme fights are the reason I still do not own a Twitter account.

Technically, this would be called a realignment of company focus.

Stop giving out Megatron's beauty tips. That's just totally uncool.

It's OK, 10100000... the mean pony person doesn't mean it.

*glares* Stop scaring my robots!

That was, uhh... very... insightful.

College degree

Maybe it's a riddle. If he is the same fan then it's true that he's not another fan.