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*cedes her spot as possible presenter at HeroCon 2009 to you*
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Hi, thanks for all the nice comments on the spots.
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LOL, thanks for comparing me to a whole team of people, I'll take it as a compliment. But I did pretty much everything, except that a few friends did voices (I know my limitations :P) and a couple people helped puppeteer some characters in-game. I - wrote, directed, capped, after-effects'ed, video and sound edited, and created/played music for the whole darn thing. Granted some of the music was stuff I had written awhile ago, but I ran out of time at the end :P I did get everyone to sign release forms and all that, stating that I was the only entrant even if they helped a little. Oh well. Congrats to the finalists BTW!
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Hey Stone, welcome to CoX community. Nice job on the film, I think the best part was the voice acting, very nice.
One thing though man, Game Trailers/Toyota/MTV have imposed some pretty....mmmm...interesting rules on this contest. Not sure if they're going to show it on Spike TV or what but they're being VERY careful about copyright elements including external sounds and music not pulled directly from the game.
That may give ya problems. Which is a shame, cause it's a very nice piece.
We'll let the legal folk decide.
Todd
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Well, all the sounds (that I didn't create myself) are bought and paid for, and I did all the music myself. I've never heard of a filmmaking contest where this wasn't okay, considering in the 'real' world this is a non-issue, legally. So if they have a problem with it, then it's just ridiculous and they are just imposing arbitrary rules for no particular reason.
Also, what's this 'demo' thingy everyone's talking about? Heh. Sounds like a lotta extra work though.
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To my knowledge, part of the release for entry of this contest is that you give all rights of sounds that aren't NCSoft (aka the animation sounds) over to GT.com. So those of us who recorded our voice give the rights of these clips over to NCSoft, totally kosher.
If you bought 3rd party music/sound, or use stock clips, you can't hand over rights to those. In either case, the rights for you are to use, but the rights are not there for you to hand over.
Now, I know nothing about copyright, so I may be wrong, but this is the angle I think the powers that be are taking...
Demo editing is basically scripting the game so you don't have to be in game to capture video, or, do things that currently don't happen in the game. An example in my video is having Rulurrlu eyeballs fire the radiation blast snipe animation.
Check out this link and this list for more information. I'm sure there are other, better threads, but these two should give you the map you need.
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Thanks for the demo links - as for the other issue, it is my understanding that purchasing sound efx means that you are legally able to use and abuse them for any and all reasons including making money off of the film they are attached to (and/or handing said film over to ncsoft because they are now attached to said property in the context of that property), so long as they aren't a specifically recognizable sound or piece of music where someone would go - "Hey! that's from..."
If they think it's a no-go, then "eh" oh well. I'll merely never enter another Gametrailers contest again. -
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Hey Stone, welcome to CoX community. Nice job on the film, I think the best part was the voice acting, very nice.
One thing though man, Game Trailers/Toyota/MTV have imposed some pretty....mmmm...interesting rules on this contest. Not sure if they're going to show it on Spike TV or what but they're being VERY careful about copyright elements including external sounds and music not pulled directly from the game.
That may give ya problems. Which is a shame, cause it's a very nice piece.
We'll let the legal folk decide.
Todd
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Well, all the sounds (that I didn't create myself) are bought and paid for, and I did all the music myself. I've never heard of a filmmaking contest where this wasn't okay, considering in the 'real' world this is a non-issue, legally. So if they have a problem with it, then it's just ridiculous and they are just imposing arbitrary rules for no particular reason.
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Hiya, I'm sneaking over from the WoW machinima community
and I didn't realize there was this message board going on here until now. Hehe. I made a little CoV film years ago, and thought I'd make the 'sequel' for this contest (provided it is actually freakin' entered, it says 'compressing' - I hear that's the story with some other folks too though).
I'm glad that CoH/V has some machinima filmmakers; it's a fun engine to film in (despite the really annoying short day/night changeovers - "ok let's get the shot - NOOO THE LIGHT IS CHANGING"). But after filming in WoW for so long I enjoyed shooting in this game again. Good luck to all in the contest!
You can check out my entry (the credited version) if you like, on YouTube.
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Thanks guys, the feedback is great. If we made a series with these characters would anyone be interested in watching it?
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A film we submitted recently for a contest using the CoH/CoV engine - we didn't win, but we had a lot of fun. Tell us what you think!
"The Revenge of Dr. Mechanico"
Gametrailers
Youtube
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Stone Falcon Productions