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Quote:Absolutely, you SHOULD to have 2 "styles" into one comic/film/book. To bring in a wider audience. But again, I think this boils down to taste.Originally Posted by Heroid
((Good point. As an example, look at the James Bond movies. The Sean Connery ones were interesting because they were something new. Over the top violence and sexiness hadn't been seen in a mainstream movie before and the "hip" generation (and that's "hip", not Hippie -- big diff) of the 60's ate it up. Girls started wearing their hair like "Bond Girls" and guys started trying to be suave and cool like Bond. Things wore a bit thin though, and the new had worn off long before Roger Moore took over. His first two Bond movies played on two things: the "exploitation films" of the 70's and humor. As his Bond career rolled on, however, the Bond movies seemed dated. Up to this point, the franchise had relied almost exclusively on plot and story, with almost no character development.
Enter Timothy Dalton. The Living Daylights was a better movie in many ways than any of its predecessors. It was a combination of political intrigue, world politics, and high adventure. It just wasn't a very good Bond movie. (I still recommend it. I think it's ironic that he's teaming with the Taliban to fight the Russians.) Then came License to Kill. This was an entirely different Bond. This Bond was more than a throwback to the Sean Connery days. This Bond was ruthless in both his duty and in romance. Similarities to the Connery Bonds ended there. Dalton's Bond wasn't cool -- he was downright cold. Though the film went out of its way to provide him with "just cause", I don't think this Bond would hesitate to kill anyone he deemed neccessary to kill. It would have been a much better movie if the writers/director hadn't wimped out so much to soften him.
Still, both of the Dalton movies relied more on story/plot and had very little character growth.
Except for Golden Eye, all of Pierce Brosnan's Bond movies sucked. A rehash of the Roger Moore Bond. They had their moments, but it was a step backward from the edgier Dalton movies.
Then came Casino Royale with Daniel Craig as James Bond. For the first time we see a James Bond conflicted about his chosen profession. He is still a man who will kill without hesistation, but you get the impression that he has to detach himself a bit in order to do it. Like there's a part of his brain that is normal and human and a part that is the consumate MI-6 operative. This Bond fails. This Bond hurts. This Bond has internal conflicts that easily match the external ones. This Bond is not entirely trusted by M. In short, this Bond is not perfect. He's the most interesting Bond yet. The two Daniel Craig movies are still tautly plotted and rely heavily on plot devices and exotic locales, but they are equally about what makes James Bond tick, something that has never been explored on film before. This approach has revived the franchise and made a whole new generation of James Bond fans.
Now, if they went to the other extreme, and made a Bond movie about his growth as a human being without having the tight plot and a good story, it would suck just as bad as the World is Not Enough.
So yeah, character and story. Gotta have them both. Otherwise you have stupid soap opera (as opposed to a telenovela which is the soap opera done right and makes me wish I could speak Spanish).
And I like costumes. Even if they're not functional. But it's a matter of taste, I think. I mean, if you can lift a tank and throw it, and you want to wear red spandex, who's to say you can't?
As Nacho says, "When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants. In your room. Just for fun."
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I used Transformers (Michael Bay) vs. any Eric Schaeffer movie because...they were 2 extremes both of which I enjoyed (I didn't like Transformers 2...long story and unrelated). The former, was a GIANT ROBOTS BATTLING, SEXY CHICKS RANDOMLY PLACED, HUUUUUUUUGE EXPLOSIONS MOVIE, with very little in terms of character, plot, and story (however, I liked it, I went to go see it for the mere graphics, ended up enjoying myself...maybe due to my low expectations? I have no idea). The latter is a humorous, emotional true-life story where the dialogue is the "action" and the characters, philosophical meanings, story development, the emotional rollercoaster are so rich and so tangible, that when you are done watching the movie, you are a changed human being.
Now, there are plenty of movies with BOTH (Braveheart, Gladiator, Underworld, even Spiderman), but you can still have "good" extremes too
I haven't yet to see either of the new Bond movies (too much crap going on in my life, and I seem to never catch the Casino Royale on my TV), however, I hear the first one was an awesome surprise of potentiality and the second one fell flat on its face. :P And these are peoples' tastes/creative judgment whom I trust haha.
And Haet, of course we talk too much. We're getting our intellectual/creative discourse on
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Quote:You're right, I didn't understand what you had originally meantOriginally Posted by Xanatos
I don't agree with this. Stories which focus too much towards character developement are boring, and stories which focus to much towards the plot at the expense of the characters are boring. They are not supposed to be two different styles of writing, they are supposed to be two equal parts of every story. They are supposed to compliment one another. (OMGZ NO WAI!) To me, using one without the other amounts to something as crazy as writing a story with nothing but grammatical words. (Leaving out the Lexical ones because "that's the way we do things.") It would make no sense and move for a poor story.
Origin stories are examples of what every story should be like in comic books. The character enters the story, significant change occurs, the character exits the story. The only real changes the majority of superheros have are the moment they get their powers. After that point they basically plateau. If you are writing a story and a character is not able to undergo significant change...then let someone else be the protagonist. Let Green Lantern become a background character while "Ginger Lantern" copes with the death of his wife. I have always thought that a characters book should focus more on the characters mythos/lore than it should the character themselves.
I don't think you quite understood why I mentioned the movies. The only reason I mentioned X-Men, Watchman, and Batman Begins, was because the costumes the heroes have are all much more dark costume wise than their source material. That was the only comparison. It shows that the style of the costumes have changed. Costumes are still needed as part of the superhero mythos. "Random guy in a suit who can shoot lasers out of his eyes" is BORING. The entire concept of the costume is hard-wired to the very central theme of what superheroes ARE. They are supposed to be exaggerations of human potential. By day I am John Smith, but when I put on my mask/cape/cowl/whatever I can be ANYTHING.
Basically the sentiment of the latter part of my message was this:
Morales != Costumes.
The golden age of morales is dead, but superhero costumes have not died with them. And I completely, absolutely agree with this.
However, I still don't like non-functioning random costumes haha.
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Quote:ROFLMAO. I edited my original post. It's longer now and makes more sense.Originally Posted by Reiraku
My theory on this:
Everyone knew Clark was Superman. They just didn't say anything because they were afraid. Seriously, this guy is running around in tights with the strength to punch a planet into the sun then he comes into the office wearing glasses that he apparently doesn't need acting COMPLETELY different. It's clear he has some severe psychological problems. Are you gonna try and push that guy's buttons? No way! Just nod, play his game, and hope he doesn't turn you into a fine mist.
I clarify my position on Superman a bit
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Quote:The difference between "character" and "situation" can be best explained by story. Now if I have to go pick up my drycleaning at 4pm, but also I need to go to the bank at 4pm...that is a PROBLEM.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Which is why marvel will one day be The OC / The Hills of the comic book world. Where no-one wears costumes, and everyone looks like normal people with powers. Sometimes I want characters to STFU about their "life story / deep troubled past" and just tell...um...the CURRENT story.
If I have to go pick up my drycleaning at 4pm instead of saving my brother from his diabolical girlfriend's manipulations but he is unaware of her inane evilness and if I overtly try to do anything my lifelong familial relationship will be forever changed and I don't like change and he is my "emotional rock" since I was kid... That's a CONFLICT.
Character conflict is more interesting than a situational problem, and ultimately leads to audience self examination and self discovery. Look, I love Michael Bay films, but when I want something more than a popcorn fun film, I go watch an Eric Schaeffer movie. See the difference? Having a vehicle for a story to be told is fine, but if the character doesn't evolve, people don't care. Case and point - Superman Returns.
What you described about "life story" and all that crap? It's glorified, ripped off of cheap crappy anime-storylines. It's true. Go do some research on the basic crap structure of a crappy little anime story-arc. And that's not character developing, that's character explanation, which is DULL. (That is why MOST origin stories don't DO well and yet writers in the last 5 years or so have been able to pull them off interestingly - Batman Begins, Iron Man, etc). Look at Tropic Thunder. They explained the archetypes of those characters in quick little faux-previews, but the movement of the story came from how each of those characters CHANGED.
I will disagree. Heroes is losing viewership for a MYRIAD of reasons...but you also have to understand that Heroes is a crap knock off of other storylines, characters, etc. The FUN thing about Heroes was that, for ONCE, they were able to bring that superhero/character driven stuff to a GENERAL audience. But they didn't know what to do afterward. So they get into their origin crap without it being interesting...and plus the writing on that show was AWFUL. I was into Season 1, liked Season 2, and had to apologize to a friend of mine for making him watch the opening of Season 3 with me -_-. I mean really? That was god awful. Haven't watched it since. (And that's saying a lot since I like to watch general train wrecks of shows HA!)Quote:NBC's "Heroes" is losing viewers and retro is back in fashion again. Costumes FTW. Case in point: Watchmen & X-men & the new Batman movies. Costumes can be done well, they just need to be "darkened" up for the modern age.
Back to point, Heroes is not losing viewership because of a lack of costumes, it's losing viewership because of a lack of vision, and general cliche, crappy writing. I also argue the over-exposure of Hayden Palskcnalkscn however you spell her name. A friend of mine uses Bruce Willis as an example of this. Bruce Willis is a movie star because women like him (he has that charming thing), and men like him because he's a man's man. Kinda like Sean Connery. However, while girls love Jude Law (myself excluded), guys don't like him (he's too 'pretty,' or even feminine). Bringing this back to Hayden...apparently, neither sexes really like the girl. :P
ALSO, how DARE you qualify Watchmen OR X-men into the same category as the new Batman flicks. Apples and oranges.
Watchmen was universally panned, it did okay box office wise, but all in all? It missed its VERY high mark. And that's where you had a "good story," with well written characters and they had updated darker costumes. Execution sucked. Message was lost. It wasn't a bad movie but considering the story was one of the most celebrated comic of all time...how it failed so miserably is sad. And I can go into the Hollywood ins and outs for you if you want, but here's a simple way to look at it.
Director David Nutter said it best, "There is a difference between a good movie and a good Hollywood movie." He was referencing, specifically Paul Blart Mall Cop. Good Hollywood movie, horrible movie. Where as Batman Begins was a great Hollywood movie, AND a great movie. Watchmen was SUPPOSE to be a great movie and a great Hollywood movie (as in, quality AND brings in a crap load of cash). It didn't really do EITHER. When people ask me why I didn't really like the movie (and it wasn't just me, most of individuals of my generation didn't like it), I answer them with something very simple, "Alan Moore was tapping into the social psyche of the fear of Nuclear War, the knowledge living with Nixon in power, etc...those things mean very little to me. So for me, at 23, meh." Also, need I bring up that absolutely god awful sex scene? I love sex in movies, but I equate that to the sex scene between Neo and Trinity in Matrix II (useless and gratuitous) AND...at least Matrix's sex scene had hot people boinking. Let's be honest. But see, I know what they, in both movies, were TRYING to communicate in those sex scenes, it was a celebration of humanity, of life, of being alive...unfortunately, the message is lost for two different reasons in both movies.
Do not get me started on the molestation of my childhood (and not in a fun way) that was X-men 1, 2, and 3. I will give those films credit for ONE thing and ONE thing only...showing Hollywood morons that comic book movies CAN be profitable. They weren't good movies, but they were good HOLLYWOOD movies.
BTW, Matrix was a 'non-costume' comic book movie that was awesome (the second and third films never happened in my mind). Sure, they had a "look" but it was also relatively FUNCTIONAL...which brings me to my next point...
I didn't say I didn't like costumes as IS, I said costumes that serve no function annoy me. And no offense but yea, Golden Age is dead. The public mindset doesn't like glorified perfection anymore, they wanna see humanity at it's worst then only to see it become the finest in humanity. Which brings us full circle to the whole CHARACTER thing - it's character DEVELOPMENT, growth, and ultimately ATTACHMENT. It's the same when you make a character on this game...
The more INVOLVED you are in the creation of your character, the more time you put into it, the stories, the artwork, the development of friends...the more money you are going to keep paying NCSoft to keep playing that character. If you had to play a character forced down your throat, you probably wouldn't want to PAY to play that character unless of course...you were like the MAIN focus of an MMO...so say YOU got selected out of THOUSANDS of people to play DC's Batman...and every other person in the MMO had to treat you LIKE Batman...okay THEN MAYBE that would be the situation where that would work...
Look, my point is, as an audience member/reader, when you get to watch a character develop, you grow attached, you feel like you KNOW them, you sympathize with them, etc. It's not that people are looking for darker takes on things, they are looking for a relative realism. Golden age crap doesn't work in today's day and age not JUST because of the ridiculous 'perfection' but also just in LOGIC...in this hyper-connected world, Clark Kent getting away with being Superman by a pair of ******* glasses is stupid. It was kinda stupid back in the day, I mean, seriously, I could take a pic with my iPhone, throw that sucker up on the internet and he'd be identified within SECONDS. Spider-man got away with it due to him wearing a full mask!
Super-powered is a 'broad' term in today's market. Batman is considered a superhero, but he doesn't HAVE any superpowers other than being stupid rich and oh-damn-so-sexy (but so is every A-list celebrity, and we don't consider them superheroes). But if we're going real superpowers...the majority of those stories in which you are complaining about, I'm assuming is from the Marvel side since that's what we're talking about, and also along the lines of "X-men" or "Hulk" storylines, where they have 'developed' into being superheroes or whatever...Quote:Anyone who's trying to pull off superpowered normal people is:
1. Not creative.
2. Trying to be like "Heroes" (that ship has sailed...)
3. Doesn't realise that a lot of other people are doing the SAME DAMN THING with the SAMN DAMN STORYLINES and the SAME DAMN CHARACTER DEVELOPEMENT.
Sorry...went off on a bit of a tangent.
Look, while that sounds cliche NOW, it wasn't THEN (when that **** was new). ALSO, you can take a cliche concept and take it somewhere NEW. Anyone here see MOON? With Sam Rockwell? FREAKING AWESOME movie (I swear he better get an Oscar). The concept has been done MANY MANY times, the message was simple, however, it was the WAY the story was told that made it so good.
FYI, most stories are just ******* rip-offs of classics ANYWAY. Almost NOTHING in comics OR Hollywood (which are becoming synonymous these days) is "NEW." But just like you can line up comic artists A, B, and C (all of whom are DAMN good artists) the deciding factor on who to work with usually goes down to who tells a story BETTER? THAT's where the ART comes in. Same thing for films...you know for a fact that you could have the SAME script and you give one to Joe "OMG I WANNA DIRECT FILMS" Blow and Martin Scorsese and the latter would make something brilliant. Even if that story was something as benign as "Little Bunny Fufu."
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Quote:Make room for me in tht scarf. I never liked Buffy once I started to actually wear a bra (equivalency of a man's voice changing). I mean even when I watched it on tv as a child u knew it was kinda lame then...like Lois & Clark lane or Xena. You watched it sure but...you knew what you were in for.
As for Buffy, I never got into it. Not a vampire fan. 
I'll wear the scarf of shame now.
I know that is heresy.
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Quote:1) Sid...*hugs hugs hugs hugs*Originally Posted by sidney_b
I keep forgetting that there are graphic novels that deal with these superheroes...
I'd highly recommend the 만화 series that starts with The Color of Earth (You may find it translated as 황토빛이야기). You can tell that it's written by a guy, and the writing is a bit, well, let's just say he hammers you with the metaphors.
On the other hand, the story's cute, and the art is magnificent.
2) I can't read your random non-English text
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Quote:Within the community of artists/creators all that jazz...I will say that the GENERAL thought of DC. vs. Marvel is that DC is more situationally driven while Marvel is more character driven.Originally Posted by Heroid
((I quit buying Marvel U. books when Civil War started. Why? I thought it was stoopid. I like my escapist fare to be escapist. I didn't like seeing the Marvel U. dismantled in yet another superhero deconstructionist plotline. That's been done to death (and never better than in Watchmen, so they should quit trying and move on to something else). I read Exiles because Jeff Parker writes it and he's a super-guy, and it's also not tied in with umteen other books every month. I'm back onboard for Ultimate Spider-man (over the past decade, the best superhero book that the Big Two put out) even after the Ultimatum ********.
Overall, I like DC because the universe there is a little less paranoid and closed-in than Marvel. It's bigger and more expansive. And they've figured out how to do a big cross-over without ruining every book in the line (see the above remark about Civil War and Ultimatum). Though, Darkest Night isn't making me the happiest camper at the comic book store.
In summary, I prefer DC simply because Marvel gives me the impression that they are ashamed to be putting out "superhero" comic books -- ashamed of the costumes and the ludicrously powered characters. And yes, it is a matter of taste. Make yours Marvel, I have no problem with that. For the moment, I'll take DC.
And Invincible and Perhapanauts. ))
That is a GENERAL opinion
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Quote:Ew. I don't travel that far unless someone is paying my way...like at a convention LOL. Not to mention, I really don't KNOW that many people from CoX anymore. And those who I DO know, I see on my own. I mean, I flew across the pond to go on vacay and meet up with Xan 2 years ago, I met you down in FL, I met Chimmy down in FL, Dayn flew out and saw me and I saw him again this year at SDCC...Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
Aaah well i am freaking strapped Cali hates me too so i feel ya.
On to Hero-Con. The first year it was basicly a Meet and Greet at Dave and Busters. Last year it was an actual convention but one day but this year...
Hero Con Details
Hero Con section of the forums
So October 24th and 25th is when the Con is going on. It's a weekend deal now. Sassy and I went to the first one and it was just me last year. Saving up to try and make it again this year. San Jose is still a pretty good drive for ya though hon...
Would be cool to meet up with ya again and why not at the Con?
Not to mention, I'm sure there are individuals who would dread me being there, given that I am clearly, such a controversial personality. It's the bewbs. I'm telling you. -_- -
Quote:About what?! It's kinda like...Originally Posted by Bradders
Sorah, Sorah, Sorah, Sorah, Sorah. We need to have a serious talk. A very serious talk.
Okay let's take Marvel vs. DC. Generally speaking, I will take Marvel over DC (unless it's Batman, just because...it's flipping Batman). Why? Cause Marvel is less...cheesy to me.
It's a taste thing. Some people like it, some people don't! I don't like cheese on that level.
Do I enjoy cheesecakey pin ups? Oh hell yes. I draw that for **** sake! LOL! Bethany Cabe in a naughty santa outfit? You know it! Supergirl with seethrough panties? Hells yes!
Superman yelling, "FOR JUSTICE! HAVE AT THEE!" or something to that degree (which I know he doesn't do, people, I'm saying this for effect), I don't like. Leave me outta it haha. -
LMAO oh sure.
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Quote:....Originally Posted by Xanatos_NA
Wait so...hubby goes out & earns money to pay for the bills while housewife Sorah stays home & cooks and cleans?
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw! You guys are so traditional and cute!
Ya know, if I didn't know you were JOKING...I would slap you.
However, given the fact that I KNOW you know about my relationship, you can just STFU and stop trying to lure me into an argument, hubby!
I work. I create. It's what I do. SHUT UP! And hurry up and come visit me and my guy, yeah? We need more Xan in our life!
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Quote:Nah, financially I'm okay, all things considered. Fortunately, I have a boyfriend who is helping me out :S Which I HATE that I have to rely on that at this juncture, but I'm surviving.Originally Posted by Thors_Assassin
Jeeesh girl thats a bad day
You know if it was 2 years ago i would totally tickle your bank account with some green. Unfortunately i am in the same perdicament minus the health problems. I think it's California in general.
Btw are you going to try and make the Hero-Con? I am working on it as we speak.
It's just...Cali hates me. LOL!
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NO not all of my characters would run around nekkid. :P
However, I like "functional" outfits. I don't mind so much, Iron Man, for example, because his outfit serves a real function. Witchblade - her "outfit" serves a function (of not only being sexy!). While I like the "superhero" and "drama" of conventional comics and the like, the costumes are annoying and cheese-cake to me. -
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FML.
I have used every last dollar to my name to figure out what the heck is wrong with me health wise (I still gotta go under some tests suckfail), and in an effort to distract myself from my woes, a friend invites me to see a movie. I say, "Okay...I got a few extra bucks I can live without...let's do this." So here, I am going to go see District 9...when I pull onto Venice Blvd. from La Cienga here in Los Angeles...and a truckfull of illegals ram my car. They don't even have drivers' licenses.
Can someone tell me why the world hates me? And why I can't seem to get ahead? Lksnalkcnalkscnalkscn *stabs self* I need like a charity in my name. "Help Sorah get out of her financial blackhole caused by her puny immune system/crap luck for living in LA." All proceeds go to her bank account. stabbity stab stab stab.
I'm going to go in game and try to forget today. -
*hugs hugs hugs*
Final hugs go to:
Davroz, SK, Frosty, Laff Track, and Joe <3
Karnal is finally lvl 50 Now...she will be dormant until Xan decides to get his *** into gear and get the RP rolling.
Thank you SO much again you guys. I couldn't have done it without ya
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Quote:Totes me.Originally Posted by Xanatos_NA
Sorah is back! 08-17-2009 10:53 PM Kind of a dumb thread to make.
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Well sure, innuendo is ONE thing...openly discussing and posting pictures on a sexual taboo? :P
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ROFL! This thread may get locked...I'm just sayin'
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Quote:Ya know, it makes me happy to see people coming out and saying hello on the forumsOriginally Posted by Garielle
Hello, Virtue!
Just wanted to take a moment to say hey. While I have been a CoX player for quite some time, I only recently started becoming active in the forums. In fact, of the 90-some odd posts to my credit, over half are probably within the last week. People who have been around for quite a while and remember the old W00t Radio that used to broadcast from inside of CoH/CoV (Mostly CoH) may remember me as the sinister DJ Zod (a name which, sadly, I can no longer use in CoX).
I also recently made the move to Virtue about a month ago. It is my new "home", and pretty much the only server I play on now. I have a couple of mid-level toons on the blue side (a Emp/Mental Def and Fire/Kin Controller) but mostly play on the Red side (Level 50 Crab, and a low level MM).
If you want to send me into a complete and uncontrollable rant, good topics include Politics or CO. Seriously, don't bring up either to me unless you really want my opinion, cause I won't be able to stop myself.
Yes, I am opinionated. In fact, I admit I have very strong opinions on many matters. I, however, always respect a person's right to have their own opinions. I respect that person even more when they show that same quality to me and others.
As for my age.... Over 39 and under 99.
In the real word, I am a Network Engineer. Be warned, if you ask me how to fix Vista, I am likely to just tell you to install XP or install LINUX, depending on my mood.
Anything else... well... you'll just have to ask.
Hello Garielle (I love your name btw if that is indeed your real name, even if it's just a screenname, I love it).
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ROFLMAO.
Oh Bejesus Grey Knight. That thing is so flipping old. XD
That is ONE thing I DO NOT miss about being on the net all the time, is people showing me old *** artwork hahahahaha.
And...while I <3 me my Marvel...to be honest, one thing I have learned about myself is that I am anti-costume. That sounds ridiculous, I know...but I think where I will find my creative niche is going to be outside of the costumes. I will still pay my dues of course and I would never turn down proper work, but...I'm saying for my personal creative enjoyment
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Oh yeah baby. Bring me the whips and chains. BOW CHICKA BOW WOW! hahahahahaha
It's my fav pirate! ARRRRRRR! How are you darling?
Okay time for me to get some tea now
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Quote:You are in the valley?
last old school goth in the San Fernando Valley I'm in Hancock Park dude! I was just in the valley, playing mini-golf...well when I say "just" in the valley, I really mean like 1.5 months ago.
You were no where to be found yesterday, love. However, I got todayQuote:Oooo Oooo! I wanna help! Pick me! Pick me!
ZOMG Moggie-ness *tackle hugs* How are you darling? And no I've not made it yet. I slept for over 12 hours last night! I'm feeling SLIGHTLY better! YAY! :P I'm going to make some tea and then I'm going to hop on...I would LOOOOOVE for you to join me in my endeavors!Quote:Did you make it yet? I've got a 48 brute who can help push if you need.
JEM! Hahahahahah GG. -
Alright, firstly I'm going to say thank you to all the peeps who helped me today and kept me company!
This is in no particular order...
Davroz
JoeSchmoe
Bpphantom (I never know if I'm spelling his name right haha)
Kozz
Hypothermia
President SK
Jade
Crimson Hammer (<3)
Krypto
and of course to "Shark" Tiburon, etc, etc, long name LOL!
Anyway, I got less than 5 bars to go. And no you guys, I DON'T wanna PL (Xan baby), cause I actually feel like kicking some BUTT to 50. I figure...2 more hours tomorrow? I should get it if I get the right team assembled.
Headed to bed now...I is sick, I needs the sleep. Well actually, it's Entourage first, THEN sleep
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<3 Joe.
ZOMG My comp just reset itself on it's own volition! I'm coming back in now! SORRY! -
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I haven't read this thread...and it is breaking my heart cause I went to see Jule & Julia last night instead of District 9 (as to avoid crowds, I'm going tomorrow during the day)...but Sids, I wanna partake in your discussion damnit! /whine. That is all.