Skifer Tomme

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  1. I figure at ten days in it would be a good time to reiterate that what's being posted now is from 16 days ago, but feel free to post any suggestions that you have, I'll probably end up using them in the future.

    Day 10: Saturday July 28, 2012

    Poked around in Mids some more, decided to do a crazy build with lots of purples:
    http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...A9F17F0350F05F

    Don't really expect to have the cash to make it, but I haven't had any happiness building something without, so I figured why not?

    Finally sold that first Achilles’ Heel Proc for 40 million and the Unspeakable Terror Acc/Fear/Rech for 20 million and a few Generic IOs for .1 million to .5 million. Priced to move, not to sell for maximum.

    Bought another Luck of the Gambler +7.5 and crafted/listed it, even though the first one hasn’t sold yet, I'm listing them highish, expecting things to go eventually, mostly because I don't want to get caught-out selling something worth large for little.

    Finally had a bulk purchase go though, a 10 stack of Efficacy Adaptor recipes, though I don’t know if they’re really good ones or not. Picked up the recipes for like 31k, and the enhancement sells for 4-5 mill, so good profit, though I'm not sure how fast the turn over is, I'll just have to wait and see.

    Also hit 33, which I suppose is important information.
  2. Day 9: Friday July 27, 2012

    Only sold one Efficacy Adaptor: End Mod/Rech for 20 mill...
    No idea what I’m doing wrong that’s keeping ALL of my stuff from filling, I’m posting things for more/less than the last few trying to get things on the low, but nothing wants to work...

    Sold the Decimation for 20 mill, bought a Luck of the Gambler: +7.5% Global Recharge, crafted and listed, my current plan is to get enough cash to buy a cheap purple, craft, convert, and sell, and hopefully that treats me better than the rest of all this has so far.
    Ran some stuff, got level 32.

    (As a side note, this is just about the low-point of my experience so far, I was feeling very discouraged that nothing I seemed to try was working out, even though, in some cases, I was doing exactly what others had done.

    If I had to make a guess at what was going wrong, I'd say I wasn't making good use of Enhancement Storage in my base. Most of my market slots were filled all the time, but I wasn't building up storage of good things to sell on weekends, and I was clogging up what slots I had on items that weren't fast sellers.

    In the end, I don't think this particular blunder is going to cost me much in results, just in efficiency to get to those results.)
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
    /edit
    and one last tip-

    never pull ANYTHING before a 2xp weekend.

    You're about to see a flood of demand that will sweep away every overpriced bit of junk the market has to offer.

    I have a bet with myself on whether my field crafter will be able to empty out three base storage bins of leve 20 damages & endmods for over 1m each. =P
    Thanks for the great advice! I'll be sure to use it!

    Though I will just say, I pulled those things down two weeks ago to list them for less, and my own gut instinct would be to let things ride over a 2XP weekend, but it was still far away at that point.

    And I'm just a little bit beyond that now.
  4. Fulmens, both of those are awesome, simple things to do, and would have helped me greatly when starting out, which was something I found hard to find when I've tried to do Marketing earlier in my play times. That simple straight-forward "this is a good thing to do at the start" was hard to find for the 5-10 million price per transaction point. Please keep up the suggestions!

    Day 8: Thursday July 26, 2012

    Finally something sold!

    The Miracle went for 82 million, giving me a little more breathing room. Might be able to keep converting merits if I can keep selling MIracles! At least until I can run Purple Conversion or something like that. Though they do cost 2 Hero Merits each, which is a fair cost.

    Also bought the Stalker ATO Chance to Hide, for 4.1 million, which seems to work out as a bid-point, though it does take longer to fill, like a couple days.

    Re-listing everything I have for sale for lower, it's been a few days now, and none of them have moved, maybe if I was doing marketing across multiple characters with lots of slots I could wait for things to sell at higher, but I need turn over more than anything.

    Put some bids in for stuff, I don't feel like I'm having a lot of success with things so far, hopefully something starts to click for me.

    I decided to gamble a little and rolled 30-34 with my Hero Merit and got:
    Unspeakable Terror: Acc/Fear/Rech
    Touch of the Nictus: Acc/End/Rech
    Impervious Skin: Res/End/Rech
    Decimation: Acc/End/Rech
    Executioner’s Contract: Disorient Bonus

    All but the Disorient Bonus sell for 10-30 mill (by last 5) so craft and list them all for between 5-25 million, again hoping for quicker movement, not really sure if it was worth it though (rather than 2 Hero Merits for another Miracle).
  5. Day 7: Wednesday July 25, 2012
    Backwards progress on influence, have it ALL tied up in stuff... Stuff that isn’t moving right now...

    Ran Synapse Task Force, and like all it was a PuG, and like most it was surprisingly smooth and friendly. Since coming back again I've been consistently surprised at how good of a community is in this game. Everyone's helpful and polite, and I haven't even run into any "bad teams" like I used too. Anyways we missed out on Babbage's badge because he skipped out on us...

    Chicken...

    Hit 30 during the taskforce and I have a bunch of Hero Merits, but I'm low on influence so I'm going to stop converting Reward Merits to Hero Merits for a bit, well at least until I get some more influence to throw around.

    Bought a Miracle +Recovery with Hero Merits, crafted it and posted for 80 million. I don't even have one in my build yet, but I'm feeling SO strapped for cash I'd rather suffer with my endurance issues than put off possibly getting some more liquid to play with.

    Hopefully the morning brings something more than just Generic IOs sold (which have been working good, though low profit/slot).
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
    This is fascinating. I keep having advice for your two-week-ago self, far too late to do any good.
    Please, don't hesitate to provide that advice anyways, I'm sure this isn't the last time I'll be working a character through the Market so even if it's not usable by "current me", "future me" will most certainly take any advice I can get!

    Although as a counter-point, doing this with the time lag does mean that I really have to do this on my own knowledge (that which I've stolen from these forums of course!) rather than have my activities boosted by Forumers. Which, in the end, will give a much more accurate picture of how someone in my position could do this, provided they weren't keeping a thread going on the forums for further advice of course.

    Ah the good old observer effect.
  7. Day 6: Tuesday July 24, 2012
    Little bit of time to check in the morning and find I’ve sold the Red Fortune for 10 million. Always a nice way to start the day!
    I've also bought my first Stalker ATO, the Dam/End/Rech for 4.1 million as well as 10 Luck Charms for 31k each, wewt. More Generic IO craftage!

    Then off to work, not so wewt...

    Over lunch at work I start planning out a build, which is to say start trying to plan out a build. I've often played around in MIDs making builds, but it was always theoretical, never actually something I'm going to really try to implement, so I've found it an entirely different proposition.

    First Build Attempt: (Recharge heavy, no Purples)
    http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...B2FE0F2174EE4A

    Probably the main issue that I'm having is I don't really have a starting point on what set bonuses to aim for, I feel this is further complicated by the fact that with a Defense focused secondary I feel like I should be diversifying my survival traits, not focusing on hitting the Defense soft cap. This is a persistent issue for the next couple of days as I work out a build I'm happy with, but more on that later.

    After work I've found I'd picked up the Dam/Rech Stalker ATO, sold some generics, which pretty much empties out my inventory, gotta make more and post stuffs!

    The remainder of my night is just doing my Tip missions.
    I'm high 20s at this point, with very little liquid influence, most of what little I have is tied up trying to get more things to craft and sell.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by mauk2 View Post
    Excellent.

    I can remember, waaaaaaaay back when the game first came out, that if you had 640,000 influence you were, like, RICH.

    Things have certainly changed.
    I remember my first character not being able to afford a whole set of SOs until 32... It was just craziness!
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TopDoc View Post
    I was asking Skifer because the name Hoffnung was familiar.
    I'm on Virtue these days, though I did start on Freedom way back in the beginning. I'm not surprised if you've run across me doing PuG TFs, since I've done a surprising amount lately, and a lot more than I was expecting as a Stalker. I thought there was a fair amount of grumbling against Stalkers in general and on teams specifically, but I haven't come across that at all, and I've been on teams with upwards of 3 stalkers at a time.

    Day 5: Monday July 23, 2012
    Sold the Overwhelming Force Quad for 20 million influence and none of my bids filled. I've got a few extra Market slots, and I'm not sure what to fill them with, I've got more capital than buying recipes to sell to vendors can chew up, not to mention the low return per time investment compared to what I know is out there. So I decide to put some lowball bids of 2 million each on all the Stalker ATOs for my own use. Gotta start on that build sometime!

    Did my Hero Tip Missions and confirmed Hero Morality.

    Sold the Second Achilles’ Heel Proc for 50 million, while the first one just sits there taunting me. My liquid capital finally getting higher, at 61 million I feel I have some room to make mistakes without going backwards.

    Ran an Admiral Sutter TF, which is the weekly. We had a false start due to the leader having their difficulty all the way up. Made it through the first mission, but couldn't really progress after that, so we restarted and changed the difficulty, then the run was nice and smooth. Especially with that nice big chunk of XP at the end.

    Had a few recipes hanging around from doing stuff, so I crafted them up. In the end I had an Efficacy Adaptor EndMod/Rech 40, Luck of the Gambler Def/Rech 26, Red Fortune Def 50, and Scirocco’s Dervish Acc/Dam/End 41, all free of charge! Listed them on the Market for various prices, around the last 5, but generally on the higher side. Though to do this I had to cancel my Stalker ATO bids.

    Did Signature Story Arc 1.1, which was super easy to stealth through the missions and blow up bosses from stealth, which is a nice departure from what I've been used too. My poor Warshade has a heck of a time doing solo content at this level. Got my Hero Merit, and a Scirocco’s Dervish Dam/Rech 27, bough the salvage for it for 1.5 mill, listed for 10.1 mill, see how well that does!

    Collected some more proceeds from Generic Sales, and re-upped 2 of the cancelled bids for Stalker ATOs at 4.1 million, a little better than the 2 mill earlier, since I've got a little more cash now. Now I need more slots, which is a turn around from earlier today. The market sure is fickle!

    Been using the Salvage I have in my base as a buffer for not paying “Buy it NAO!” prices on salvage, though I am replacing it with proceeds from this character. Of course that does mean I'm tieing up Market Slots with lowish bids on salvage, may have to rethink that strategy, or figure something else out, but with just one character my options are limited.

    Big day, got lots done today, and I'm sitting at 64 million in just liquid influence.
  10. Day 4: Sunday July 22, 2012
    All my level 25 Generic IOs sold, still not my proc, no recipes filled... Gonna build some more Generic IOs to sell as it’s the weekend and people apparently buy stuff on the weekend, or so I've heard on the Marketing forums before.

    Played a bunch, did my first 5 Hero Tips, Positron 1, got to level 22, yay for SOs! That is of course except if you've been running lowbie trials, then you're loaded on SOs.

    Slotted some Generic IOs, keeping AS free for ATO set, crafted/sold lots of Generic IOs, mostly for the half-million price point.
    Crafted some more Generics, only stuff I had the Salvage for, put some bids on salvage I needed, and listed what I had to sell, including an Overwhelming Force: End/Rech from the Summer event.

    Later in the day I come back to check and Overwhelming Force sold for 10 million, probably bought up by Organica on a lowball bid (did you see how many she was bidding on?), and most of my Generic IOs. And just to make clear, most of those were created with just the salvage I was getting from drops, I'd pick the common ones, Accuracy, Damage, Endurance Reduction, Recharge Reduction, and Endurance Modification, craft as many as I could, then craft whatever else I could, and just list them, and they moved fast, usually within the hour.

    Got a second Achilles’ Heel Resistance Debuff, which I wasn't so excited about since the first one is still holding a market slot. I craft it anyways, hoping that they'll move eventually.

    Ran the Summer Event again, Got the Overwhelming Force Quad, put it up for 10 mill, sold some more Common IOs. I know that I'm putting the Overwhelming Force up for really cheap, but I'm more interested in building up some capital to get things going than tieing up slots waiting for a good price.

    Overall, lots of stuff done, Sundays are usually when I have a fair amount of time to get things done.
  11. Happy to see my little thread drawing attention.

    Day 3: Saturday July 21, 2012
    Vendored recipes I purchased overnight
    Played a bunch, sold a bunch of recipes, didn’t sell my Proc yet, crafted a bunch of 25 IOs to sell on the market, placed some lowball bids on Efficacy Adaptor recipes with some hope, need some more liquid cash to get something more going.

    And this would be the biggest regret about the way that I've done things, since I working about 2 weeks behind on posting, I'm not sure if what level I'm at, or really what influence level I'm at, though I'm quite sure that it wasn't very high at this point. I know that most, if not all, of the 2-3 million influence I have at this point is tied up in postings, with that balance between doing low-cost high slot and high-cost low slot dealings. This is where a more seasoned marketeer would be able to jump into a good intermediate spot and make some faster cash, but with what little knowledge I have I'm kinda groping around at what Organica's done, and what I know kinda works.

    The one thing I really know is that the faster you get to higher level, the better the opportunities can be, and so I really throw myself into leveling while getting what influence I can.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organica View Post
    I'll be interested to see what you manage. ^_^

    For me, the fact that I'm documenting everything I do is one of the ways I motivate myself to keep working on the same project. Otherwise I have lots of projects and I don't always stay focused on the same ones for even a few days in a row. So I hope to see you keep at it!

    Although I guess if you're posting 2 weeks after the fact, you've already kept at it for 2 weeks, hehe.
    Keeping a log is pretty much to keep me on track and focused, and it's done wonders so far, I've been focused to the point of ignoring any other gaming, which I don't exactly love, but since it's only for a short time, I'm ok with it. And yes, I'm still at it 2 weeks in (18 days to be exact, or 74 hours), and a lot farther than I though I'd be, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.

    Day 2: Friday July 20, 2012
    So this is the boring part, buy stuff and sell it, buy for REALLY low, though the breadth of things that can be sold is quite the variety. This time I decide on 35-45 Generic Recipes and combining Large Yellows into Large Purples, which quickly gets me to two million influence.

    I refresh my bids, and head off for some leveling!

    I run two Death From Below to get all the badges and hit level 11. Gotta love how they stream-line the lower levels, if you want to go that way.

    I'm hoping to hit those ever so lucrative ITFs later in leveling, so I do my Midnighter's Arc right away and get an Achilles' Heel: Chance for Resistance Debuff, score! Crafted and listed for 45 mill, since that's the max I could list it for with my funds, and since it was going for 40-50 mill in the last 5.

    Finished up my night by running through the Hollows to Frostfire, at level 13, who I promptly take out in moments, like in the first rotation of powers. Man Ver hits like a truck!

    Rolling back to Atlas to check the market I alt-tab to write down my nights work, then promptly load back into the hollows when I click on the CoH window... Been a LONG time since I've done that but it brings back so many memories of the old days, used to always have that happen to my friends.

    All and all a productive night and really having fun with my little stalker.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EmperorSteele View Post
    ... you've been playing for 7 years but never posted on the forums? o_O (though I guess "doesn't post to the forums" would be a majority of users...)
    Ya..... It's complicated...

    Suffice it to say that this isn't my first account, and though I did post on my older account, it wasn't a lot, I'm usually a lurker on forums rather than a poster. Earlier this year when I decided to pick up CoH again I choose to start fresh, and keep my older account as Premium, since that lets me do certain things more easily, like ticket farming, self-PLing (not that I've done much of that, been too involved in actually playing ), inviting my own alts to my SG, and stuff like that.

    Also, I haven't been playing for 7 years straight, that's just when I started, I have about 3 years worth of subscribed time, which has been spread out over those 7 years of time.

    Thanks for the well-wishes!
  14. Twice now Organica has shown us how she (assumption on gender) can take a fresh newbie character and make them awesome in just 30 days. The first thread inspired me, though I didn't do anything with it at the time, maybe just a tiny amount of marketing that didn't lead anywhere. Then when the second thread came around I *knew* I had to take this opportunity to try it for myself.

    Now my thread isn't going to be as pretty, with all the nice screen shots, but I think it's a good thing to have around since I'm probably right in the target group that Organica was writing both of those threads for.

    A little about myself in CoH:
    -I'm a long time player, since Issue 2 (I remember the Rularuu Invasion from some of the first times I played CoH)
    -I've had a few 50s in my time, probably more than 5 but less than 10
    -I have less than 2 billion Influence across ALL of my characters, and most (99%) of it has come from the game systems, or selling drops on the market at what the "last 5" were going for (ie not crafting a purple, but throwing the recipe on the market)
    -I don't have an IOed character to speak of, most of my characters are pre-IO 50s or have "planned builds" that are full of SOs right now
    -I have a personal SG full of common salvage and that's it, not a treasure trove of rare salvage to sell off

    What I really want out of this is to see what I can do in 30 days with one character, with no influence transfers, no additional merit usage on other characters, or usage of marketing slots. So pretty much my character will be on her own, minus usage of whatever is currently in my base, and I'll be playing this character exclusively. (Or trying too, well not transferring things from other characters I may play at least. )

    Also I'm NOT comfortable enough with the market to actually post what I'm doing when I'm doing it, so there's going to be about a 2 week delay between what I post and when it happened.

    So I decided to do this challenge with a Stalker named Verlassenen Hoffnung
    , my forlorn hope of being awesome in 30 days!


    Day 1: Thursday July 19, 2012

    Didn't have a lot of time to play, more specifically, only had about an hour, but I was really pumped about Organica doing another one of these things and just "Had to start!" That's usually how I do things in CoH, get an idea, get real excited, and just "start doing it!" only to have things peter out later on as the initial excitement wears off or the mid-grind really starts to wear. (Or of course a NEW! shiny plan presents itself )
    So I rolled up my Stalker, skipped the tutorial, and promptly remember that I needed that tutorial for some bank-roll... Doh!
    Go to Ms. Liberty and save off my costume, delete my stalker and start again.
    Finish the tutorial and drop my Large Green on the market for some instant large green. 200k to be exact. Place a bunch of low bids on level 50 Generic IOs and log off.
    Literally had no real time to play, so no time to start up.